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    Violence prompts calls for bigger National Guard deployment

    Mexican cartel violence prompts calls for bigger National Guard deployment along the border

    Inside Mexico's drug war

    Mexico's ongoing drug war continues to claim lives and disrupt order in the country.

    By Nick MiroffWashington Post Staff Writer
    Tuesday, January 4, 2011; 7:47 PM

    NOGALES, ARIZONA On the dusty hilltops west of U.S. Interstate 19, National Guardsmen with M-4 rifles peer down from camouflage tents and surveillance posts, so close to the border fence they can almost watch TV through the windows of Mexican homes on the other side.

    The troops are members of the Arizona National Guard and Arizona Air National Guard, sent by the Obama administration last summer amid heightened concerns about lawlessness and spillover drug violence along the border. Of the 1,200 Guardsmen deployed to the U.S.-Mexico divide, 560 are here in Arizona, where lawmakers pushed hard for a larger military deployment during a statewide crackdown on illegal immigration last year.

    "We are extra eyes and ears," said Brig. Gen. Jose Salinas of the Arizona National Guard. "We're out in the open, trying to act as a deterrent, ready to respond to any kind of weird incident out there."

    Salinas said the one-year National Guard mission is a stopgap measure to give U.S. Customs and Border Protection time to hire more agents. But worsening cartel violence in Mexico and several high-profile killings on the U.S. side have raised calls for more National Guardsmen along the border, even though illegal immigration and crime in the region have declined.

    Border-state legislators from both parties - particularly following the Dec. 14 killing of a Border Patrol agent just north of Nogales - say they view the U.S. military presence as a long-term necessity, despite rules that mostly limit the Guardsmen to watching the fence line and prevent them from making arrests or seizing drugs.

    "The border with Mexico is our third front, after Afghanistan and Iraq," said Rep. Ted Poe (R-Tex.), who has proposed legislation allowing border-state governors to send 10,000 Guardsmen to the area. "Whether you want to call it a war zone, or whatever, we need the National Guard because of criminal violence along the border."
    Deployment denounced

    Human rights organizations and policy analysts say the U.S. military deployment endangers civilians and is wasteful, pointing to FBI statistics showing that crime in many areas on the U.S. side is at its lowest point in years.

    Drug violence has killed more than 30,000 in Mexico in the past four years, and the country's powerful trafficking gangs have turned Mexican towns along the U.S. border into bloody urban battlefields.

    Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), whose district includes the state's southeast corner, where 58-year-old rancher Robert Krentz and his dog were shot and killed in March, said the troops help keep the mayhem on the other side.

    "Mexican and American authorities have gone after cartel kingpins, and because of the disruption, these gangs are going after each other," Giffords said. "We're seeing tremendous violence along the border that we haven't seen in the past."

    Once overwhelmed and understaffed, U.S. Customs and Border Protection has been on a hiring binge in recent years, increasing its number of agents from 10,000 in 2004 to more than 20,500 today, Department of Homeland Security figures show. Meanwhile, the number of suspected illegal immigrants apprehended by the Border Patrol has plunged more than 60 percent, from an all-time high of 1.1 million in fiscal 2004 to fewer than 447,500 last fiscal year.

    High unemployment in the United States is a major reason for the decrease, experts say. Although fewer illegal migrants are crossing and several large urban areas have become safer, drug seizures have increased and tougher enforcement is pushing traffickers into more remote rural areas. That has led to several high-profile killings that have fueled fears of encroaching violence.

    The most recent came Dec. 14, when Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in a shootout with a group of bandits devoted to robbing drug smugglers and immigrants. Four suspects were arrested in the killing, and a fifth is the target of an ongoing manhunt.

    It was the seventh shooting this year on rancher David Lowell's 32,000-acre property outside Rio Rico, where the jagged Tumacacori Mountains are traversed with south-north smuggling trails snaking out of Mexico.

    Two years ago, a man working for Lowell found a human head inside a plastic bag on a nearby ridge.

    "We never found the body that went with it," said Lowell, 82.

    Like many landowners here, Lowell said he would like to see a larger and more muscular military deployment in the region. "I think that if there were a battalion of troops in Arizona and they did unpleasant things to people that were breaking the law, the trouble would stop overnight," he said.

    The 1,200 National Guard troops are stationed at strategic points along the 2,000-mile border, including both urban and unfenced remote rural areas. But they are under orders to avoid interacting with civilians on either side, and they do not make apprehensions, said Salinas, who oversees the partnership with the Border Patrol and other DHS agencies in his state.

    Instead, the troops stand lookout near trafficking hot spots and report illegal crossings to nearby Border Patrol agents, who make the arrests and narcotics seizures.

    Use of force

    Salinas said he could not discuss his troops' use-of-force policies, citing security protocols. But the Guardsmen are fully armed, as they would be in any combat environment, he said. "In the event something happens out there, our soldiers and airmen understand the rules of use of force," he said.

    That is another point of concern for critics of the U.S. military presence. In 1997, U.S. Marines tasked with similar border-guard duties shot and killed an American high school student near Redford, Tex., who was carrying a .22 rifle as he tended a herd of goats, an incident that prompted a suspension of troop patrols.

    "There is a tendency for military to think that they're looking at an enemy, and that's a recipe for disaster," said George Withers, a senior fellow at the Washington Office on Latin America, a group that tracks U.S. policy in the region.

