Thread: Why Illegals Are Here and Why They Stay

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Why Illegals Are Here
And Why They Stay
By Frosty Wooldridge
2-1-8

In this third and final interview, Michael Folkerth's book: "THE BIGGEST LIE EVER BELIEVED" exposes America's greatest crisis-unending growth.

Trying to corner Clinton, Obama, Romney and McCain into addressing America's immigration invasion proves harder than arm wrestling an octopus! Trying to get our apathetic American public to force definitive answers from this presidential quartet proves tougher than bringing an Egyptian mummy back to life.

Once the full impact of adding endless millions of people hits, the devastation to American society will make Hurricane Katrina look like a Sunday picnic. It'll make Mount Saint Helens look like a puff of smoke from Humphrey Bogart's cigarette. It'll make Briteny Spears' life resemble a "Father Knows Best" happy ending. What's the big difference for our entire society? Immigration, both legal and illegal, will create carnage and consequences that affect every state forever.

In other words, before the Titanic hit the iceberg, all seemed well. Once it hit, everything changed for the worst.

Folkerth examines why our corporations demand unending immigration to force-feed growth. "Today we will once more work through the actual root cause of illegal immigration as it relates to the economy," he said. "To avoid having to descend into the dismal science of conventional economics, we'll apply my patented 'Mikeronomics' and take a shortcut to the truth.

"Consumer spending represents two-thirds of our domestic U.S. economy, and is responsible for some 62 percent of the jobs that have thus far, not gone off to China. The necessity of keeping such consumer spending whipped up to a brisk pace is well up in the red zone of the alert scale for those seeking reelection.

"And, since our economy is based on the impossible basis of ever increasing growth, the necessity of adding a few million new consumers to our buyers club from time to time becomes imperative. Here's the rub. The current birthrate in the U.S. doesn't get the consumption job done.

"No problem; we have the I.N.S., often thought to mean Immigration and Naturalization Service, but actually meaning "Instant Necessary Shoppers," which allows 1.2 million foreign folks to join our club each and every year, legally.

"However, with all things ever expanding some years back we reached that unfortunate, but predicable, point where the birthrate and legal immigration combined didn't trip the trigger."

That's when the brilliant, foghorn-leghorn rooster, alcoholic Senator Teddy Kennedy of Massachusetts dumped the 1965 Immigration Reform Act onto the American public. He raised immigration rates from a stable 175,000 annually to 1.1 to 1.5 million. That single bill drove consumption into high gear. Corporations busted unions and wages declined because millions of immigrants moved into the work place to undercut Americans. Soon, illegal aliens followed to work slave wages off the books. Result? Farmers and corporations raked-in unheard-of profits. Our economic engine roared with production, consumption, sales and pollution.

"We also reached the point where the good citizens of this country were reluctant that immigration continued at high numbers," Folkerth said. "Therefore we had a conundrum. Congress doesn't like conundrums. It forced them to either tell the American people that the false economy that they have come to love and enjoy was no longer an option, or let a few thousand illegal immigrants sneak in each night to reinvigorate the activity at the mall.

"Given the above choice and with election coming up, the decision for a person who is desperately seeking reelection becomes quite clear; never face south.

"We have noticed that nearly all politicians have denied the personal knowledge that 12 to 20 million illegals lived and worked our country. I remind you that these are the same politicians who are protecting you from terrorists sneaking into the country.

"If a federal or state politician says he or she didn't know these folks were here, throw the bums out. If they did know it and didn't tell us, throw the bums out.

"They all knew we had illegal immigration because it was encouraged. Allowing thousands of illegal people to invade the U.S. on a daily basis and remain here for years without any measure of enforcement against such activity, is encouragement; plain and simple.

"Imagine a consumption based society that is already teetering on the brink of recession due to a lack of consumer spending. Teetering may not be the correct word when our president and Congress are so desperate for Americans to spend money, that both agree to sending checks out to the good taxpayers (and non-taxpayers) to provide the money for that purpose.

"Continue to imagine that in the middle of this mess, 12 to 20 million of those consumers would leave overnight, due to being deported. Politicians imagine this event occurring all the time; it's called a hideous nightmare.

"Now, given the above information, can you spell a m n e s t y? Your faithful representatives sure can. After all, if there is a fine, it's not amnesty, it's then spelled 'collusion.'

"So what's the answer? Should we just continue to increase population until the whole thing flies into a million pieces? Should we keep on expanding until our natural resources can no longer support us? Or should we work toward a sustainable economy that is not based on ever expanding population growth?

