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    When Illegal Alien Equates to Hate Speech Freedom Erodes

    When Illegal Alien Equates to Hate Speech Freedom Erodes

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    Definitions from the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA):

    For fun, do a search for the text string 'alien' or 'illegal alien' -

    As I said before, US Immigration Law is now 'officially' hate speech according to The Race

    Sec. 101. [8 U.S.C. 1101] (a) As used in this Act-

    (1) The term "administrator" means the official designated by the Secretary of State pursuant to section 104(b) of this Act.

    (2) The term "advocates" includes, but is not limited to, advises, recommends, furthers by overt act, and admits belief in.

    (3) The term "alien" means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.

    (4) The term "application for admission" has reference to the application for admission into the United States and not to the application for the issuance of an immigrant or nonimmigrant visa.

    (5) The term "Attorney General" means the Attorney General of the United States.

    (6) The term "border crossing identification card" means a document of identity bearing that designation issued to an alien who is lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or to an alien who is a resident in foreign contiguous territory, by a consular officer or an immigration officer for the purpose of crossing over the borders between the United States and foreign contiguous territory in accordance with such conditions for its issuance and use as may be prescribed by regulations. Such regulati ons shall provide that (A) each such document include a biometric identifier (such as the fingerprint or handprint of the alien) that is machine readable and (B) an alien presenting a border crossing identification is not permitted to cross over the border into the United States unless the biometric identifier contained on the card matches the appropriate biometric characteristic of the alien. 1/

    (7) The term "clerk of court" means a clerk of a naturalization court.

    ( The terms "Commissioner" and "Deputy Commissioner" mean the Commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization and a Deputy Commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization, respectively.

    (9) The term "consular officer" means any consular, diplomatic, or other officer 1a/ or employee of the United States designated under regulations prescribed under authority contained in this Act, for the purpose of issuing immigrant or nonimmigrant visas 1a/ or, when used in title III, for the purpose of adjudicating nationality.

    (10) The term "crewman" means a person serving in any capacity on board a vessel or aircraft.

    (11) The term "diplomatic visa" means a nonimmigrant visa bearing that title and issued to a nonimmigrant in accordance with such regulations as the Secretary of State may prescribe.

    (12) The term "doctrine" includes, but is not limited to, policies, practices, purposes, aims, or procedures.

    (13) 2/ (A) The terms "admission" and "admitted" mean, with respect to an alien, the lawful entry of the alien into the United States after inspection and authorization by an immigration officer.

    (B) An alien who is paroled under section 212(d)(5) or permitted to land temporarily as an alien crewman shall not be considered to have been admitted.

    (C) An alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States shall not be regarded as seeking an admission into the United States for purposes of the immigration laws unless the alien-

    (i) has abandoned or relinquished that status,

    (ii) has been absent from the United States for a continuous period in excess of 180 days,

    (iii) has engaged in illegal activity after having departed the United States,

    (iv) has departed from the United States while under legal process seeking removal of the alien from the United States, including removal proceedings under this Act and extradition proceedings,

    (v) has committed an offense identified in section 212(a)(2), unless since such offense the alien has been granted relief under section 212(h) or 240A(a), or

    (vi) is attempting to enter at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers or has not been admitted to the United States after inspection and authorization by an immigration officer.


    (14) The term "foreign state" includes outlying possessions of a foreign state, but self-governing dominions and territories under mandate or trusteeship shall be regarded as separate foreign states.

    (15) The term "immigrant" means every alien except an alien who is within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens

    (A) (i) an ambassador, public minister, or career diplomatic or consular officer who has been accredited by a foreign government recognized de jure by the United States and who is accepted by the President or by the Secretary of State, and the members of the alien's immediate family;

    (ii) upon a basis of reciprocity, other officials and employees who have been accredited by a foreign government recognized de jure by the United States, who are accepted by the Secretary of State, and the members of their immediate families; and


    (iii) upon a basis of reciprocity, attendants, servants, personal employees, and members of their immediate families, of the officials and employees who have a nonimmigrant status under (i) and (ii) above;


