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    You Don't Have to Use a Young Woman's Death to Flog Your Agenda. You Can Be Decent.

    You Don't Have to Use a Young Woman's Death to Flog Your Agenda. You Can Be Decent.

    Conservative media and ambitious politicians jumped all over the Mollie Tibbetts case.

    Aug 22, 2018

    On Tuesday evening, the body of missing Iowa college student Mollie Tibbetts was found in a cornfield. She had been missing since July 18. An undocumented immigrant named Cristhian Bahena Rivera guided police to her body and he is now being held on $1 million bail on a charge of first-degree murder. And an insupportable tragedy comes to a tragic end, right?

    Not when there are crooked politicians willing to exploit tragedy for political gain. Like our president. From CNN:

    "You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in very sadly from Mexico. And you saw what happened to that incredible beautiful young woman. Should have never happened. Illegally in our country," he said. "We've had a huge impact but the laws are so bad, the immigration laws are such a disgrace. We're getting it changed but we have to get more Republicans."

    The Trumpified conservative media jumped all over this case, and so did ambitious politicians from around the country. Fox News led with the story, nearly dripping with gratitude to not be talking about how the president*'s former campaign manager was convicted and how his former fixer copped a plea. Texas Governor Greg Abbott leaped onto the electric Twitter machine.

    Greg Abbott does not have the class god gave the common goose. And, as a warning against hubris, as if all of Classical Greek literature wasn't enough, The Des Moines Register reported that Rivera, the undocumented immigrant, worked on a farm owned by the family of a prominent Iowa Republican. The going around and the coming around are happening at an alarming rate these days.

    But there's another story of another murder of another resident of Iowa in the year 2018. In June, a high-school student named Manuel Pacheco, brought to this country by his parents from Mexico at the age of three, and a participant in the DACA program, ran into misdemeanor trouble with the law. He was getting ready to graduate from high school. Instead, ICE officials picked him up and dropped him at the Mexican border, essentially saying he didn't have to go home, but he couldn't stay here. This is called a "voluntary departure." The alternative is to be deported.

    The Des Moines Register
    picks up the story from there.

    In Zacatecas, Manuel had gone out to get food with an acquaintance of his cousin's, who apparently was known to the killers, Verduzco said. "He was in the wrong place at the wrong time." Both were killed. Manuel's throat was slit.

    There is now a President* of the United States who encourages his audiences to believe that there is no difference between Cristhian Rivera, the alleged murderer, and Manuel Pacheco, a murder victim in a native country he barely knew. There is an entire political party dedicated to promulgating that that viewpoint, and an entire media universe dedicated to blasting it out to an audience of timid shut-ins who hate punching 1 for English.

    The final word should go to Sam Lucas, who identified as one of Mollie's cousins on the electric Twitter machine and, in a counterpunch to Candace Owens, a new celebrity nuisance on the wingnut right right, wrote:

    sam @samlucasss

    hey i’m a member of mollie’s family and we are not so ****ing small-minded that we generalize a whole population based on some bad individuals. now stop being a ****ing snake and using my cousins death as political propaganda. take her name out of your mouth.
    Candace Owens @RealCandaceO

    Leftists boycotted, screamed, and cried when illegal immigrants were temporarily separated from from their parents.

    What will they do for Mollie Tibbetts?
    What did they do for Kate Steinle?

    They will NEVER see their parents again.


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    So I guess Sam Lucas is an open-borders DemoQuack. SAD!! But no matter. We will fight for the Americans being slaughtered and robbed and cheated by illegal aliens.
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    The author of that article is a disgusting human being.
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    Media Has Seizures After Republicans Lament The Death Of Mollie Tibbetts (Update: NY Times Changes Headline)

    JOHN SEXTONPosted at 1:21 pm on August 22, 2018

    The “Republicans seize” formula has become a running joke on the right because it happens every time a news story puts Democrats on the defensive. Yesterday, police revealed that a 24-year-old illegal immigrant had been charged with murder after confessing to placing the body of missing college student Mollie Tibbetts in a cornfield. Last night at a campaign rally in Charleston, West Virginia, President Trump briefly mentioned the murder, without even using Tibbetts name, in his 70-minute speech. So, naturally, today the NY Times published this story: “After an Immigrant’s Arrest, Trump Seizes on Killing of Mollie Tibbetts, Iowa Student.” Here’s how it opens:

    A body believed to be that of Mollie Tibbetts, a 20-year-old student at the University of Iowa who vanished a month ago after going for a jog, was found on Tuesday morning, investigators announced, and a 24-year-old undocumented immigrant was charged with first-degree murder.
    President Trump, who has repeatedly linked crime to illegal immigration, alluded to the case at a rally Tuesday evening in West Virginia.

    “You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in, very sadly from Mexico, and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman,” Mr. Trump said. “It should’ve never happened. Illegally in our country. We’ve had a huge impact, but the laws are so bad, the immigration laws are such a disgrace.”

    The fact that Trump mentioned it in passing (the story says he “alluded” to it) somehow justifies a “Trump seizes” headline. CBS News did pretty much the same thing. Their story is headlined: “GOP seizing Mollie Tibbetts murder as political issue.” Here’s the opening of this one:

    The disappearance of a well-liked college student from America’s heartland had touched many people since she vanished one month ago while out for a run. But the stunning news that a Mexican man living in the U.S. illegally has allegedly confessed to kidnapping and murdering her thrust the case into the middle of the contentious immigration debate and midterm elections.

    President Trump seized on the man’s arrest in the death of Mollie Tibbetts on Tuesday to call the nation’s immigration laws “a disgrace” that will only be fixed by electing more Republicans. Iowa’s Republican governor, facing a tough re-election challenge in November, blasted an immigration system that “allowed a predator like this to live in our community.” And Iowa’s two U.S. senators, both Republicans, called the death a tragedy that “could have been prevented…

    CBS Des Moines affiliate KCCI-TV reports Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds issued a statement saying in part, “As Iowans, we are heartbroken, and we are angry. We are angry that a broken immigration system allowed a predator like this to live in our community, and we will do all we can bring justice to Mollie’s killer.”

    CNN wrote nearly the same story, albeit without the word “seize” in it: “Politicians blame immigration laws for Mollie Tibbetts’ fate.” To be fair, CNN’s main story about the murder, which is currently at the top of their homepage, is headlined: “Mollie Tibbetts case mystified police until a security camera offered a key clue.” The story lays out what happened and how police caught the (alleged) killer. The total number of mentions of Trump in the piece: zero. That’s appropriate because Trump really isn’t the story here.

    Why is the media so eager to paint this story into the “Republicans seize” framework? The answer to that can be found in the video clip below. Asked about the murder on CNN, Elizabeth Warren expresses sorrow for Tibbetts’ family and then immediately talks about children taken away from their parents at the border. “Separating a momma from a baby does not make this country safer,” Warren says.

    Um, what about the illegal immigrant who separated Tibbetts from her family forever? Can we focus on that for five minutes before you go back to your family separation talking points? Bottom line: This is a stumbling block for Democrats so the knee-jerk liberal media rushes to make Republicans the story.

    Update: The Daily Caller points out that the NY Times has been struggling with its headline all morning:

    Initially, after editors at The Times learned that an illegal immigrant was the suspect behind her murder, the headline read “Trump Seizes on Killing of College Student, After Undocumented Immigrant’s Arrest.”

    After several minor changes over the next two hours, The Times eventually deleted the word “undocumented,” with the current headline reading “Immigrant Is Charged in Mollie Tibbetts Murder in Iowa, and Trump Seizes on Case.”

    So they dropped “undocumented” but kept “Trump Seizes.

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