"Unfortunately, it is possible to add millions of people to these United States. However, have you ever seen pictures that exhibit the living conditions of the average people in China and India? A picture is worth a thousand words. That picture may well represent Middle America, just a few years down the road."

To be certain, it's not pretty.

"THE BIGGEST LIE EVER BELIEVED"

Author: Mike Folkerth

Problem is....like China and India....you can have millions and millions of people....but if they don't have the jobs, to make the money, to consume anything........it's nothing but a 3rd world nightmare.

have you ever seen pictures that exhibit the living conditions of the average people in China and India? A picture is worth a thousand words. That picture may well represent Middle America, just a few years down the road."
He!! just come visit my neighborhood...eight Av. in Brooklyn between 39th St. and 65th St..

NYC now has 5 Chinatowns and I'd bet fewer than 25% came here legally.

I saw a disturbing article yesterday about dirt cookies people ate in Haiti. Guess it keeps them going because of the minerals and such in the dirt. It costs too much to get a cup of rice. All of their basic cheapest food has doubled in price because of the corn shortage. ( For ethanol) I remember the footage of China where people crunched up cardboard boxes and mixed it with other garbage to just have something in their stomache. Or the Afghan people eating what grass they could find and dirt.

Seems to me these BRAINS would have enough sense to not have alternative fuel literally take the basic necessities right out of the mouths of the poorest people on this earth. Like to give Gore some mud cookies and see if he thinks they should cut back some more.

I received the following email that needs to be passed around to every citizen. Then we need the Presidential candidates to explain WHY hispanics, or other illegals, are more important than the citizens who put them in office. Both Obama and Clinton voted AGAINST english as the official language of this country and they voted to GIVE our social security to illegal criminals. As suggested at the bottom, forward to your representatives in Washington, DC several times each week. Please pass this on to everyone you know.

WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA?

Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, 'Mexican visitor's lament' -- 10/25/07.

She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, 'They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...what happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?'

That's a good question - it deserves an answer. Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America? The answers may surprise you!

In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupted hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominate language again.

In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grand-kids - would move back 'home,' mostly to Mexico. That would save Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 BIL) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.
Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent drop out/flunk out rate via thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado. Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law and English.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience. If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home' –

If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home,' the U.S. economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401 billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for local state and city coffers.

No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in American schools that now must content with over 100 languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country. In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock.

Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!

Drain on America's economy; taxpayers harmed, employers get rich

Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to their home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.

At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupted out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our greenhouse gases.

Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what the New York Times called, "colonias" or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation. The New York Times reported them to be America's new "Third World" inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.

High integrity, ethical invitation
We invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We invite a million people into our country legally more than all other countries combined annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation

It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of life.

Interesting Statistics
Just in case you missed this the last time around and believe those who say we need to have Illegal Aliens here to work at slave labor wages to help greedy businesses. Don't we have a minimum wage law?

Here's the "Snopes" for doubters: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigrat ... merica.asp

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurlcom/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. ; ;http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, know n as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcriptscnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0 ... dt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
< BR>9. &n bsp;$200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/ ... tation.pdf

13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States!"
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a WHOPPING $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!

If this doesn't bother you, then just delete the message. But, on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it to every human in the country, including every representative in Washington, DC four times a week for a month.

Thank a Veteran for Your Freedom

We are America-- we recovered extremely well after defeating the invaders from England in the 1700s. We recovered from the effects of WW1, WW2, Korea, 'Nam, Desert Storm and we would be recovering from Iraq if we did not have to pay so much money in ransom to the invaders.(Health, school, welfare and on and on).
Some of their money is spent here in America, after all, they have to eat and be clothed. Billions go back home. Build a bodega and see wheer the illegals spend their money and that will go back home too. Add to the money that gets sent home, the cost of these other benefits they reap at our expense. Then add to that where the money for all the goods imported from China and other countries go. Our politicians are trying to resolve world poverty by taking America's blessings and giving them away.
Stop giving me bull-- the only beneficiaries are the employers who hire thess illegals and pass the burden of supporting their extra cost (Health, etc.) back to the taxpayers. This is theft, this is treason. We need to improve the flow of catching employers red-handed.

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MisterBill wrote

Stop giving me bull-- the only beneficiaries are the employers who hire thess illegals and pass the burden of supporting their extra cost (Health, etc.) back to the taxpayers. This is theft, this is treason. We need to improve the flow of catching employers red-handed.

Couldn't agree more. Those who hire illegal aliens are just as at fault as our stinkin President for this mess.