Thread: Why the Kennedy-McCain sham will destroy America

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The Hidden Dangers of McKennedy:
Why the Kennedy-McCain Amnesty Bill Will Destroy America

The Capitol Hill Club, literally steps from the U.S. Capitol in Washington D.C., is a popular venue for members of Congress to address special interests concerning their legislative views. On June 20, 2005, Senator John McCain spoke at the Club to a meeting of the American League of Lobbyists, promoting the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, S. 1033, better known as the Kennedy-McCain bill after its two principal sponsors. During question time, FAIR staff attorney Mike Hethmon challenged the Senator to name any successful guest worker program anywhere in the world, because FAIR was unaware of any such program anywhere that improved economic conditions for domestic workers and resulted in the guest workers returning to their home country upon completion of their work contracts in the receiving country. The Senator hemmed and hawed, and then stated that he would debate FAIR on the merits of the Kennedy-McCain plan “anywhere, anytime, and in a respectful manner.�

What Makes John McCain Run?

Senator McCain has since refused to talk about his promise to defend his immigration proposals to the American public. The Senator’s “fear of FAIR� can’t be due to distaste for vigorous public debate, as he is one of America’s most prominent orators. So what makes John McCain (and Ted Kennedy) run? Answer: McCain doesn’t want the public to understand how horrific S.1033 really is.

Amnesty Legislation on a Massive, Historically Unprecedented Scale

If enacted, S.1033 would be amnesty legislation on a massive, historically unprecedented scale. America faces an immigration crisis today because all previous amnesties have failed to stop and actually encouraged greater levels of illegal immigration. S.1033 incorporates the worst features of every failed amnesty program since 1986, but in numbers greater than all the illegal and legal aliens who entered the U.S. in the past fifteen years combined.

The Iron Law of Chain Migration

The primary reason amnesty programs always fail is that they fuel, rather than choke off, both illegal and legal immigration. This is the “iron law of chain migration.� The worldwide population of foreigners who would promptly move to the U.S. if given the chance is today over a billion human beings. In other words, the demand for immigrant visas is virtually unlimited. Since preferential eligibility for an immigrant visa is based on family ties to a citizen or legal permanent resident, the number of derivative relatives each immigrant alien cohort can sponsor increases geometrically, as most aliens sponsor the extended family members of both the alien and his spouse.

In addition, if the waiting period required to admit a derivative relative is reduced (or in the case of illegal alien amnesty, eliminated) the rate of geometric increase speeds up, compressing or eliminating the time period of each immigrant “generation.� Any increase or improvement in processing visa applications has a similar surge effect. As a corollary effect, chain migration also accelerates the rate at which recent immigrants import spouses from the home country, rather than marry U.S. citizens.

S.1033 would both massively increase the numbers of aliens immediately eligible for permanent immigrant status, and significantly reduce the existing waiting time between applying for a visa in the home country and becoming a U.S. citizen, able to sponsor the widest range of derivative relatives.

H-5B Amnesties

The initial phase of the S.1033 amnesty program, the “H-5B visa program,� would work essentially like the 1986 amnesty for farm workers, the notorious Special Agricultural Worker (SAW) program. SAW is considered by experts to be perhaps the most fraud-ridden program enacted by Congress in the 20th century.

S.1033 also incorporates the DREAM amnesty, by making illegal aliens under 21 years of age with no work history eligible, as long as they are enrolled in a secondary school or college, very loosely defined.

As a rough estimate, about 10 million illegal aliens would be immediately eligible to apply for an H-5B visa, as adults who are employed full or part-time, or self-employed, high school or college students under 21, and their spouses and children present in the United States, including ex-spouses and their dependents where “domestic violence� was a factor in separation.

H-5B Fraud and Waiver Beneficiaries

Even assuming for the sake of argument the highly unlikely scenario that the Kennedy-McCain amnesty programs would experience lower levels of fraud and abuse than previous amnesties, it would be conservative to estimate that a half-million other criminal aliens would be ineligible for a H-5B visa because of crimes they have committed. However, the rigid confidentiality provisions and weak documentation standards carried over from the SAW program would, as in the 1986 amnesty, make it difficult to detect ineligible criminal applicants. The slipshod screening of amnesty applicants under S.1033 could also attract immigrant visa applicants waiting in line abroad to fraudulently apply for an H-5B visa, as a much faster route to a green card. Even if fraud were detected, the “212(i)� waiver for fraud and misrepresentation would be expanded by S.1033, and the unlawful presence bar to admission would be eliminated for all aliens aged 18-21 and waived for illegal aliens present in the U.S. over 180 days, including previously deported aliens. A reasonable rough estimate of the illegal aliens who would probably obtain legal status under these loopholes would be at least 500,000.

