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05-30-2008, 01:58 PM #1Senior Member
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Villaraigosa Wants to Use Gun Restrictions to Take on Gangs
This guy is stuck on stupid! He will do ANYTHING but the right thing...DEPORT THE ILLEGALS and throw the rest of them in jail! We need to deport Villaraigosa AND the illegals!
Villaraigosa wants to use gun restrictions, databases to take on gangs
By Andrew Blankstein and David Zahniser, Los Angeles Times
May 30, 2008
Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa on Thursday unveiled plans to target gangs and guns -- including confiscating cars used in gang-related crimes -- with a series of new city ordinances.
The mayor proposed giving landlords the power to evict tenants convicted of using and possessing illegal weapons and ammunition. And he promised to push other new laws to regulate the purchase of ammunition and storage of weapons.
The proposed ordinances include banning .50-caliber, military-style ammunition; licensing ammunition vendors; requiring gun-store owners to make regular gun inventories and report to local law enforcement; and outlawing installation of secret gun compartments in vehicles.
"We're upping the ante," Villaraigosa said.
Chuck Michel, an attorney who represents the National Rifle Assn. and California Rifle Assn., called the mayor's proposals "a rehash."
"The bottom line is that the majority of these proposals have either been tried and failed elsewhere because they don't focus on the criminal or they are covered by proposed bills still being vetted by the Legislature," he said.
Michel added that a recent ruling drastically limits individual cities from regulating guns and ammunition.
Villaraigosa called for federal legislation that would include micro-stamping every bullet produced in the United States. Working with Councilman Jack Weiss, the mayor also proposed a measure to require that sales of ammunition in Los Angeles occur face to face, not over the Internet.
So far this year 670 people have been victims of guns crimes, and 70% of all shootings were gang-related, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.
Because landlords might fear retaliation from gang members, the city's legal team will work to force suspects who illegally possess weapons and ammunition out of their homes, City Atty. Rocky Delgadillo said.
"We're going to step into the shoes of the landlord and do the eviction on their behalf," he said.
Still, one attorney with the ACLU of Southern California warned that some of the proposals, particularly the move to seize vehicles used in gang crimes, could harm innocent relatives of gang members.
"Taking away the family car or putting the family out on the street because one kid has gotten involved in gangs doesn't help the family in the long run," said ACLU staff attorney Peter Bibring.
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05-30-2008, 02:10 PM #2
ban the 50 cal's . the gangs will still get what they want . Their 30,000 strong and no data base can take that on . Arrest and Deport . Give back to Mexico what they gave to us , BUMS !
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05-30-2008, 02:17 PM #3
Oh hell no chump.
Like gun restrictions worked in Mexico? Mexico is turning into a bloody war zone because the guns and power are in the hands of the elites via the corrupt Mexican government and the crime cartels instead of the people.
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05-30-2008, 02:50 PM #4What a jerk!"We're upping the ante," Villaraigosa said.
Why dont you "up the ante" and do the right thing Villaraigosa? It would be alot easier and less costly to send these GANGSTERS TO JAIL OR DEPORT THEM! America never had such a terrible problem with criminals like these until the borders were left wide open.
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05-30-2008, 03:01 PM #5The ACLU doesn't seem to care that it's done to people who deal drugs, what about their innocent familie? Those families lose the HOMES as well as cars and other assets.Still, one attorney with the ACLU of Southern California warned that some of the proposals, particularly the move to seize vehicles used in gang crimes, could harm innocent relatives of gang members.
"Taking away the family car or putting the family out on the street because one kid has gotten involved in gangs doesn't help the family in the long run," said ACLU staff attorney Peter Bibring.
Gang members DON'T register guns DUH, what we need to do is outlaw gang members and deport the illegal alien ones!Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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05-30-2008, 03:42 PM #6
He is putting on a show of attacking a symptom, not the disease, Guns don't kill without a shooter......people kill people.
How is this to geared to stopping gang-related stabbings? It's not. Will the sale of baseball bats be regulated with each bat registered--gangs and others murder with baseball bats and other blunt and sharp objects.
People in jail and/or deported do not need to rent housing--but it sounds good on paper.Because landlords might fear retaliation from gang members, the city's legal team will work to force suspects who illegally possess weapons and ammunition out of their homes, City Atty. Rocky Delgadillo said.
What about those who own their property? Gang members involved in illegal drugs, prostitution, etc. likely have lots of money. Confiscate the property.
Perhaps the 'innocent relatives' will pressure family members not to join gangs if it means losing their car. Forfeiture laws are applied in many crimes--so why should gang members be exempt?Still, one attorney with the ACLU of Southern California warned that some of the proposals, particularly the move to seize vehicles used in gang crimes, could harm innocent relatives of gang members.
All auto body and repair shops should be reguired by law to report vehicles brought in for repair of bullet damage or have their businesses forfeitured. Gang members aren't about to drive around in a vehicle with bullet holes announcing to the world what they are involved in. Unfortunately stolen vehicles are also used.
Aren't gang members 'domestic terrorists'?
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05-30-2008, 07:16 PM #7
Rescind Special Order 40 and end all sanctuary policies.
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05-31-2008, 12:07 AM #8Senior Member
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They need to make all the drugs illegal then the dealers could just them in with their illegal guns.
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