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    ALIPAC: Lifting ban on illegal immigrants may profit college

    Lifting ban on illegal immigrants may profit colleges

    By Francis X. Gilpin
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    North Carolina community colleges would make money by enrolling illegal immigrants.

    That finding from consultants hired by the State Board of Community Colleges appears to blow a hole in the main argument of those who see undocumented students as a drain on the public purse.

    But community college officials remained cautious Friday as they awaited official reaction to the report from their state governing board.

    “From our standpoint, we will comply with whatever the system office determines is the best approach for us to follow,â€
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    And the resources to the undocumented students are taking away from helping American children and students have jobs or to train for the jobs.

    Americans First, NOW We do not want to be Texas, Arizona, California or others who are going broker than broke with their giveaway programs to who?

    The foreigners' undocumented children are illegally here. The government and workplaces should never have permitted this invasion of maybe 12 million illegals.

    "NO MORE"; and yes South Carolina is only state thinking of the Citizens of our nation and the taxpayers.
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    No, lifting the ban on illegal immigrants to attend community colleges WILL NOT profit the colleges. Illegal immigration profits no one. Illegal aliens are just using drug money or wages they stole from an American Worker or scholarships or entitlements they stole from an American Kid to pay fees to attend community colleges.

    What is wrong with these egg-heand colleges and universities? Do they have their heads up the wrong end so far they can't operate their calculators? Or are they really that stupid?!

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    The consultants who performed the study — JBL Associates Inc. and Powers, Pyles, Sutter & Verville PC — calculated that community colleges would earn $1,680 per student, if they lifted the ban and charged out-of-state tuition.

    Community colleges would still earn this money if they gave the seats to American students. There are only so many seats available...and they would just go to somone else. The losers are the American students who are turned away in favor of illegal students....and out of state American students who have to pay out of state tuition...or cant attend because they cant afford it.
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    I already subsidize public colleges through my taxes. I don't need a double subsidy by providing college fees AND social services to illegals.
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    And then we Americans are to give to anchor babies and undocumented students a free ride to college or in-state tuition at undocumented parents request?

    NO WAY!
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    US citizens who pay out of state need to sue if undocumented parents and students are given in-state tuition.
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    And then there is the grade point average in Senior Year of High School.
    If a grade point average is greater for one students doesn't mean the higher grade point is college bound or even taking harder courses. US Citizens have been cheated out of College due to dumbies in an unfair system of grade point averages permitting non college bound students (undocumented immigrants) to have a better grade point average somehow.

    All grade point averages are put together in a ranking order. Someone taking a college level courses compared to lower level 12th grade courses; will probably be under so much more pressure; and the grade points can end up being the same. But if the lower level 12th grade courses loaded person can get that little sweet advantage. It does knock that more prepared college bound American child/citizen out by not being in the top 5%, 10% or even 20% of the graduation class ranking.

    So the American Child/Citizen does not get into preferred college or scholarships for their hard work in High School is VOIDED by illegals.

    LUMPING ALL GRADE POINT AVERAGES TOGETHER IS NOT WISE! and I am about 99.9% sure the school system are lumping illegal immgrants grades, non-college bound, and the very bright student all together into one combined grade point average group for ranking of the class.

    Who is most likely to lose above? and Who definitely has the most to gain?

    (It is a game with our heads to dumb us down. John Lennon wrote a song about "20 years of schooling" to dumb children down.)

    What a planned plot against Americans and their children.
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    Profit motive rationales

    Suppose there was overwhelming demand (with all students paying cash at "profit" generating out-of-state tuition rates) for a two year degree program in contemporary pornography production technologies. Would that be a good justification for the state to institute such a program?

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    HELP BY EMAILS, CALLS, FAXES, VIST WITH NC ELECTED OFFICIALS IN TOWN HALL MEETING...

    Ask yourself can you afford a tax hike or cost increase to college with more limited space for North Carolina or US Citizens?

    Post to inform what the Community College and School System are help to.
    N.C.: College students protest illegal immigrant ban
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-942363.html#942363

    HELP END NC GIVEAWAY OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

    Thank you for your help in advance,
    X

    PS: eMail Richard Sullins in the below email before time runs out for the Citizens of North Carolina.


    --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Richard Sullins <sullinsr@nccommunitycolleges.edu> wrote:

    > From: Richard Sullins <sullinsr@nccommunitycolleges.edu>
    > Subject: Re: Against Illegal Aliens Getting Into Community College
    > To: X
    > Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 7:09 AM
    > Dear X
    >
    > Thank you so much for taking time to share your views on
    > the very important and complex issue relating to the
    > admission of undocumented students to our colleges across
    > North Carolina. There are many
    > considerations that the State Board of Community Colleges
    > will take into account as they deliberate on this matter and
    > among them will be your views, which it is my pleasure to
    > share with them.
    >
    > Please know that your interest in North Carolina's
    > community colleges is greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Richard W. Sullins, M.A., Ed.
    > Executive Director of the State Board and Education Policy
    > Liaison
    > North Carolina Community College System
    > 200 West Jones Street
    > Raleigh, NC 27603-1379
    > Phone: 919.807.6969
    > sullinsr@nccommunitycolleges.edu
    >
    >
    > E-Mail correspondence to and from this address may be
    > subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law (NCGS 132)
    > and may be disclosed to third parties.
    >
    >
    > 8/20/2009 7:19 AM >>>
    > Dear Mr. Richard W. Sullins:
    >
    > I am astounded in hearing that the Community College in
    > North Carolina are considering again to allow illegal aliens
    > into our colleges.
    >
    > I am totally against taxpayer money going to Community
    > Colleges in North Carolina if your board permits illegal
    > aliens into the colleges.
    >
    > Too concerned for NC,
    X
    >
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    What is the discussion about - they are ILLEGAL aliens. There is no nice way to word it to make it sound better. They have NO right to the same benefits of citizenship that American citizens do - NONE. That includes access to our education system, from elementray school through Harvard! Just because they graduated from an American high school simply means they've been here longer and have evaded deportation until now! Here's an idea - let 'em register then when they show up for class, herd 'em onto buses and haul their illegal butts back across the border ...

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