H-5B Derivative Immediate Relatives

Those H-5B aliens in turn would be able to immediately petition for spouses and children living outside the U.S. (estimated at a 1:1 ratio), for a rough total of 21 million estimated immediate beneficiaries within four years of implementation.

The second phase of the H-5B amnesty program, adjustment to permanent legal alien status, would operate like the discredited 245(i) rolling amnesty of the late 1990s. H-5B visa holders would pay a $1000 “penalty� to obtain a green card. With employer sponsorship, the second phase would begin immediately, but all H-5B beneficiaries would become eligible after 4 years in the program.

Elimination of Immediate Relatives from Family-Based Visa Cap

With their new green cards, adjustment-phase beneficiaries would be able to begin sponsoring members of their extended families for immigrant visas. S.1033 Title VI provides for a very large increase in the numbers and kinds of derivative relatives of illegal aliens eligible to enter the U.S. as immigrants. Immediate relatives (spouses, minor children and parents) of US citizens and most parolees would be removed from counting against the ceiling for family-based immigrant visas, and the definition of immediate relatives, who are exempt from any visa limits, is expanded to include the children of children (i.e. grandchildren), children of spouses (i.e., step-children), and children of parents (i.e., siblings) of U.S. citizens.

These provisions would free up at least 400,000 new family preference immigrant visas per year, and could easily double the number of admitted derivative relatives, to 800,000 additional immigrants per year, supplemented by a pool of unused immigrant visa numbers from prior years. For example, a U.S. citizen will be able to sponsor for immediate entry, outside of any limits, all of the U.S. citizen’s siblings, grandchildren, spouses’ children by prior marriage, etc. When those family-sponsored relatives arrive, as immediate permanent residents, they will be able to immediately apply to bring in additional family members, spouses, and children.

Eliminate Special Immigrant Journalist and NACARA Amnesty Caps

Caps on admissions of “special immigrant� journalists and NACARA amnesty beneficiaries would be lifted, adding, with following “chain-linked� relatives, another 5,000 or so new entries per year.

More than Double Employment-Based Immigrant Visas

Employment based permanent immigrant visas would be more than doubled by S. 1033, increasing by 150,000 per year, plus a pool of about 240,000 unused visas from years prior to 2005.

Allow Immigrant Sponsorship by U.S. Citizens with Poverty-Level Incomes

In addition to these massive increases in immigrant numbers, limitations on the entry of aliens would be rolled back, by allowing persons to become immigrant sponsors who were previously ineligible because they, themselves, had poverty-level incomes.

H-5A ‘Essential Worker’ Guest Worker Visas

It is important to remember that these shockingly large numbers of amnestied aliens and additional immigrants do not include the additional 400,000 H-5A “Essential Worker� visas in a new guest worker program that would be authorized by S.1033 Title III.

Aliens would be able to enter the U.S. to take a job in any occupational classification except those reserved for H-1B (white-collar workers), H-2A (farm workers), L (managers and executives), P (performing artists) and R (religious worker) visa-holders. Aliens who have been deported from the U.S., with the exception of convicted felons and terrorists (but expressly including alien smugglers, prostitutes, pimps, and unlawful voters and immigration law violators in general) would be eligible to apply for a waiver. These aliens could accept a job with any sponsoring employer, but have full mobility to change jobs during the three years their visas remained valid. Depending on first year demand, the number of available visas can increase up to 20% (80,000 visas) each subsequent year, but can only decrease by 10%, starting in the third year of the H-5A program.

H-5A Guest Worker Derivative Immediate Relative Visas

Each H-5A worker could sponsor a spouse and children. Assuming a rough 1:1 ratio, the number of new H-5A immigrants would be at a minimum 800,000 per year.

Aliens in the H-5A program could apply for a green card at any time with employer sponsorship, and renew their work authorization indefinitely until the green card is issued. The alien could apply for permanent residence (green card) without sponsorship after 4 years.

