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    Government admits lying about jailed border agents

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    WND Exclusive INVASION USA
    Government admits lying about jailed border agents
    Inspector confronted on Capitol Hill, says promised 'proof' does not exist
    Posted: February 6, 2007
    8:06 p.m. Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



    Rep. John Culberson, R-Texas
    A Department of Homeland Security official admitted today the agency misled Congress when it contended it possessed investigative reports proving Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean confessed guilt and declared they "wanted to shoot some Mexicans" prior to the incident that led to their imprisonment.

    The admission came during the testimony of DHS Inspector General Richard L. Skinner before the Homeland Security Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, according to Michael Green, press secretary for Rep. John Culberson, R-Texas.

    Culberson was questioning Skinner about a meeting DHS officials had Sept. 26 with him and three other Republican congressman from Texas, Reps. Ted Poe, Michael McCaul and Kenny Marchant.

    WND previously reported that at that meeting the DHS Inspector General's office asserted it had documentary evidence Ramos and Compean:

    1. confessed to knowingly shooting at an unarmed suspect;

    2. stated during the interrogation they did not believe the suspect was a threat to them at the time of the shooting;

    3. stated that day they "wanted to shoot a Mexican";

    4. were belligerent to investigators;

    5. destroyed evidence and lied to investigators.

    Under questioning by Culberson, Skinner admitted DHS did not in fact have investigative reports to back up the claims: "The person who told you that misinformed you," Skinner reportedly replied.

    This prompted a startled and angry response from the congressman.

    "You lied to me and you lied to all of us," Culberson charged. "Your office tried to paint a picture of Ramos and Compean as dirty cops, and now you come before this committee and tell us you never had the information to back up those claims."

    Ramos and Compean began prison sentences last month after their actions in the shooting of a drug smuggler who was granted immunity to testify against them.

    Responding to Skinner's testimony yesterday, Poe said it "explains why DHS has been stonewalling Congress."

    "DHS didn't turn over the reports to us to back up their September 26 accusations for one simple reason – the reports never existed," the Texas congressman said.

    "Why did it take DHS four months to admit their error?" he asked. "I wonder how much more has DHS told the public and Congress about Ramos and Compean that simply isn't true?"

    Poe said he's determined to get to the bottom of DHS's claim.

    "I expect this new revelation will lead to a lot more questions before we're done," he said.

    Andy Ramirez, who has been involved with the case as chairman of Friends of the Border Patrol, told WND the DHS's actions "represent obstruction of justice, and they should be held in contempt of Congress, and, if possible, prosecuted to the full extent of the law."

    "This admission today is yet more proof of how they are willing to distort the facts, as I have charged all along, in order to ensure a conviction," he said.
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    I read this. this morning.....there must be something going on here! Maybe someone high up, is involved with this drug dealer...there's more to this than we know.
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    It doesn't matter what we are talking about, there is ALWAYS more to it than we know, but hopefully we will get to the bottom of this one and get those men out of prison.

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    stated that day they "wanted to shoot a Mexican";
    Interesting that another article states that the drug smuggler admitted to saying to his buddies (other "fine citizens") should put together a hunting party and go shoot BP agents. They have proof this drug smuggler said this, but they can't provide proof the agents said what they said.
    Sutton should be in prison, not the agents.

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    DHS should go to jail

    Individuals in the DHS and DOJ should be in jail instead of the border agents. Mexican style corruption seems to in the DHS and DOJ already.

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    Re: DHS should go to jail

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckyal
    Individuals in the DHS and DOJ should be in jail instead of the border agents. Mexican style corruption seems to in the DHS and DOJ already.
    Rep. Culberson is on the Ingraham show now. He plans to call for the firing of the DHS people that lied to Congess, telling them them these were rogue agents last September. They are still not able to get a transcript of this trial. Culberson says he plans to shine plenty of sunlight on the events in this trial.
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    "You lied to me and you lied to all of us," Culberson charged. "Your office tried to paint a picture of Ramos and Compean as dirty cops, and now you come before this committee and tell us you never had the information to back up those claims."
    I hope heads roll over this!!!!

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    "Rep. Culberson blah blah... He plans to call for the firing of the DHS people that lied to Congess..."

    WHOOoooooo he gets fired, such a catastrophe in his life. He'll get another position near immediately. WHAT REALLY NEEDS to be done here is these lying DHS people need to serve jail time equal to what the 2 boarder agents got, (AKA: Eye for an eye). Let these DHS people get the KRAP beat out of them just like Compean and Ramos got. THEEEEN MAAAAYBE our politicians will do the right thing. Doubt it tho, they'll have a job immediately after there incarceration, unlike Compean and Ramos will.
    AND YES I believe someone up the GOP ladder is at fault,... BUSH!!! mr. know all - see all. He's our dictator not unlike Hussein, he doesn't get his hands dirty, makes others do it.

    __ WAKE UP PEOPLE, firing these Political
    __ fibbers & thieves is not the answer!
    __ Equal jail time is!


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    Now that this lie has been exposed I have a feeling the agents will not serve much time. The statute used to give these guys that much time was intended to add prison time for those that would commit a crime with a firearm. The intention to commit a crime must exist first. The statement "shoot some Mexicans today" shows an intent to commit crime first and allow the use of committing a crime using a firearm statutes. It has now been determined that the BP agents had the intent of going to work and doing their job. DHD lied. There is not a statute which adds prison time for committing your job. The use of the statute will fall.
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    This is exactly why DHS should not be control by the President via a cabinet position. The law enforcement of the land should not be controlled by the executive branch. Just a little too Communistic for this Red Blooded American.

    Oh, it's creation was simply "growing government".

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