    Between 2006 and 2008, the Bush administration assigned as many as 6,000 Guardsmen to assist Border Patrol agents in a similar capacity and to help with border fence improvements as well as other security enhancements. Withers said the current troop deployment fulfills more of a political need, rather than a practical one.

    "We're treating the National Guard as a kind of 'super police,' and it's just wrong," he said. "Police are trained to use minimum force to enforce the laws. The military is trained to use overwhelming lethal force to win wars."

    Some Mexican officials have criticized the troop deployment as an unnecessary "militarization" of the border. But Arturo Sarukhan, Mexico's ambassador to the United States, said that sending National Guard troops to the border was "a sovereign decision of the U.S government" and noted that Mexico's military is widely deployed along its border as well.

    Still, Sarukhan said he thought "other U.S. agencies are better suited to engage with their Mexican counterparts in confronting transnational organized crime operating on both sides of our border."

    Sarukhan said he is also concerned about troops from both countries working in such close proximity, where demarcation lines are not always clear and cross-border communication is often lacking.

    "We have our armed forces doing drug interdiction and securing the border on our side, and that could lead to unfortunate mistakes," he said.

    In Nogales, activists say the soldiers' presence makes the area appear under siege.

    "They say they're here because it's a dangerous area, but we live here," said Gustavo Lozano, a coordinator of the group Fronteras Desiguales, which advocates for migrants and against racial profiling of Latinos in the United States. "I feel less safe with them here," he said.

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    REP. POE FILES NATIONAL GUARD BORDER ENFORCEMENT ACT

    Published 01/06/2011 - 3:30 p.m. CST

    Legislation Requires Defense Department to Authorize 10,000 National Guard Troops & Pay for Deployment


    WASHINGTON, DC - Yesterday, Congressman Ted Poe (TX-02) filed the National Guard Border Enforcement Act. This bill is identical to the legislation filed in the 111th Congress. The bill will authorize the Secretary of Defense to make 10,000 National Guard troops available upon request from a U.S. Governor. In addition, these troops will be paid for by the federal government and serve under the command of the requesting governor.

    Recent news reports indicate that the Department of Homeland Security will deploy National Guard troops to Afghanistan to help in securing the border with Pakistan.

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    The demoRATS would like like fools If they opposed this bill... This has a very good chance to pass I cannot wait

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    Not only are they not enforcing immigration laws, they are encouraging and rewarding these people

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    Numerous news accounts have reported on cross border gunfire coming into El Paso, Texas, hitting buildings and passenger vehicles traveling along US highways. In Arizona, the federal government is erecting signs to warn travelers that entire stretches of US highways are no longer safe for US citizens.

    It sickens me that this has been going on and is still going on. This administration, like the one before it, does not want to secure the southwest border. There are money changers in the house...

    Treason, that should be punishable by a long time in prison for any US lawmaker who opposes the proposed bill.

    It is so very good to hear that some law enforcement and at least a few governing officials are finally starting to stand up against the corruption factors in this government and fight...

    God Bless you Poe and all the others who actually care about Americans more than their pocketbooks and positions. God Bless the brave men and women of our border patrol. God keep you all safe.
    As Aristotle said, “Tolerance and apathy are the first virtue of a dying civilization.

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    The signs aren't on Federal Highways.
    They are on small back roads in remote wilderness areas.
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    No way DUMBOMBA ever signs this bill

    It is highly unlikely to make it past the symps in the Senate

    The dems that control the senate and the whitehouse in no way want to stop the flow and you all know that.

    This would give the NG an arrest power and also a shoot to k,,l power

    It is exactly what we need on that border , I would go one more and instead of NG , Put a full division or 2 of active duty marines down there.

    Its their primary job as per the constitution to protect the homeland from invasion.

    At this time , I'd say there is a pretty good argument that we are being and have been invaded.

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    I STILL THINK THAT SOMEONE IS GETTING MONEY FROM THE FLOW OF DRUGS COMING ACCROSS THAT BORDER AND FOR OBAMA TO BE AS CORRUPT AND UNCARING AS HE IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THOSE WHO HE HAS SWORN TO PROTECT, WELL IT SPEAKS VOLUMNS ABOUT JUST HOW CORRUPT HE REALLY IS. HE AND HIS FAMILY ARE PROTECTED 24/7 BECAUSE WE THE PEOPLE PAY FOR THAT PROTECTION AND, AS FAR AS HE IS CONCERNED WE THE PEOPLE CAN JUST GO TO H**L. I WILL BE SO GLAD WHEN HIS TIME IN OFFICE IS OVER BECAUSE HE WILL NOT BE A TWO TERM PRESIDEN THIS MAN RECEIVED A LOT OF VOTES FROM THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE AND, THERE A QUITE A FEW WHO ARE NOT PLANNING ON MAKING THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. HE IS ALL ABOUT THE LATINO VOTE. SO LET THEM RE-ELECT HIM. BTW, ILLEGAL LATINOS ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE VOTING ANYWAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topsecret10
    The demoRATS would like like fools If they opposed this bill... This has a very good chance to pass I cannot wait
    I CAN ONLY HOPE AND PRAY THAT YOU ARE RIGHT THERE IS NO SENSE IN OBAMA AND OTHERS NOT WANTING TO DO THE JOB THAT THEY SWORE TO DO. THIS MAN JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT PUTTING HIS HAND ON GOD'S WORD AND AS USUAL HE LIED. I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS HOW TO DO ANYTHING ELSE BUT LIE.

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