No U.S. Worker Job Protections

There are no protections for U.S. workers in S. 1033. The H-5A employer would merely “post� a 30-day job announcement with the federal labor exchange program for the positions for which hiring an H-5A worker is proposed. There are no requirements to hire a U.S. worker before hiring a foreign worker, and no protections against displacement of U.S. workers by H-5A or H-5B aliens.

Huge annual and cumulative increases in U.S. non-citizen population

A conservative rough-magnitude tally of the additional amnestied or legal immigrants authorized by S.1033 is 36.5 million new permanent residents after eight years, based on the following calculation:

S.1033 Programs


Number of New Immigrants


Total




1st 4 years


2nd 4 Years




H-5B Amnesty


10,000,000


100,000


10,100,000

H-5B Fraud & Waivers


500,000


100,000


600,000

H-5B Derivative Relatives


10,500,000


1,000,000


11,500,000












Immediate Relatives


1,600,000


1,600,000


3,200,000

Family Preference Visas


1,600,000


1,600,000


3,200,000












Spec. Immigrant & NACARA


20,000


20,000


40,000












Employment Based Visas


600,000


600,000


1,200,000

FY 01-05 Unused Visas


240,000





240,000












H-5A Guest workers


1,600,000


1,600,000


3,200,000

H-5A Derivative Relatives


1,600,000


1,600,000


3,200,000












Total


28,260,000


8,220,000


36,480,000

This total identifies the incremental immigration authorized by S. 1033, and is in addition to existing levels of legal or illegal immigration.

Clearly, the promise of “backlog reduction� in waiting periods for law-abiding applicants for legal immigration is a mirage. With every “improvement� in the rate at which an alien is processed through the immigration and naturalization pipeline, the number of newly eligible aliens submitting applications increases geometrically. Second, experience shows that some extended family members of a new immigrant cohort will not wait abroad for an eventual visa, and will instead enter illegally.

Moreover, there is good reason to believe that actual totals would be significantly higher. For example, chain migration effects in the immediate relative category could easily increase the admission rate based on the expanded definitions in S.1033 by 10 percent during 5 of the 8 years after enactment, producing a 244,000 increase in the immediate relative admissions, at an ultimate rate of 644,000 additional admissions per year. Strong demand for H-5A guest worker visas, for example reaching the annual visa cap during the first quarter for 5 of the 8 years after enactment, would open up 600,000 more new guest worker visas, fueling an H-5A worker entry rate of nearly 1 million per year, and accompanied by a corresponding additional 600,000 derivative relatives.
What Will Follow: H-5A-Style Farm Worker and Skilled Worker Programs

Most importantly, S.1033 does not include an agricultural guest worker provision, and discriminates against highly skilled legal immigrants by imposing more onerous conditions for visa application and adjustment of status. This is an obvious invitation for political pressure to “correct� these “unfair� omissions, and expand H-5A type programs to farm workers and H-1B white collar workers, completing the massive attack on the U.S. domestic workforce.

With practically unlimited availability of foreign candidates for most U.S. jobs, S.1033 will force employers into an accelerated “race to the bottom� in wages and working conditions for domestic American workers, devastating working and middle class communities in every state of the Union.

It's the end of the Free World.

Because it is the End of US.

There are already 50,000,000 illegal aliens in the US.

Now add incrementally the legalization of new immigrants under McCain Kennedy every single year.

There will not be enough food, water, housing, space, highways, schools, utilities or hospitals for this population size in the US without a Welfare State. The government will not be able to maintain order without Martial Law.

And if won't be the immigrants they're locking up.

It with be US.

And they have Patriot Act I and II all set to go for that Big Moment.

DON'T SPEND, SAVE!!

Activate: "All I Want for Christmas Is My Country Back"!

BUT...

Unless your background is purely native american, I would say you come from an immigrant family yourself. Isn't this the basis of this great country of ours, the so called land of the free? To offer a better life to those who seek it? Why was it fair for our ancestor to have come here seeking a better life for themselves and their children but it's not ok for the immigrants of today? Why have we forgotten this so quickly?

The original message had great points, validaded and all but it was biased (obviously), it did not look on the other side of the track. The second message on this board was just plain uneducated... the dude needs to get out of the bubble...