    (B) an alien (other than one coming for the purpose of study or of performing skilled or unskilled labor or as a representative of foreign press, radio, film, or other foreign information media coming to engage in such vocation) having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning and who is visiting the United States temporarily for business or temporarily for pleasure;

    (C) an alien in immediate and continuous transit through the United States, or an alien who qualifies as a person entitled to pass in transit to and from the United Nations Headquarters District and foreign countries, under the provisions of paragraphs (3), (4), and (5) of section 11 of the Headquarters Agreement with the United Nations (61 Stat. 75;

    (D) (i) an alien crewman serving in good faith as such in a capacity required for normal operation and service on board a vessel, as defined in section 258(a) (other than a fishing vessel having its home port or an operating base in the United States), or aircraft, who intends to land temporarily and solely in pursuit of his calling as a crewman and to depart from the United States with the vessel or aircraft on which he arrived or some other vessel or aircraft;

    (ii) an alien crewman serving in good faith as such in any capacity required for normal operations and service aboard a fishing vessel having its home port or an operating base in the United States who intends to land temporarily in Guam and solely in pursuit of his calling as a crewman and to depart from Guam with the vessel on which he arrived;

    (E) an alien entitled to enter the United States under and in pursuance of the provisions of a treaty of commerce and navigation between the United States and the foreign state of which he is a national, and the spouse and children of any such alien if accompanying or following to join him:

    (i) solely to carry on substantial trade, including trade in services or trade in technology, principally between the United States and the foreign state of which he is a national; 21/


    (ii) solely to develop and direct the operations of an enterprise in which he has invested, or of an enterprise in which he is actively in the process of investing, a substantial amount of capital; or


    (iii) 21/ solely to perform services in a specialty occupation in the United States if the alien is a national of the Commonwealth of Australia and with respect to whom the Secretary of Labor determines and certifies to the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State that the intending employer has filed with the Secretary of Labor an attestation under section 212(t)(1) ;


    (F) (i) 3/ an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning, who is a bona fide student qualified to pursue a full course of study and who seeks to enter the United States temporarily and solely for the purpose of pursuing such a course of study consistent with section 214(l) at an established college, university, seminary, conservatory, academic high school, elementary school, or other academic institution or in a language training program in the United States, particularly designated by him and approved by the Attorney General after consultation with the Secretary of Education, which institution or place of study shall have agreed to report to the Attorney General the termination of attendance of each nonimmigrant student, and if any such institution of learning or place of s tudy fails to make reports promptly the approval shall be withdrawn,

    (ii) 3d/ the alien spouse and minor children of any alien described in clause (i) if accompanying or following to join such an alien, and


    (iii) 3d/ an alien who is a national of Canada or Mexico, who maintains actual residence and place of abode in the country of nationality, who is described in clause (i) except that the alien's qualifications for and actual course of study may be full or part-time, and who commutes to the United States institution or place of study from Canada or Mexico;


    (G) (i) a designated principal resident representative of a foreign government recognized de jure by the United States, which foreign government is a member of an international organization entitled to enjoy privileges, exemptions, and immunities as an international organization under the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669) 22 U.S.C. 288, note, accredited resident members of the staff of such representatives, and members of his or their immediate family;

    (ii) other accredited representatives of such a foreign government to such international organizations, and the members of their immediate families;

    (iii) an alien able to qualify under (i) or (ii) above except for the fact that the government of which such alien is an accredited representative is not recognized de jure by the United States, or that the government of which he is an accredited representative is not a member of such international organization, and the members of his immediate family;

    (iv) officers, or employees of such international organizations, and the members of their immediate families;

    (v) attendants, servants, and personal employees of any such representative, officer, or employee, and the members of the immediate families of such attendants, servants, and personal employees;


