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    Trump says he's thinking about pulling ICE from California

    Trump says he's thinking about pulling ICE from California

    Trump says he's thinking about pulling ICE from California

    By Kevin Liptak and Tal Kopan, CNN
    Updated 1:51 PM ET, Thu February 22, 2018

    Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump declared on Thursday he was considering withdrawing Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from California as punishment for what he claimed was a "lousy management job" in patrolling illegal immigration.

    "You know what, I'm thinking about doing it," Trump said at a roundtable with state and local officials to address ideas to stop gun violence in the wake of the Parkland school massacre. His comments came after he decried the state of law enforcement in the Golden State.

    "We're getting no help from the state of California. Frankly, if I pulled our people from California, you would have a crime nest like you've never seen in California. All I'd have to do is say 'ICE, Border Patrol, leave California alone,'" he said during a listening session at the White House.

    "You would see crime like nobody has ever seen crime in this country. And yet we get no help from the state of California. They are doing a lousy management job," he went on to say. "They have the highest taxes in the nation. And they don't know what's happening out there. Frankly it's a disgrace."

    It was not clear how serious Trump was about the proposal. His administration has stepped up enforcement of immigration laws in California as an effort to pressure sanctuary cities, which is a term for local jurisdictions who have some policy of non-cooperation or coordination with federal immigration authorities.

    California is also a key border for the United States, making it unlike Border Patrol or Customs and Border Protection could pull out of the state.

    The San Ysidro border crossing is the busiest land port of entry in the entire Western Hemisphere, let alone the United States, and the California border is a major focus of preventing drug smuggling into the US.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Tom Homan said on Fox News earlier this year that California's policies would only increase ICE's presence.

    "There's no sanctuary from federal law enforcement. As a matter of fact, we're in the process now, I'm going to significantly increase our enforcement presence in California. We're already doing it," he said.

    The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Trump's statement.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/polit...ump/index.html
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    Don't do it, Trump! We've got Governor Brown right where we want him. Let's continue with the pressure on California until he squeals in surrender and demands a repeal of their stupid state sanctuary law.

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    There is more to the article, perhaps they updated it but here it is:

    It was not clear how serious Trump was about the proposal. His administration has stepped up enforcement of immigration laws in California as an effort to pressure sanctuary cities, which is a term for local jurisdictions who have some policy of non-cooperation or coordination with federal immigration authorities.

    California is also a key border for the United States, making it unlike Border Patrol or Customs and Border Protection could pull out of the state.

    The San Ysidro border crossing is the busiest land port of entry in the entire Western Hemisphere, let alone the United States, and the California border is a major focus of preventing drug smuggling into the US.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Tom Homan said on Fox News earlier this year that California's policies would only increase ICE's presence.

    "There's no sanctuary from federal law enforcement. As a matter of fact, we're in the process now, I'm going to significantly increase our enforcement presence in California. We're already doing it," he said.

    The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Trump's statement.
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    Very misleading headline from CNN, but then that is what they do...
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    Yes Jean, they did update it. I edited and posted the updated article. I posted it so that if you watched the session, you would see that CNN's coverage of the statements were so dishonest. I also thought it was great that the President used the air-time on school safety to reach Californians about the public safety issue of sanctuary policies for illegal aliens. We went on and on about it.

    Thank you Jean for letting me know about the update to the article. I would have missed the update, but for you.

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    Several questions on it now at White House Briefing. More air-time for our issue of sanctuary states and cities.
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    Understandably he probably is very frustrated with California esp since we're a so-called 'sanctuary state.' How does that make us safer? Helps illegal alien criminals but not the citizens. This can't end well imo.
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    Yeah, if you watched the whole session on the school safety issue and how Trump wove the California sanctuary city and state situation in to get the issue of illegal immigration and the impact on public safety worldwide coverage, it was a double-down on California. He wove in MS-13 Gangs as well earlier in the session. So both sanctuary policies in states and cities as well as MS-13 Gangs got big coverage today, live and in real time. It was very clear that Trump isn't going to take this without serious consequences for California. Trump is going to turn California red again by 2020. Then you dear people in California can revive your Proposition 187.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Understandably he probably is very frustrated with California esp since we're a so-called 'sanctuary state.' How does that make us safer? Helps illegal alien criminals but not the citizens. This can't end well imo.
    Sadly, it's like too many similar situations. Obama let Isis get foothold, and like the saying goes, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." If the feds stop for a month, it will take a year to gain back the control they now have.

    The best solution is to put Jerry Brown and all of his cohorts in jail for aiding and sheltering illegals.

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    Very wishful thinking Judy. This state will never turn red again. It will remain a one-party state unfortunately which is also part of the reason we have such high taxes. Prop 187 was our last chance and that was when most states didn't even think much about illegal immigration because they weren't yet affected. We tried but as usual a judge stopped it from being enforced plus by then we had a democrat governor instead of Pete Wilson. Appreciate your enthusiasm and optimism but it would take a miracle to turn things back again here. I'm here mainly for rest of the country.
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