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    Two weeks later, no sign of 'Remain in Mexico' policy in action at San Ysidro Port of Entry

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    More than two weeks after the Trump administration announced a new policy that would force asylum seekers to wait in Mexico for their turns in U.S. immigration court, there is no sign yet at the San Ysidro Port of Entry that it has been implemented.

    The Department of Homeland Security said on Dec. 20 that the change was “effective immediately,” but advocacy groups along the border continue to receive large numbers of migrant families who have been released from immigration custody into the U.S. Asylum seekers continue to move through San Ysidro, the busiest port on the southwest border for asylum claims, according to a recent study.


    Katie Waldman, DHS spokeswoman, said that the new policy will be implemented.


    “We are in the process of beginning implementation,” Waldman said. “We want to ensure an orderly, safe, and efficient process.”


    Under the policy, asylum seekers who come either to ports of entry or cross the border illegally would go through preliminary processing before heading back across the border to Mexico with documents showing their next court hearing dates in the U.S.

    Hundreds of mostly Central American migrants fleeing violence or poverty in their home countries have gathered at the border and are waiting in Tijuana to apply for asylum in the U.S.
    Mexico announced that it had decided to temporarily allow asylum seekers waiting for U.S. immigration court hearings to reenter the country and that it would provide humanitarian visas to allow asylum seekers to work while they wait. However, some top Mexican officials quickly said that was not possible.

    The head of Mexico’s National Institute of Migration said that Mexico would have to change its laws in order to comply with such a policy.


    Since then, it has been unclear what will happen if and when the U.S. begins to implement the policy.


    “It is not an agreement, but a unilateral measure by the U.S. government and, as such, the decision is entirely a domestic issue,” said a spokeswoman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington when asked about the delayed implementation. “As is its sovereign right, the government of Mexico will take appropriate measures in accordance with our legal framework.”


    She said Mexican officials would be asking the U.S. for more information about what it plans to do.

    Besides the confusion in Mexico, the proposed change also brought a slew of logistical questions from immigration attorneys, advocates and others who work closely with the U.S. immigration system.

    How would the migrants get from the border to immigration court? Would immigration courts along the border be responsible for hearing all of the new asylum cases? How would attorneys meet with their clients before their hearings, or how would migrants even find attorneys to take their cases?


    Answers to these questions are still unknown.

    For Everard Meade, director of the Trans-Border Institute at the University of San Diego, the delayed rollout is not entirely surprising.

    “It’s on pattern with almost everything they’ve tried to do with immigration in the past two years,” Meade said. “They front-load policies that sound very harsh and decisive but also sound like they’re simple when in fact implementation is complicated and much more constrained by the law.”


    Peter Nunez, a former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of California who supports lower levels of immigration, said he was not surprised by all the confusion or the fact that the new policy had not been implemented.


    “I didn’t have any expectations, bottom line,” Nunez said. “It’s so frustrating that any attempt to do anything rational is thwarted either in Congress or the courts or both.”


    Nunez said he believes that asylum seekers should be required to ask for protection in the first country they enter that is not their own.


    Many expect immigrant advocates to challenge the “Remain in Mexico” policy in court if and when it is implemented.


    For Pedro Rios, director of the American Friends Service Committee's U.S./Mexico Border Program, the lack of implementation is a good thing. He worries about migrants’ safety if they’re forced to wait months or even years in Mexico and gave as an example the two Honduran teens who were recently killed in Tijuana.


    “It’s somewhat of a relief that Mexico hasn’t fully bought into the idea that they should be the waiting country for migrants who are having their asylum claims processed in the U.S.,” Rios said.


    Asylum seekers in Tijuana — which has long had a backlog of people waiting to come into the U.S. for processing — were initially stunned by the Trump administration’s announcement. As time has passed without any sign of change, those huddled around a tent in a corner of the Chaparral Plaza have continued to step forward eagerly when their names are called to apply for asylum.


    Migrants organizing the list of people waiting said they hadn’t seen or heard about anyone being brought back to Mexico to wait.

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    Wow, does the misinformation and lies ever stop? We were led to believe this was actual policy and was happening.
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    I changed the title of this on our social media channels to ...


    Two weeks later, no sign of TRUMP's 'Remain in Mexico' policy in action at San Ysidro Port of Entry
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    The new agreement with Mexico was announced on December 20, and then the government shutdown the next day, December 21 at midnight. This policy involves multiple departments, DHS, State, Commerce and possibly others, and they're all shut down, so no one is at work to do all the things necessary to implement the new policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The new agreement with Mexico was announced on December 20, and then the government shutdown the next day, December 21 at midnight. This policy involves multiple departments, DHS, State, Commerce and possibly others, and they're all shut down, so no one is at work to do all the things necessary to implement the new policy.
    DHS and Border Patrol and ICE are all still at work unaffected by the shutdown.... and we are seeing DHS buses with DHS bus drivers bringing illegal aliens into El Paso and Phoenix so why would anyone believe they cant keep illegals in Mexico due to a shutdown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    DHS and Border Patrol and ICE are all still at work unaffected by the shutdown.... and we are seeing DHS buses with DHS bus drivers bringing illegal aliens into El Paso and Phoenix so why would anyone believe they cant keep illegals in Mexico due to a shutdown?
    No, only "essential" personnel. They have to write the implementation policy and make all the arrangements and everything with Mexico coordinated through the US State Department. Border Patrol for example doesn't even have their support staff at work to process people.

    Even if the government was fully functioning it would still take time to fully implement the plan. The effective date for the removals as I understand it is Dec 20, none of those before will go to Mexico, only those taken in after Dec 20, but the actual removal of those who came in after Dec 20, could be weeks away, maybe months, because both the US has to do things to implement it from our side, and Mexico has to do things from their side to get ready to receive them. This is no different than the implementation of any new policy, domestic or international, but with international you have another country to deal with, or law for that matter. Every law that is passed in our country is effective the date it both passes Congress and is signed into law by a President or in the states, a state legislature and a Governor, but then there's always the implementation and writing the regulations and arranging the resources and so forth before action on the ground actually occurs.

    Not sure why the confusion here. Any ideas?
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    The Feds are still dumping asylum seekers at bus stations forcing Cities, Counties, States and Church groups to take care of them.


    City, County Officials Are Making Moves to Shelter Asylum-Seekers

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