    (H) an alien (i) 3a/ 3b/ (b) subject to section 212(j)(2) , who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform services (other than services described in subclause (a) during the period in which such subclause applies and other than services described in subclause (ii)(a) or in subparagraph (O) or (P)) in a specialty occupation described in section 214(i)(1) or as a fashion model, who meets the requirements for the occupation specified in section 214(i)(2) or, in the case of a fashion model, is of distinguished merit and ability, and with respect to whom the Secretary of Labor determines and certifies to the Attorney General that the intending employer has filed with the Secretary an application under section 3b/ 212(n)(1) , or (b1) who is entitled to enter the United States under and in pursuance of the provisions of an agreement listed in section 214(g)((A) , who is engaged in a specialty occupation described in section 214(i)(3) , and with respect to whom the Secretary of Labor determines and certifies to the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State that the intending employer has filed with the Secretary of Labor an attestation under section 212(t)(1) , or (c) 3b/ who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform services as a registered nurse, who meets the qualifications described in section 212(m)(1) , and with respect to whom the Secretary of Labor determines and certifies to the Attorney General that an unexpired attestation is on file and in effect under section 212(m)(2) for the facility (as defined in section 212(m)(6) ) for which the alien will perform the services; or


    (ii) (a) having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform agricultural labor or services, as defined by the Secretary of Labor in regulations and including agricultural labor defined in section 3121(g) of 3bbb/ the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, agriculture as defined in section 3(f) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 203(f)), and the pressing of apples for cider on a farm, of a temporary or seasonal nature, or


    (b) having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform other temporary service or labor if unemployed persons capable of performing such service or labor cannot be found in this country, but this clause shall not apply to graduates of medical schools coming to the United States to perform services as members of the medical profession; or


    (iii) having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning who is coming temporarily to the United States as a trainee, other than to receive graduate medical education or training, in a training program that is not designed primarily to provide productive employment; and the alien spouse and minor children of any such alien specified in this paragraph if accompanying him or following to join him;

    (I) upon a basis of reciprocity, an alien who is a bona fide representative of foreign press, radio, film, or other foreign information media, who seeks to enter the United States solely to engage in such vocation, and the spouse and children of such a representative if accompanying or following to join him;

    (J) an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning who is a bona fide student, scholar, trainee, teacher, professor, research assistant, specialist, or leader in a field of specialized knowledge or skill, or other person of similar description, who is coming temporarily to the United States as a participant in a program designated by the Director of the United States Information Agency, for the purpose of teaching, instructing or lecturing, studying, obser ving, conducting research, consulting, demonstrating special skills, or receiving training and who, if he is coming to the United States to participate in a program under which he will receive graduate medical education or training, also meets the requirements of section 212(j), and the alien spouse and minor children of any such alien if accompanying him or following to join him;


    (K) 3bb/ subject to subsections (d) and (p) of section 214, an alien who--


    (i) is the fiancee or fiance of a citizen of the United States 3bb/ (other than a citizen described in section 204(a)(1)(A)(viii)(I) ) and who seeks to enter the United States solely to conclude a valid marriage with the petitioner within ninety days after admission;


    (ii) has concluded a valid marriage with a citizen of the United States 3bb/ (other than a citizen described in section 204(a)(1)(A)(viii)(I) ) who is the petitioner, is the beneficiary of a petition to accord a status under section 201(b)(2)(A)(i) that was filed under section 204 by the petitioner, and seeks to enter the United States to await the approval of such petition and the availability to the alien of an immigrant visa; or


    (iii) is the minor child of an alien described in clause (i) or (ii) and is accompanying, or following to join, the alien;

    (L) 3c/ subject to section 214(c)(2), an alien who, within 3 years preceding the time of his application for admission into the United States, has been employed continuously for one year by a firm or corporation or other legal entity or an affiliate or subsidiary thereof and who seeks to enter the United States temporarily in order to continue to render his services to the same employer or a subsidiary or affiliate thereof in a capacity that is managerial, executive, or involves specialized knowledge, and the alie n spouse and minor children of any such alien if accompanying him or following to join him;



    (M) (i) an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning who seeks to enter the United States temporarily and solely for the purpose of pursuing a full course of study at an established vocational or other recognized nonacademic institution (other than in a language training program) in the United States particularly designated by him and approved by the Attorney General, after consultation with the Secretary of Education, which institution shall have agreed to report to the Attorney General the termination of attendance of each nonimmigrant nonacademic student and if any such institution fails to make reports promptly the approval shall be withdrawn,


    (ii) 3d/ the alien spouse and minor children of any alien described in clause (i) if accompanying or following to join such an alien, and

