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    Why Are Illegal Aliens on U.S. Welfare?

    Why Are Illegal Aliens on U.S. Welfare?
    May 8, 2009


    Some people mistakenly think that immigrants are not eligible for welfare. Several years ago, Congress did attempt to render immigrants ineligible for most forms of welfare. However, subsequent backpedaling by Congress and the executive branch has undone most of those reforms. Furthermore, many immigrant families get welfare through the eligibility of their U.S. citizen children. (It is also important to realize that even when immigrants are ineligible for federal welfare programs, the burden of their support is simply shifted over to the state and local welfare agencies.)

    Refugees, asylees, and all amnestied illegal aliens are exempt from the public charge requirement.3 Congress has decided that the American people will serve as the sponsors for these immigrants and pick up the tab for their support.

    All other immigrants must pass a public charge test and have a U.S. sponsor or sponsors willing to pledge their income to support them. Before a potential immigrant receives an immigration visa, American consular officers are supposed to evaluate whether he or she is likely to become a public charge, and, if so, to deny the visa. The consular officer is supposed to take into account a variety of factors: the amount of support the sponsor can give, the resources and skills of the applicant, and any special conditions (such as age or infirmity) that might affect the applicant's need for support. The Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 set the new legal standard for the evaluation: the sponsor of the applicant must have an annual income of at least 125 percent of the federally designated poverty level. There are several problems with this standard:

    The sponsorship income level, only 25 percent higher than the poverty level, is so low that it does not prevent immigrants from going on welfare; in fact, it almost guarantees it. Say a sponsor begins with an income of 200 percent of poverty level and is, therefore, not considered "legally poor." But after splitting that income with the immigrant, each will be at 100 percent of the poverty level. Where before we had one non-poor person, now we have two poor people. Since eligibility for some welfare programs kicks in before one's income drops to 125 percent of poverty level, immigrants can easily wind up on welfare.
    While immigrants who receive welfare can be deported for violating the conditions under which they were admitted, this provision is rarely enforced; in fact, only twelve people have been deported under this provision since 1980.4 Administrative rulings have held that an immigrant cannot be held responsible for receiving welfare unless the welfare agencies have sent the immigrant a bill for their services, demanded payment, and been refused payment.5 Since welfare agencies do not do this, it is virtually impossible for an immigrant to be charged with violating the public charge provisions that can lead to deportation.

    Furthermore, numerous forms of welfare are not considered under the public charge test, including food stamps, pre-natal care, nutrition programs, housing assistance, energy assistance, job training programs, child care services, free or reduced school lunch, public shelters, health clinics, Medicaid, and any cash welfare programs that are not the family's sole source of income.6 This insulates immigrants from being considered public charges unless they are completely dependent on welfare.


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    I sort of figure that it is because the globalist are driven very much by greed.

    I think they have continued to operate the same way it is said they got a foot hold into this country. They own the politicians.

    Instead of actually spending their own money to get things done they have criminals in office handle things for them.

    In this case their politicians aid and abet the illegal aliens and see to it they get copious hand outs. We don't have any money so we borrow it from the Federal Reserve banks.

    In most cases it is a win, win, sort of situation for the banks. They get what they want done, like control of a country so their businesses can install a pipe line, or what ever, plus instead of getting themselves killed they also collect all of the interest on the money that is loaned out. (Our Own Fiat Money! )

    All of those billions in interest go outside of our country. I think they find there way into all of those global groups that are always pulling our chains.

    I think no matter what we want to do with our real money and real assets if they want to subvert our efforts they can see to it that the printing presses roll and the fiat currency will roll out and out spend us at every turn.

    Take global warming. They seem to have decided it is their best interest for their carbon credit scheme that global warming be excepted by the masses. Regardless if what is right or wrong they are able to see to it that the people that support their position get unlimited funding.

    A group scientist recently got together to discuss the pro's and con's. They had to pay all of their own expenses. The globalist world meeting for their side had all expenses paid sort of things going on.

    Oh, and they also had the globalist media to cover it with their bogeyman reports!


    P.S. I meet the relative of one of our HB-visa people. At least I think he was. Anyway he had a visa that was for six months. The Social Security office told him he had to be here six months to qualify. He felt he was being ripped off! He had never even worked here. I ask him if I was in his country if they would be giving me money. He scoffed at me like was I kidding and some sort of idiot or something as he walked off. I'm not sure if he overstayed or not. I do know that the way things look here there is very little follow up on that sort of thing.

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