Thread: Mexico launching U.S. offensive for illegal immigrants

Mexico launching U.S. offensive for illegal immigrants
The Dallas Morning News
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 10.04.2007

DALLAS — The Mexican government is giving its consulates in the U.S. more resources and wide latitude to ramp up a campaign to toughen its defense of immigrants, officials said.

The move comes amid record-level deportations and the toughest crackdown in decades by the U.S. government and law enforcement.
Among the actions under discussion are the creation of an anti-defamation league similar to that focused on protecting Jews; budget increases for some of the 47 consulates — especially in regions where illegal Mexican migration has been swift and plentiful; and a media campaign aimed at counteracting groups opposed to illegal immigration.
The effort underscores the tension in U.S. communities grappling with problems created by illegal immigration. And it is sure to further incense groups already demanding a crackdown on immigration, both legal and illegal.

Jean Towell, the president of Dallas-based Citizens for Immigration Reform, called the move "arrogant," saying that the Mexican government does not "have the right to meddle in our affairs."

"They have come out before saying it is wrong for us to meddle in Mexico's affairs," she said. "They are losing human capital. It would be better if they provided the right kind of incentives to keep their people there. It is a no-brainer."

Mexican government officials gave few additional details about the plan but said it would cover 11 million first-generation nationals, half of whom live in an "irregular migratory situation."

Mark Krikorian, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, said the plan "is guaranteed to backfire."

"They may feel that if they want an amnesty, they have to try," he said. But "they are going to be directly engaging in American politics. That is something American consuls would be deported for."
Krikorian said he was surprised by the new approach because Mexico's current U.S. ambassador, Arturo Sarukkhan, usually chooses his words so carefully.

Nearly two dozen U.S.-based immigrant leaders flew to Mexico City recently to meet with senior officials of the Foreign Ministry and the Interior Ministry to discuss the strategy. The Foreign Ministry and its Institute for Mexicans Abroad, or IME, is carrying out the government's plan.

"Bridges of understanding"

Mario Ramirez, a Dallas businessman and Mexican immigrant who attended the meeting, said he knows his loyalty to the U.S., as a naturalized citizen, will be questioned.

But "as descendants of Mexicans and citizens of the United States, we feel it is our responsibility to create bridges of understanding because the anti-Mexican mood in the United States is causing us — and both countries — much harm," he said. "What do we have to lose anymore? We've been beaten up to the point that all we can do is fight back . . . Things will get worst before they get better."

Foreign Ministry officials officially called the meeting part of a "strategy" by President Felipe Calderón to "reinforce consultations and communications with organizations dedicated to the defense of the rights of migrants. . . ."

Quiet diplomacy has failed, said those at the Mexico City meeting. As evidence, they pointed to what they call the "venomous" debate over illegal immigration and the death of legislation this summer to overhaul U.S. immigration laws.

"There is a sense that nothing will happen in the next two years in the U.S. Congress so Mexican immigrants are determined to keep the issue alive and defend themselves with efforts like funding their own anti-defamation league," said Andres Rozental, a former Mexican ambassador and private consultant. "That in itself is quite an impressive statement."

The Mexico City meeting took place Sept. 15, the start of Mexico's Independence Day festivities. Hours later, at the National Palace, President Calderón gave the traditional grito of independence from Spain. Revelers in Dallas viewed a taped message in which Calderón boldly expressed his disappointment over the "lack of political good will" that led to the failure of an immigration overhaul.

The tension created by Congress' failure to overhaul a broken immigration system is evident in cities across the country — where local and state governments are taking it upon themselves to address problems created by illegal immigration.
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They will send more money here to the US to help keep their poor here in our country, but they won't use that same money to keep their citizens in their own country.

Mexican government officials gave few additional details about the plan but said it would cover 11 million first-generation nationals, half of whom live in an "irregular migratory situation."

These are probably the prior illegals who received amnesty the last time. We sure don't want anymore of that.

Revelers in Dallas viewed a taped message in which Calderón boldly expressed his disappointment over the "lack of political good will" that led to the failure of an immigration overhaul.

I just feel soooooo bad for Mr. Calderon ...he can't seem to understand that this is the USA not Mexico and his people are lawbreakers. How about working for some "political good will" with your own people in Mexico.

The effort underscores the tension in U.S. communities grappling with problems created by illegal immigration. And it is sure to further incense groups already demanding a crackdown on immigration, both legal and illegal.

what group is against legal immigration ?




"irregular migratory situation." ?

Nearly two dozen U.S.-based immigrant leaders

who ???
Ive heard nothing of these

The Mexico City meeting took place Sept. 15, the start of Mexico's Independence Day festivities. Hours later, at the National Palace, President Calderón gave the traditional grito of independence from Spain. Revelers in Dallas viewed a taped message in which Calderón boldly expressed his disappointment over the "lack of political good will" that led to the failure of an immigration overhaul.