    (iii) 3d/ an alien who is a national of Canada or Mexico, who maintains actual residence and place of abode in the country of nationality, who is described in clause (i) except that the alien's course of study may be full or part-time, and who commutes to the United States institution or place of study from Canada or Mexico;


    (N) (i) the parent of an alien accorded the status of special immigrant under paragraph (27)(I)(i) 4/ (or under analogous authority under paragraph (27)(L)), but only if and while the alien is a child, or


    (ii) a child of such parent or of an alien accorded the status of a special immigrant under clause (ii), (iii), or (iv) of paragraph (27)(I) 4/ (or under analogous authority under paragraph (27)(L));


    (O) an alien who:

    (i) has extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics which has been demonstrated by sustained national or international acclaim or, with regard to motion picture and television productions a demonstrated record of extraordinary achievement, and whose achievements have been recognized in the field through extensive documentation, and seeks to enter the United States to continue work in the area of extraordinary ability; or


    (ii)(I) seeks to enter the United States temporarily and solely for the purpose of accompanying and assisting in the artistic or athletic performance by an alien who is admitted under clause (i) for a specific event or events,


    (II) is an integral part of such actual performance,


    (III)(a) has critical skills and experience with such alien which are not of a general nature and which cannot be performed by other individuals, or


    (b) in the case of a motion picture or television production, has skills and experience with such alien which are not of a general nature and which are critical either based on a pre-existing long-standing working relationship or, with respect to the specific production, because significant production (including pre- and post-production work) will take place both inside and outside the United States and the continuing participation of the alien is essential to the successful completion of the production, and

    (IV) has a foreign residence which the alien has no intention of abandoning; or

    (iii) is the alien spouse or child of an alien described in clause (i) or (ii) and is accompanying, or following to join, the alien;
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    maybe if Corp America would stop funding them . They maybe then couldn't afford such spinning attorneys to write that crap !
    I have watched those kind loving illegals cuss us like dogs during peaceful marches .
    You are Illegals . Go back to Mexico . You have no rights here !
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    there are no failed immigration policies ,only failure to enforce them.We could add to them like require all businesses to use E-verify -Remember when they say failed immigration policy they mean policies like raiding work places,deporting people and not allowing drivers licenses.Do not be fooled for a minute into thinking they want any border enforcement-THIS IS ALSO AMNESTY FOR EMPLOYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    And, the new fangled parsing or interpreting of immigration terminology yields additional 'hate speech' by such notable music performers as Sting, and Phil Collins:

    (ie. Song "Illegal Alien")
    http://www.last.fm/music/Phil+Collins/_/Illegal+Alien

    (reference to "Legal Alien" in Englishman in New York)
    http://www.mp3lyrics.org/s/sting/englis ... -new-york/

    ...Riiiiiiggghht
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    No no PhredE...they only have a problem if we call them ILLEGAL aliens. Calling them LEGAL aliens is ok.
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    Ok, my head is spinning. I stand corrected (thanks )
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    [quote]Addressing the National Press Club last month, NCLR President Janet Murguia pointed out a need to control free speech when it becomes hate speech. “Everyone knows there is a line sometimes that can be crossed when it comes to free speech. And when free speech transforms into hate speech, we’ve got to draw that line. And that’s what we’re doing here today. And we need to make sure that network executives will hold their people accountable and not cross that line.â€
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    Can someone explain?

    Can La Raza (or anyone else) explain to me how using hateful rhetoric is, in any way, useful in extinguishing other "perceived" hateful rhetoric?

    Illegal alien is hateful to THEM, but not to a majority of Americans. How about Mexico's perception of blacks on their postage stamps? Does La Raza care to comment on how blatantly racist that is?

    And why should we use "undocumented immigrant"? Are ANY of them really without documents? Sure, they're all forged, stolen, or otherwise fraudulent, but they do have them.

    Their argument is simply one of heightened hypocritical folly. They're basically saying, "How dare you call anyone illegal you racist, xenophobic hate monger!"

    If they're looking to extinguish hate, it goes both ways. Whatever happened to leading by example? With their examples of acceptable rhetoric towards us aren't they only justifying our use of "illegal alien"?

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