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    UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid

    UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
    Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:01 PM

    UNITED NATIONS -- Helping the world's poor adapt to more floods, droughts and other changes from a warming planet will cost the richest nations at least $86 billion a year by 2015, an expert panel warned Tuesday.

    "They must have help from the rich world," said Claes Johnasson, a co-author of the report commissioned by the U.N. Development Program. "Climate is forcing people into human development traps."

    Half the cost, $44 billion, would go for "climate-proofing" developing nations' infrastructure while $40 billion would help the poor adapt how the live to cope with climate-related risks, says the panel's report. The other $2 billion would go to strengthening responses to natural disasters.

    The report recommends the biggest share be paid by the United States and other rich nations, based on aid targets and financing calculations by the World Bank and Group of Eight major industrialized nations.

    The Bush administration said in a statement that one of its top priorities is "to alleviate poverty and spur economic growth in the developing world by modernizing energy services."

    The Human Development Report each year compares nations by life expectancy, literacy and other data. This year, it focuses on climate change, coming just a week before the world's nations convene in Indonesia to negotiate a new climate treaty.

    It adds a dire economic perspective to previous U.N. scientific findings that carbon and other heat-trapping "greenhouse gas" emissions must stabilize by 2015 and then decline. Without the money, the panel found, a warmer world "could stall and then reverse human development" in the countries where 2.6 billion people live on $2 a day or less.

    Scientists have reported that temperatures rose an average 1.3 degrees in the past 100 years, bringing the prospect of a century of extreme weather, rising seas, widening drought and disease and harm to fisheries, forests and farmland.

    According to development officials, the consequences include women and young girls having to walk farther to collect water in the Horn of Africa, and people erecting bamboo flood shelters on stilts in the Ganges River delta.

    "These impacts ... go unnoticed in financial markets and in the measurement of world gross domestic product (GDP)," the report said. "But increased exposure to drought, to more intense storms, to floods and environmental stress is holding back the efforts of the world's poor to build a better life for themselves and their children."

    Olav Kjorven, head of the U.N. Development Program's bureau for development policy, called the financial aid a sort of "climate-proofing" for the poor that is only natural "when we know that the frequency of droughts and floods is going up."

    Because of global warming, he said, 600 million more people in sub-Saharan Africa will go hungry from collapsing agriculture, an extra 400 million people will be exposed to malaria and other diseases, and an added 200 million will be flooded out of their homes.

    The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies with the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels.

    "We're suggesting 1.6 percent of (global) GDP _ still very affordable," Kjorven said. "The countries of the world that are the principal culprits, if you wish, for creating this problem in the first place need to act strongly to safeguard the future of those that have done nothing to cause this problem but are the most vulnerable."

    Developed countries, meanwhile, are failing to meet their targets under the current climate treaty, the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, for cutting greenhouse gases by 2012, the report said. France, Germany, Japan and Britain have reduced their emissions somewhat, it said, but the European Union is falling short of its goal of a 20 percent cut by 2020.

    "To say that the industrialized countries aren't meeting their Kyoto targets _ that remains to be seen," said Annie Petsonk, a lawyer for the advocacy group Environmental Defense. "The targets only take effect for the years 2008 to 2012. The countries are getting ready for them."

    Petsonk said developing nations' carbon-trading markets have the potential to generate large flows of private capital that could help provide much of the development money the U.N. recommends to help the poor adapt to global warming.

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    I believe we are adding to global warming.. but if you dont believe this isnt one of the biggest money making schemes.... man I got a bridge I want to sell you in Antartica

    We do need to conserve; we do need to cut back; we do need to work on re-newable energy

    But common... the UN is one of the biggest corrupt organizations on this planet and I dont believe one bit of information that comes out of it's mouth piece
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    And now comes the REAPING of the intended results of the global warming scam........sucking the money out of the Western world and especially the U.S. They are crazy if they give them one dime.....the poor will see none of it. What a bunch of fools!

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    This story makes me feel like I'm living in a bad dream.

    The UN needs to pack up their stuff and get the hell out of the U.S.. I can't believe that we've put up with this BS on our soil for so long. It's one to thing to ask for some cash, but it's another thing to demand and extort money from the "rich" under the guise of protecting the "poor" from natural disasters that have occured since the beginning of time. And the socialism and global warming angles are just icing on the cake. How stupid do they think we are and how much longer are we going to tolerate their shenanigans?

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    The UN's Global Warming conclusions came from political groups and environmental activist groups like Greenpeace who were picked by the UN. Most of the panel of experts weren't even scientists, so I wouldn't trust anything they say about Global Warming, much less anything else. I think it's a big scam.

    In a few years, they will invent another calamity, so they can regulate our lives even more. It all boils down to world control, and to do that you have to create panic. This allows them to change laws,etc... to suit their agenda. Thus the people will conform, when under normal circumstances they wouldn't.

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    The report recommends the biggest share be paid by the United States and other rich nations, based on aid targets and financing calculations by the World Bank and Group of Eight major industrialized nations.


    That's our tax dollars they're talking about folks!

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    I could use a little help with my heating bill this winter!
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    The Chairman of the IPCC, the UN climate group, is an Industrial Engineer from India. Less than half of the IPCC are scientists and not necessarily climate scientists. A lot of the top scientists quit the IPCC because of pressure to "green-up" their assessments.

    There is NO consensus, even among the IPCC, but when you see the headlines, "WORLD'S Top Scientists", they are talking about the less than 1100 IPCC, U.N. group. AND it's the Inter-GOVERNMENTAL Panel on Climate Change. The respective GOVERNMENTS have to APPROVE the assessments of their representative scientists.

    What do you think the conclusions of these 3rd World scientists will be when their governments stand to make BILLIONS from the Western World??? Great Britain is already paying China MILLIONS to do what they should do voluntarily, like destroying certain hydrocarbons. Africa countries stand to get BILLIONS by NOT building coal-fired power plants, futher keeping the people in poverty and disease. It sickens me to think of this scam and the arrogance of the perpetraters and the ignorance of people who buy into it.

    I recently read an article denouncing the global warming scam from an English paper. The comments left were nauseating. It's hard to believe just how much some hate mankind and thus themselves. One said, "all deniers need to shut-up, while the rest of us go on SAVING THE WORLD."

    Unbelievable!

    If anybody needs any links to global warming info, I got hundreds of them!

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    Not only are they going to siphon money from the US taxpayers, but dollars to donuts, this 'aid' will ultimately show up in the bottom line figures of the corporations. They will do the building, etc., etc.

    So while we debate global warming, and the UN uses the pretext to further bankrupt Ameria, we are running out of clean water, clean air, etc.

    Some of the reasons those women in Africa are having to walk so far for water is because global companies have bought the water rights to some of Africa. I saw a program on this. It was a French company and the people in the villages could no longer use the water from the wells that had been dug by the Peace Corp without paying for it.

    Of course, they are going to tell us it's global warming - it could be global corruption.

    So a government sells the water rights to a corporation, now Americans are expected to buy water for the people from this corporation? Nice racket - isn't it?
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    Half the cost, $44 billion, would go for "climate-proofing" developing nations' infrastructure while $40 billion would help the poor adapt how the live to cope with climate-related risks, says the panel's report. The other $2 billion would go to strengthening responses to natural disasters.
    "climate-proofing" developing nations. WHAT A CROCK! THIS IS NOTHING BUT ANOTHER U.N. SCAM.
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