Thread: Trump: Nation Has Own Problems Without Taking In Syrian Refugees

Wednesday, September 9, 2015 11:04 PM

By: Greg Richter

The United States has enough problems of its own without taking in some of the refugees fleeing war-torn Syria, GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump said Wednesday, reversing his position from a day earlier.

Appearing on Fox News Channel's "Hannity," Trump said there is a real threat that Islamic State (ISIS) terrorists could be mixed in with legitimate refugees.

"Look, from a humanitarian standpoint, I'd love to help. But we have our own problems," Trump said.

"If you look at a lot of the people I've been watching on television, it's men. There aren't that many women relatively speaking," he said. "It's a horrible thing in terms of humanity."

Trump said wealthy Persian Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain should be pitching in, but haven't taken any refugees.

A day earlier, Trump had suggested the United States should take some of the refugees who currently are flooding Europe.

"Something has to be done," Trump said on Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor" on Tuesday. "It's an unbelievable humanitarian problem."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/dona.../09/id/681098/

Sigh of relief. Trump is such a nice guy he feels sorry for the "humanitarian" problem, and reacts to that, but when you realize that a lot of this is staged for TV, I mean look at the shoes, they're brand new, clean, with no signs of wear and tear. So something is very wrong with the information and images we're getting, which means we can't trust any of it, so I'm glad so glad he took awhile to watch more closely and observed that yes, it's almost all men (in clean new shoes, expensive looking sneakers, showing no signs of wear and tear from a long walking journey). And no, we can't help them, nor should we. They need to go back home or go to a country like Saudi or Qatar or wherever their Muslim and/or Arab brothers are. Not Europe, Not South America, and oh no not the United States.

Thank you for posting this article, Jean! Spread it far and wide so folks everywhere get the correction.

There are 7 billion people in the World and most of them would like to live here. How do the faux humanitarians propose we deal with that? Take all of them in? They all have a sad story to tell. Do we forsake our own families our own people by unlimited immigration?

When the Titanic sank those who made it onto life boats waited far from the sinking ship. They sat and watched and heard the cries of dying people in the water. The survivors were not cruel and indifferent. Many cried in sorrow. But they all knew that if they ventured into the mass of people in the water to take on a few more people there would be hysterical panic by everyone trying to get on to the boats and the boats would be overwhelmed and sink and everyone would die. Compassion can not be limitless yet that is exactly what the open borders amnesty advocates are proposing.

We can not have limitless uncontrolled mass migration into the USA. And if we give amnesty to those who are here illegally how can we justify refusing legal residence to everyone else in the world? Amnesty is a rejection of the very concept of national sovereignty. There must be strictly enforced limitations of foreigners entering our country, and we must be stingy with the numbers of them, or we will all drown.

Originally Posted by csarbww

There are 7 billion people in the World and most of them would like to live here. How do the faux humanitarians propose we deal with that? Take all of them in? They all have a sad story to tell. Do we forsake our own families our own people by unlimited immigration?

When the Titanic sank those who made it onto life boats waited far from the sinking ship. They sat and watched and heard the cries of dying people in the water. The survivors were not cruel and indifferent. Many cried in sorrow. But they all knew that if they ventured into the mass of people in the water to take on a few more people there would be hysterical panic by everyone trying to get on to the boats and the boats would be overwhelmed and sink and everyone would die. Compassion can not be limitless yet that is exactly what the open borders amnesty advocates are proposing.

We can not have limitless uncontrolled mass migration into the USA. And if we give amnesty to those who are here illegally how can we justify refusing legal residence to everyone else in the world? Amnesty is a rejection of the very concept of national sovereignty. There must be strictly enforced limitations of foreigners entering our country, and we must be stingy with the numbers of them, or we will all drown.

Exactly. And it's not just amnesty, it's all of it. The refugee and asylum programs, green card and visa programs, guest worker permits, and illegal immigration. It's all of it. It all has to stop for at least 10 years, maybe 20, until our poor overburdened nation can reset, restore and resume in the manner in which it was intended, which is not as an unemployed, debt ridden, low wage Banana Republic printing money faster than the government can waste it on foreigners.

