Thread: WE ARE WILLING TO WORK...just not for peanuts.

Yet again, Bush made another pitch for a Guest Worker Program in a speech earlier this week in Kansas. In a response to a (canned) question from the audience he had this to say about scab laborers (illegal aliens), "It is humane to say to a person, 'You are doing a job somebody else won't do. Here is a temporary card to enable you to do (it),' " .

EXCUSE ME?

I am so tired of this red herring being trotted out to excuse Corporate American and elected officials owned by the likes of Abramoff using this reasoning to push forward a WRONG AGENDA of a Guest Worker Program.
What I would like to know, the questions I would like answered are:

1. Does Mr. Bush recommend honest Americans break laws by working for cash, and not paying our taxes, so that we can afford to compete with those in America illegally?

2. Does Mr. Bush recommend that legalized Americans begin living 20, 30 even 40 to a house so that we can afford to work for less money?

3. Does Mr. Bush feel Middle Class Americans should see their standard of living drop until they are living as Lower Class Americans so that these illegal workers can have a life in America at our expense?

Enough already, it is time for a change, and glad I found a like minded voice in the wilderness.

Pinto Bean
http://www.blogcharm.com/beltwaypintobeans/

Jan. 23, 2006, 10:31PM
Bush still touting guest worker plan
But it would not include amnesty, he assures critics
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3607342.html

By GEBE MARTINEZ
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

WASHINGTON - President Bush renewed his push for guest worker permits for illegal immigrants Monday while reassuring conservative critics that the program offers no amnesty and will include a crackdown on infiltration at the border.

"It is humane to say to a person, 'You are doing a job somebody else won't do. Here is a temporary card to enable you to do (it),' " Bush told a questioner at a forum in Kansas.

The president's long-standing guest worker proposal has deeply divided Republicans between those who consider the workers vital to the economy and others concerned about border and national security. The House passed a bill last month that blocked any mention of a guest worker program.

Some senators, led by John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., have proposed letting the 11 million immigrants in the United States work toward legalization or citizenship by paying a fine and passing background checks.

But the president emphasized that he favors only temporary legal status, similar to the concept in a bill sponsored by Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. It would require workers to leave the country after a few years and apply for permanent status from within their home countries.

"I do not believe that any guest worker program ought to contain amnesty because I believe that, if you granted amnesty to the people here working now, that that would cause another 8 million people or so to come here," Bush said.


More penalties
The House bill dealt with tighter border security and increased penalties for illegal immigrants and their U.S. employers. The White House supported the House bill on the assumption that the Senate would include a type of guest worker plan in its version.


"Everything remains in play, but the one thing that there's consensus about is that security has to be the foundation of any reform," Cornyn said Monday.

Bush's reluctance to specify exactly what he will support is confounding activists on both sides of the issue as the Senate prepares to work on a bill.

His desire for a guest worker program likely will require the unusual step of working with Democrats to win Senate approval, said Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors tight immigration controls. At the same time, the president has implied he will not favor green cards for the illegal immigrants already here.

"If he were to say that, it would be helpful to know what he means. But he does not say that," Camarota said.

Also trying to read between the lines is Angela Kelley of the National Immigration Forum, which favors legalization for the workers.

The president "has been very, very squishy about whether there's any permanent status at the end (of the visa period). He's trying to send a signal that there's not, but he has not closed the door on it, either," Kelley said.

gebe.martinez@chron com

Welcome to the forum PintoBean. Couldn't agree more what Bush and many other elected politicians are doing to our country. They are selling us out to special interest groups with no regard of the consequences to American citizens. Hope you stick around.

1. Does Mr. Bush recommend honest Americans break laws by working for cash, and not paying our taxes, so that we can afford to compete with those in America illegally?

2. Does Mr. Bush recommend that legalized Americans begin living 20, 30 even 40 to a house so that we can afford to work for less money?

3. Does Mr. Bush feel Middle Class Americans should see their standard of living drop until they are living as Lower Class Americans so that these illegal workers can have a life in America at our expense?

PintoBean, Bush might pretend he doesn't know what's going on but I can tell you for sure that thousands of people write to him every day and thousands more write to our illustrious lawmakers who can't seem to get their faces on straight and pick one side of this illegal immigration fence or the other to sit on.

I'm pretty sick of all that is happening. And I think that if the states furthest from the border would start enforcing their laws and forcing the illegals to head southward, even though the states where they came from will be crawling with more than ever for awhile, eventually, they can all sneak back across the border.

I look at it like herding cattle. Head 'em up! move 'em out! and send them back the same way they came in. Those that came on planes and on ships, same way. Let them sneak out the same way they snuck in.

that is so wierd- while I was out trying to find where my flyer signs had been thrown- I found the personal paperwork of a young - (either anchor baby or illegal young adult - latina female-)
well her email address was pinto bean-
my - I will say that she has credit collections everywhere- A eye opener to the myth of the latinos as hardworking and good future taxpayers.

Thelma, thelma. They ALL work hard. It is just that some work hard at conning other people out of things that they shouldn't have.

I had one trying to cry on my shoulder yesterday because she didn't have lunch money for next week. This after she spent four bucks on crap for lunch when she could have done just like I did and made peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches for a week on that same four bucks! Gee, I'm sooooooo sorry. Wish she'd go home where she can get a pint of frijoles for little or nothing.