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    Controlling the border by consensus, not the courts

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    Controlling the border by consensus, not the courts
    Published: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 8:34 AM

    TAMAR JACOBY

    The Obama administration is considering suing Arizona to block implementation of its harsh new immigration enforcement measure, Senate Bill 1070. The Justice Department doesn't have much time -- barring a judicial stay, the law goes into effect July 29 -- and a decision, to sue or not to sue, is expected any day.

    SB 1070 is an abomination, no doubt about it, and the White House is under intense pressure to act. But a Justice Department lawsuit would be a horrendous mistake -- one that could end all hope of passing comprehensive immigration reform as long as Barack Obama is president.

    In a radical departure from settled law, the legislation makes illegal immigration a state crime in Arizona. Until now, it has been a federal matter. Even more controversially, the measure authorizes and in some cases requires local police to probe the immigration status of people they have stopped for other reasons, including violations of municipal ordinances. A devilishly ingenious, and disingenuous, piece of lawyering, the bill is designed to appear reasonable and pass the test of constitutionality, but it gives police far-reaching power to harass unlawful immigrants with the goal of driving them out of the U.S. -- a strategy the law's framers call "attrition through enforcement."

    All of that is bad enough, but the most devastating effect of SB 1070 may be political -- the way it is poisoning the American immigration debate.

    President Obama, President Felipe Calderon of Mexico, the Roman Catholic Church and the AFL-CIO, among others, have denounced the legislation. More than 15 U.S. cities, including Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles, have passed measures forbidding their employees to travel to Arizona on work-related business. Dozens of conferences and conventions scheduled to take place there have been canceled. And tens of thousands of people across the country have participated in demonstrations pillorying the measure as a racially motivated assault on immigrants and an invitation to ethnic profiling.

    [Earlier this month, the Portland City Council approved a resolution that, while stopping short of calling for a boycott, allows the city attorney to assist in legal efforts by the mayors of Flagstaff and Tucson to overturn the Arizona law. The Portland resolution also allows city lobbyists to push for stronger Oregon laws against racial profiling.]

    Meanwhile, on the other side of the divide, polls show that some 60 percent of Americans support SB 1070. The polling hasn't probed deeply, so it's hard to say exactly why they endorse the law. Some supporters talk about stemming border violence and controlling crime -- particularly the mob-style crimes committed by international smuggling cartels. Others, judging by talk radio and blog chatter, seem more bothered by the simple illegality of illegal immigration. Few surveys, now or in the past, show voters to be particularly angry at unlawful immigrants or eager to punish them. But many are very angry at the dysfunctional immigration system -- and at a political class that doesn't seem bothered by millions of people making a mockery of the law.

    What percentage of those who tell pollsters they support SB 1070 grasp that it will encourage profiling or the harassment of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants? Is that what they are endorsing? Or is their support merely a cry for government -- any level of government -- to get control of who is entering the country? According to the Rasmussen Report, a polling operation, roughly half of those who endorse the Arizona law are at least "somewhat concerned" about potential "civil rights violations." But nuanced or not, the measure's backers also have attracted some strident spokespeople. Just listen to Sarah Palin, who defends SB 1070 as "noble and just" and urges followers to defy the "boycott crowd."

    For weeks, proponents and opponents have played off one another, passion fueling passion, charges sparking countercharges and rage, to the point that there's almost no point in talking anymore -- people on both sides are that entrenched. Where one side sees law enforcement and personal security, the other sees racism. The very term "enforcement" has become a dirty word to many immigrants-rights activists. And to the nearly two-thirds of Americans who back the measure, reform advocates look increasingly suspect -- unwilling to admit an obvious truth (that illegal immigrants have broken the law) and far too ready to play the race card against those with legitimate concerns. For both sides, immigration is becoming an issue of good versus evil. And in that kind of moralistic standoff, there is no middle ground -- no room for politics or compromise.

    It's a disastrous course -- and one all too familiar in American politics. How long before the immigration debate is as stalemated as the standoff on abortion? Each side sees the other as morally reprehensible. Each is sure it's right. We as a nation can't resolve the problem, but we can't let go of it, either -- and it soon poisons other issues, making it hard to do even basic things, like confirm judges.

    An administration lawsuit against SB 1070 would only push immigration further in this direction. It would enrage the 60 percent. It would inject immigration into midterm campaigns from coast to coast. Worst of all, it would alienate key lawmakers, from Arizona and elsewhere, without whose help the administration will have no hope of advancing comprehensive reform.


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    View full sizeThe Associated Press/Gregory BullMen look for a place to sleep in a crowded shelter in the border town of Nogales, Mexico, for migrants deported from the United States.

    How exactly does Obama imagine influential Republican Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, or Sen. John McCain, would react to a federal lawsuit against their state? Without help or at least acquiescence from Kyl and McCain, where does the president expect to find Republican support for a reform bill? And how does the administration think proud, state-minded elected officials -- not to mention "tea party" voters -- would feel about a federal effort not just to check but override a state legislature?

    If the White House sues, it will do so under a flag of high moral righteousness. But many will see the suit as something far more cynical. Arizona acted only because the feds hadn't, moving, albeit misguidedly, to handle a problem Washington had left to fester for years. Yet now, instead of stepping up to do its job, Washington is trying to cover its flank by punishing those who filled the vacuum?

    Only the federal government can fix what's wrong with immigration -- but not with a lawsuit. What's needed is comprehensive immigration reform -- a balanced, bipartisan bill supported by a broad national consensus. That's what the administration should be focused on -- developing consensus on immigration, not exacerbating a widening divide and closing off all possibility of compromise.

    Copyright: 2010, Los Angeles Times

    Tamar Jacoby is president of ImmigrationWorks USA, a national federation of small-business owners advocating immigration reform.
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    What percentage of those who tell pollsters they support SB 1070 grasp that it will encourage profiling or the harassment of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants?
    1070 does nothing of the sort. Besides, when does asking someone for their identification, during the course of a legitimate police stop, constitute harassment ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    What percentage of those who tell pollsters they support SB 1070 grasp that it will encourage profiling or the harassment of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants?
    1070 does nothing of the sort. Besides, when does asking someone for their identification, during the course of a legitimate police stop, constitute harassment ?
    Our city government has been making a big deal out of avoiding "racial profiling"---due to the cry of numerous groups which are unhappy with their "neighbors" being stopped by police. But now they want us to go on the offensive against gangs. How will they do that without some sort of profiling? If we couldn't profile by race how would we intercept those plotting to blow up airliners? Racial profiling can used against any race, depending upon the type of crime.
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    Imagine how many more creative LIES they will tell if another amnesty is given, as they push for another, then another, then another, then another, and so on into infinity.

    MIGRATION = CONSTANT AMNESTY, not by actual definition, but be certain they will define "migration" as "constant amnesty".

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