I have sympathy for these refugees from war torn countries but I don't think the solution is to send everyone to another country. For one thing, they won't all fit. I'd love to ask these refugees what the rest of the world can do to help make their home countries a safe place to live.

You understand that the reason they are fleeing to Europe is because other Muslim countries refuse to let them in.

Originally Posted by artclam

I have sympathy for these refugees from war torn countries but I don't think the solution is to send everyone to another country. For one thing, they won't all fit. I'd love to ask these refugees what the rest of the world can do to help make their home countries a safe place to live.

These really aren't "war torn" countries. This isn't a situation where Hitler is advancing into Syria or Libya. These are countries where their religious fanaticism was used to try to over-throw their governments. It ends when they stop.

You're such a good person, artclam. You really are. But there's nothing the world can do to make their countries nicer places to live, that's something the people of these countries have to figure out on their own.

Tom Tancredo: Trump 'Entirely' Wrong on Taking In Syrian Refugees

(AP) Tom Tancredo
By Bill Donohue | Wednesday, 09 Sep 2015 05:08





Donald Trump is dead wrong saying the United States may need to shelter some of the Middle Eastern refugees now pouring into Europe, former Rep. Tom Tancredo tellsNewsmax TV.

"I disagree with him completely and entirely, and not only do we not have to take anybody in, the Europeans should not be doing it, either," Tancredo, a Colorado Republican, said Wednesday on "The Steve Malzberg Show."

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"Why is no one asking the most pertinent question of all here, and that is, where the hell are the Saudis? Where are all of the other Muslim countries, [which are] much closer … than Europe to these 'refugees?'
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"This is the Islamization of Europe. They're doing this with the approval in many, many cases of ISIS. Many of the people coming are actually terrorists."

On Fox News’ "The O’Reilly Factor," Trump, the billionaire developer and front-runner for 2016 GOP presidential nomination, was asked if the U.S. should harbor some refugees fleeing the Middle East and North Africa.

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what’s happening, you have to … It’s a living in hell in Syria. There’s no question about it. They’re living in hell, and something has to be done," Trump said.

Tancredo — who ran for president in 2008 and is author of "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America's Border and Security," published by Cumberland House — said Trump’s stance could sting him with voters.

"I don't know whether he's been told that he's got to soften his position on immigration, but … he has gotten where he is today with a firm position," Tancredo said.

http://www.alipac.us/f12/trump-natio...fugees-323082/

I have a real problem with Trump's inability to remain consistent in his message. He too frequently says something one day and the very next day he is saying something different. The man needs to think more before he speaks (IMO).

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politi...rian-refugees/

Donald Trump changes tone on Syrian refugees

By Eugene Scott and Sara Murray, CNN

Updated 11:24 AM ET, Thu September 10, 2015

Washington (CNN)A day after saying the U.S. should accept more Syrian refugees, Donald Trump seemed to back track on the idea Wednesday.

Following Trump's appearance at a Capitol Hill rally criticizing the Iran nuclear agreement, CNN asked him if the U.S. should welcome refugees fleeing a war-torn Syria.

But Trump suggested that the U.S. should focus on other issues, including our finances.

"We have our own problems, we have very big problems between our own borders and our infrastructure and everything else," Trump said. "We have some very big problems. We have to solve our problems and we'd better do it fast. We owe 19 trillion dollars."

Trump then said the U.S. response should be limited and that other countries should step up more.

"I think we should help, but I think we should be very careful because frankly, we have very big problems. We're not gonna have a country if we don't start getting smart," he said. "We cannot help everybody through the world. Europe should help. Russian should help. China, they're not doing anything. The Gulf states are doing nothing. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, any of the gulf states, they're doing nothing. They should all help. And then maybe we could do something. But we have big problems to solve and we better solve them fast."

Donald Trump previously told Fox News that the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the "unbelievable humanitarian problem."

Trump has made anti-immigration rhetoric a cornerstone of his campaign, but the Republican presidential candidate said Tuesday evening that though the migrants could pose a security risk -- floating the idea that there may be individuals with ties to Islamic militants -- he supported allowing some of them into America.

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to," Trump said to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.

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