Trump says he could keep shutdown going for months or years

By Kevin Liptak, CNN
Updated 4:26 PM ET, Fri January 4, 2019

Washington (CNN)A meeting Friday between President Donald Trump and newly powerful Democrats ended in varied descriptions of what transpired, with Republicans expressing fresh optimism a deal could be struck and their political opponents offering drearier views of a compromise.

Neither side emerged detailing an immediate breakthrough that could end the continued stalemate that has allowed a partial government shutdown to wear on for two weeks. And despite his rosier outlook, Trump conceded the impasse could reach an historic length, a timeline first relayed by the Senate's top Democrat.

Trump "said he'd keep the government closed for a very long period of time -- months or even years," according to Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, who spoke to reporters in the White House driveway.

"Absolutely I said that," Trump affirmed from the Rose Garden shortly afterward. "I don't think it will, but I'm prepared."

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Later, two people familiar with the meeting said Trump even mentioned extending the standoff "to the election" and refused to back off his demand for $5.6 billion in funding for a border wall. He opened the talks by launching into a 15-minute salvo that also included griping at the House speaker for recent comments from Democratic lawmakers raising the specter of impeachment.

Despite those disagreements, Trump announced that further discussions would occur over the weekend led by staff members. And he sought to highlight areas, like increasing port capacity, where he was in agreement with Democrats.

"We had a very, very productive meeting and I think we've come a long way," Trump said, adding later:

"We're all on the same path in terms of wanting to get government open."

Trump said he designated a group of aides, including Vice President Mike Pence, Homeland Security secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, to participate in the weekend discussions, which he described as meant to "determine what we're going to do about the border."

It's that question which still divides the White House and congressional Democrats, who have vowed to block any attempts to secure new funding for a border wall.

Both sides remained firm in their positions on Friday following the two-hour meeting in the White House Situation Room.

"We won't be opening until it's solved," Trump said of the debate over building the wall. "It's a problem of national security. It's a problem of terrorists."

"We're not doing it in pieces," he went on. "We won't be doing it in drips and drabs."

Democrats were equally dug in, saying the matter of a border barrier should only be brought up once the government has reopened.

"We cannot resolve this until we open up government, and we made that very clear to the President," Pelosi said after the White House meeting.

She described the session as "a lengthy and sometimes contentious conversation" but indicated there was some progress made.

"How do you define progress in a meeting?" she asked.

"When you have a better understanding of each other's position? When you eliminate some possibilities? If that's the judgment, we made some progress."

Senators are due back in the Capitol next week after the chamber adjourned Friday morning, meaning the shutdown will likely extend into a third week. Roughly 800,000 federal workers are going without pay and several federal systems are closed, including the Smithsonian museums and some national parks.

Trump offered little solace to federal workers affected by the shutdown in his remarks on Friday, a group he's said little about since nine federal agencies saw their funding lapse last month. Some workers have said they are unsure of how they will pay for rent or living expenses without a regular paycheck.

"The safety net will be a strong border because we're going to be safe," Trump said when questioned about those federal workers' plight. "I really believe that they agree with what we're doing."

Asked if he thought landlords would be lenient on federal employees whose paychecks are affected by the shutdown, Trump said he did.

"I would encourage them to be nice and easy," he said.

The midday meeting between Trump and congressional leaders in the White House Situation Room was a repeat affair after a similar session on Wednesday devolved into bickering and finger-pointing. On Friday, Trump found himself facing Pelosi a day after she was elevated to speaker, along Schumer, both of whom said they will not bend in opposing Trump's demand for border wall funding.

Earlier in the day, the President sent a list of demands to Capitol Hill, releasing publicly a letter sent to members of Congress outlining the reasons he continues to seek a border wall. He said he was taking the step because Democratic lawmakers refused to listen the presentation during Wednesday's meeting at the White House.

"Absolutely critical to border security and national security is a wall or a physical barrier that prevents entry in the first place," Trump wrote.

The letter was intended to perpetuate the White House's view of the border issue as a national security emergency -- one of the reasons that meetings with lawmakers this week were convened in the highly secure Situation Room, which has been used in the past to oversee classified raids or military campaigns.

White House aides also hoped the classified setting -- where members of the media are not typically allowed -- would avoid an on-camera setting like Trump held with Pelosi and Schumer in early December, when the Democrats essentially goaded the President into saying he would own any government shutdown.

Trump has largely abandoned that vow, blaming the state of affairs on a myriad of factors: Schumer, Pelosi's speakership prospects and the 2020 election.

Asked Friday whether he was still proud to claim ownership of the shutdown, Trump offered an inexact response.

"I'm very proud of doing what I'm doing. I don't call it a shutdown. I call it doing what you have to do," he said.

In the Rose Garden, Trump was joined by GOP congressional leaders, his vice president, and the Homeland Security secretary, but not McConnell, who returned to Capitol Hill after the meeting.

A McConnell aide later told CNN the Senate Majority Leader left the White House after the meeting unaware of the press availability that was to follow. Both he and the Senate's No. 2 Republican, Sen. John Thune, would have attended if asked, the aide said.

Trump was asked directly in his news conference about McConnell's absence, and responded he wasn't in the Rose Garden "because he's running the Senate."

A tossed letter, an angry interruption and a closed government: few signs a shutdown deal is near

Democrats believe they have effectively jammed McConnell with the plan the new Democratic House passed Thursday night -- a bill to reopen the government with no additional wall funding -- and that rank-and-file GOP senators will start to feel pressure and begin sending word that it's time to buck the President and put the Democratic proposals on the floor.

Republican Sens. Cory Gardner of Colorado and Susan Collins of Maine -- both up for re-election in 2020 -- have indicated publicly the shutdown should end before a deal is reached on a wall, signs Democrats take as evidence their strategy is working.

Still, senior Republican aides have noted the decision by Collins and Gardner is hardly reflective of where the broader conference stands. Most Republicans have backed the President's demands for at least $5 billion in funding for the border wall, which was his central campaign promise.

And McConnell has insisted he will not bring for a vote any measure that Trump will not sign. The White House issued a veto threat late Thursday for the package of bills passed by the House.

"The package presented by the House's new Democrat leaders yesterday can only be seen as a time-wasting act of political posturing," McConnell said on Friday. "It does not carry the support of the President. In fact, the administration explicitly indicated yesterday the President would actually veto it. And it cannot earn the support of 60 of my colleagues here in the Senate."

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Most of the President's allies have encouraged him to remain firm in his demands for border wall funding, even as the prospects of a bill emerging from Capitol Hill with the funds included grew slim with the swearing-in of a new Democratic House.

Even inside the West Wing, the President's senior aides have not counseled him to accept Democratic proposals that would end the shutdown, believing that having the border security fight in the headlines is more preferable than the special counsel's Russia investigation or Michael Cohen's prison sentence.

On Fox News, the President's favorite cable channel, top host Sean Hannity offered a suggestion on Thursday of pairing border wall funding with protections for young undocumented immigrants brought to the US by their parents, recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (or DACA) program. It's the same plan Sen. Lindsey Graham floated to the President over lunch last weekend, though the President was noncommittal.

On Friday, Trump said the topic arose in his meeting, but said he'd rather confront the issue separate from the border wall matter.

"We'll discuss it at another time. But there are a lot of great things that can happen with DACA if the Democrats wanted to do that," Trump said.

Republican and Democratic aides both said such a solution is not currently on the table in negotiations.

Democrats have made clear they don't trust the White House or Trump to follow through in any broader deal.