Now let's assume for an instant that there were no current immigrants in the US... just those who were generations upon generation Americans. Answer me this... who would be doing the dirty jobs? U? Me? I don't think so... Would you work for a lousy minimum wage or slightly above that? Would you work 60+ hrs a week under aweful conditions? No? Me neither... who would be crazy enough to do that? Oh yeah IMMIGRANTS would... those who are just like our immigrant ancenstors... who worked their ASS off to give their children a better future... there's no difference there... that's all these people want... a better life.

YES, the country does seem to be over populated as it is... but then again, I see it that way because I live in the metropolitan area... have you taken a drive in Arkansas? Pennsylvania? Texas? There's NOTHING there... there's land and that's all there is... most people in these area don't have computers, nevermind the internet... they farm, they lead a slow and simple life unaware of our crazy and busy lifestyle.

Listen I think this new law is a good thing, YES once again, you are right bout people wanting to take advantage of this law... I clearly agree with you... but hey we're humans... offer us the finger and we'll take the hand and please don't tell me you're any different... well unless you're not human!

There are MANY of those here who want to work their ass off, live like fleas pilled on top of one another (as many as 8-10 in one room) just so they save money. These individuals do not care about our country... they would spit on it if they could... they're here for the money... they dirty our streets, break everything in site and when they gather enough money, they return to their paradise and live happy ever after... that is, until the money runs out and they have to come back here... by any means necessary. THESE KIND OF INDIVIDUALS are the enemies, are the ones who should not be allowed to stay in this country. Agree? Well, this law is trying to nip that in the butt... think about it... the law requires them to work, pay taxes and live as Americans... how great is that? Anyone who does not... won't be eligible. This gives those who are seeking better lives for their upcoming generations, a chance to really show this great country that they are willing to leave their lives behind and start a new one, a better one that will benefit not only themselves but this country.

These immigrants won't be taking your job or mine, they won't become doctors, teachers, designers overnight... they will keep at what they do... making our world go around.

You're worried about the US spending too much money on this, your focus is on the wrong issue... and we're DEFINITELY not going there.

AND one last thing... There aren't any illegal immigrants on welfare... haha take a good look at what's happening there.

Most of the immigrants that came to America in the last 100 or so years came legally (if you take out what has happened in the last 10-15 years)

We are a nation of LEGAL immigrants.

Where did we get people like this that are so messed up in the head that they support lawless invaders to come and rape and pilliage America with no respect for our laws or citizens?

W

Now let's assume for an instant that there were no current immigrants in the US... just those who were generations upon generation Americans. Answer me this... who would be doing the dirty jobs? U? Me? I don't think so... Would you work for a lousy minimum wage or slightly above that? Would you work 60+ hrs a week under aweful conditions? No? Me neither... who would be crazy enough to do that? Oh yeah IMMIGRANTS would... those who are just like our immigrant ancenstors... who worked their ASS off to give their children a better future... there's no difference there... that's all these people want... a better life.

"Who would be doing the dirty jobs?" Americans who are doing the dirty jobs, who have always done the dirty jobs. America doesn't need illegal immigrants to do our dirty work.

"Would you work for a lousy minimm wage or slightly above that?" Americans, millions of them, work for minimum wage and slightly above that. They are the ones protected by minimum wage. Americans are the reason we have a minimum wage.

"There's no difference there...that's all these people want...a better life".
So? What does what they want have to do with me, any American, or the United States? They need to tell their own government what they want and about their "better life". Don't tell me about it. Don't tell America about it. Tell someone who gives a hoot.

They need to tell their own government what they want and about their "better life

I agree completely, Judy. There's no reason they can't overthrow their own corrupt governments. By sheer numbers if nothing else!

Now is the time with all this international attention for the people of Mexico to start marching and protesting in Mexico City for more economic development; higher wages; better benefits and a First World Economy. Mexico has everything it needs to be a great country.

I think what valeska78 said is selfish. She only talks about her desires, not based in reality, and doesn't care about what you or I think.

Get real valeska78, like its been said before, the job gets done and they'll find people to do them and how can you favor such an immoral, irrational and illegal way for people to do the dirty work in this country as justifying that illegal labor is a good thing?

Yep....and I think valeska78 is part of the problem not part of the solution.

LOL Too funny. Maybe she just needs a good night sleep.
Maybe she'll make more sense in the morning!