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    US healthcare bill leaves illegal immigrants excluded

    US healthcare bill leaves illegal immigrants excluded
    Omission was price of bringing conservative Democrats on board, particularly in states such as Texas

    Chris McGreal in Houston
    guardian.co.uk, Monday 22 March 2010 21.00 GMT Article history

    The Texas governor Rick Perry has vowed to challenge the 'unconstitutional' healthcare bill.

    The woman with the small child in tow outside the Clear Lake medical centre has every reason to celebrate health care reform. Except one.

    She is not covered because she cannot afford the sky-high insurance premiums charged in Texas. As a part-time domestic worker in one of the sprawling waterside houses just outside Houston, her earnings would qualify her for heavily subsidised health coverage under the new law.

    But the Mexican-born woman is an illegal immigrant – one of the undocumented, as the Americans call them – and the new legislation bars her from benefiting.

    "My daughter is six. She was born here. The state pays for her to go to hospital," she said. "If I get sick I do what all the Mexicans do: I go and sit in the emergency room where they cannot turn you away."

    That will not change after the law comes into effect in 2014. The government says the new legislation will extend coverage to 95% of the population, bringing in 32m people who lack insurance because of cost, existing health problems or through choice. But there will still remain about 5% of the population who fall beyond the provisions of the reforms.

    The Congressional budget office estimates that five years after the law comes into effect there will still be 23m people in the US without insurance. One-third of these will be illegal immigrants – many have lived in the US for years and their children are Americans. Others are likely to be young people who will choose to defy the requirement for compulsory insurance and pay the relatively small fine.

    Excluding illegal immigrants was a price Barack Obama paid for bringing conservative Democrats on board, particularly in states such as Texas, which has the highest rate of uninsured people in the country. One in three adults of working age in Texas – about 6m people – do not have health insurance. Children and the elderly are covered by state programmes.

    The Centre for Public Policy Priorities in Austin, the Texan capital, says the bulk of those not covered are on low wages in jobs without health insurance and cannot afford the high premiums. "Part of the assumption is that there are still some who will chose to remain uninsured," said Anne Dunkelberg, associate director of the centre. "Then there are undocumented immigrants. They have been historically excluded from health insurance and they will continue to be excluded."

    She says that, while the census does not ask about people's immigration status, a conservative estimate is that about 1m of those without health insurance in Texas are in the US illegally.

    "Texas not only excludes the undocumented but also legal permanent residents who aren't US citizens from buying in to the state's health care coverage," she said. "Texas has a very poor record at access to social programmes such as free health care and food stamps."

    But the state has deeper objections to the new law. The governor, Rick Perry, says Texas will launch a legal challenge to the legislation as unconstitutional and an infringement on personal liberty.

    "Unfortunately, the health care vote had more to do with expanding socialism on American soil than it does fixing our health care finance and delivery systems," said Perry. "The Obama health care bill undermines patient choice, personal responsibility, medical innovation and fiscal responsibility in America."


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    Dont worry Illegals ~ Obama has got that one covered ~ With AMNESTY
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    Texas, nor any other state, does not need to take taxpayer dollars to cover the non-taxpayers like illegals. They need to take those dollars and deport evey illegal found, whether they are in jail or not. The illegals have already broken a major federal law by being here without permission in the first place. And since when do the laws of a sovereign country get considered as a joke? Only in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    Dont worry Illegals ~ Obama has got that one covered ~ With AMNESTY
    That's what I was thinking as well.
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    What about the 30 Million Anchor Babies ?

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    "But the Mexican-born woman is an illegal immigrant – one of the undocumented, as the Americans call them – and the new legislation bars her from benefiting."

    Americans as a group do not call them undocumented, the politicians call them that. Real Americans call them illegal which is what they are. Illegal is not a bad word, it's used to describe their status in our country.

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    My daughter is six. She was born here. The state pays for her to go to hospital," she said. "If I get sick I do what all the Mexicans do: I go and sit in the emergency room where they cannot turn you away."
    No wonder hospitals around this country are closing their doors; making American citizens have to drive that much further in a medical emergency to seek treatment!
    So once again, illegal invaders, through their actions are putting a vast number of Americans in harms way!
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    With this new healthcare bill illegals don't get insurance and the problem is that hospitals still have to treat them. There is nothing saying that if it is not life threatening they should be told to pay or go back home. Another problem is that more employers will hire illegals as they would not have to provide them with health insurance. It is a no win situation.
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    With no verification in place in the HC plan, you can bet good money the illegals will not only get insurance, they will get government subsidies. In my home town, 45 people use the same SSN at our local hospital. Does anyone think that will change. On the other hand, why spend money on insurance when you can get free health care and send the savings to Mexico?
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    Just call me crazy, but how responsible is it for someone to sneak into our country, and then produce a child, when only working part time as a housekeeper? And the father? Does he not contribute to the costs, and if not, why not?

    The real traitor is the homeowner who is hiring her and allowing us to subsidize her illegal labor and anchor. Think of the costs to us as taxpayers and to our nation. And we all know that the traitor is well aware that their housekeeper is illegal.

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