I thought they did good when they listend to the American people for once

Now truly is the time to dig in and stand our GOUND
They are trying to scare us into stoping the deportaions and we cant let up ...



Am I missing something or
is this real close to a declaration of war ...

They may feel that if they want an amnesty, they have to try," he said. But "they are going to be directly engaging in American politics. That is something American consuls would be deported for."

Deport them...the welcome mat is gone

The U.S. allows consulates in the U.S. to do exactly what for the mexican people? Is there anything written down on paper that says what the mexican consulates can and can not do while here on U.S. soil? That's our first order of business is to find that out. Then our next order should be to decrease the number of mexican consulates in the U.S.

Originally Posted by houston

The U.S. allows consulates in the U.S. to do exactly what for the mexican people? Is there anything written down on paper that says what the mexican consulates can and can not do while here on U.S. soil? That's our first order of business is to find that out. Then our next order should be to decrease the number of mexican consulates in the U.S.

Maybe there's more to NAFTA than we all know! Yea, why all of this allowing the Mexican govt to affect us so much? Why do they feel so embolden? Something stinks.

Originally Posted by houston

The U.S. allows consulates in the U.S. to do exactly what for the mexican people? Is there anything written down on paper that says what the mexican consulates can and can not do while here on U.S. soil? That's our first order of business is to find that out. Then our next order should be to decrease the number of mexican consulates in the U.S.

Here's some information I previously posted on another forum thread several weeks ago. I actually wrote a letter to the Mexican Consulate(Arkansas) in July and got a response back from the Mexican Consular, Andres Chao. The Consulates are claiming their activites are allowed by the Vienna Convention, but if you read the particlular statute they refer to, it doesn't include aiding and abetting their nationals illegally in another country:

There are 48 Mexican Consulates in the U.S. Far, far more than any other country. In my opinion, there are so many because there are 20 - 30 million illegals (of which 80% or more are mexican) here and the Consulates exist mainly for the purpose of aiding and abetting their nationals in the U.S.for two reasons:

1.) the tremendous amount of remittances the illegals send back to Mexico
2.) it is a safety relief valve to remove millions of the poor and uneducated from Mexico and dump them into the U.S. Most, simply, this is because, they won't have to provide for them, but we will.

The actions of the Mexican Consulates has been a long standing irritation of mine that I want to start making noise about with Congress but have been too busy fighting amnesty to date. I am attaching five items, three are links to articles that illustrates how Mexican Consular's aid and abet their invaders and actively interfer with our immigration laws and policies. The other two items are a letter I sent to the Head of the newest Mexican Consular, in Arkansas and his response:

The Mexican Consul General of Dallas interfers with ICE:
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... highlight=

Thanks, Huckabee: Arkansas Mexican consul opposing immigration laws:
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ndres+chao

Consul: Police immigration plan "closing the door" on Hispanics:
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ndres+chao

Letter to Mexican Consulate:

[i][color=darkred][b]July 29, 2007

Mr. Andres Chao
Mexican Consulate
3500 South University Ave.
Little Rock, AR

Dear Mr. Chao:

First, I’d like to congratulate you on your appointment as the head of Mexico’s new consulate in Little Rock, Arkansas. In the July 29 article on the commercialappealonline.com Memphis online newspaper, you dismissed critics that said Mexico is helping illegal immigrants establish lives here. You stated that providing documents to Mexicans in the U.S. is allowed by international law, which gives many countries the right to offer such documents to their citizens abroad. Really, Mr. Chao? If you don’t mind, I’d like to ask that you provide me with the international law that allows foreign governments to aid and abet the operation of their citizens who are in another country ILLEGALLY. In America, just as in Mexico, we distinguish between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants. If you are providing documents to ILLEGAL Mexican immigrants that allow them to operate in the U.S., then you are in violation of our immigration laws. You need to be very careful in who you provide documents to in my country. I’m sure you realize that under under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico. Though not a felony here, it is still a crime and the perpetrator can be deported. In Mexico, those that aid in illegal immigration can be sent to prison. That also applies in my country. Also, I’m sure your aware that according to Article 116 of Mexican Immigration Law, foreigners in Mexico with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. That outcome also applies in my country.

As you know, the Mexican constitution expressly forbids non-citizens to participate in the country’s political life. Non-citizens are forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics. Article 9 states, “only citizens of the Republic may do so to take part in the political affairs of the country.â€

We need to decrease the consulates here and we need to stop them from over stepping their bounds. We can fight two battles at once, We are Americans!