Thread: Land of the free? Hah!!!

And some of you think illegal aliens count for most of the prison population.


Wrong again!

www.hoover.org/research/factsonpolicy/f ... 15876.html

That is just ONE study, and I find it hard to believe. IMO, America's prisons are becoming overcrowded because of the enormous amount of crimes being committed by illegals.

How many of those in our prisons are ANCHOR BABIES? they are not true citizens of the USA, they just continue to exploit our laws in their favor...Look at Los Angeles, they may say they are legal but how many of them were born to illegals? Yeah I'd say a high percentage of them, why doesn't someone spend some money on doing a study on the crimes committed by anchor babies and how much they cost tax payers on a yearly basis...Isn't that why california is bankrupt 16 billion dollars for 1 YEAR! Yet they dish out 9BILLION A YEAR to Illegals and their anchor babies?

The Hoover Institute? As in Herbert Hoover?

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According to this article in 2006

Up to a third of the U.S. federal prison population is composed of non-citizens, according to Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics - but not all non-citizen prison inmates are illegal aliens.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/ ... 4208.shtml

and again... that is 2006 numbers

Monday, March 27, 2006 11:39 a.m. EST
Justice Dept. Figures on Incarcerated Illegals

One of the more popular claims by illegal immigration proponents is that those who enter the U.S. by breaking the law are invariably "hard-working" and "law-abiding" once they get here.

That argument, however, has one major flaw. According to Justice Department statistics and the analysis of immigration experts, the "law-abiding" claim often isn't true.

As Investors Business Daily reported in March 2005:

"The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally in 2003. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California's prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces."

Citing an Urban Institute study, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies Steven Camorata noted in 2004: "Roughly 17 percent of the prison population at the federal level are illegal aliens. That's a huge number since illegal aliens only account for about 3 percent of the total population."

Former California Gov. Pete Wilson places the percentage of illegal aliens in U.S. prisons even higher. In 2001, he told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly:

"We had problems related to the costs of educating children who were acknowledged to be in the country illegally, healthcare costs. One in five in our prison population were illegal immigrants who had been convicted of a felony after entering the country illegally."

The Federation for American Immigration Reform also turned to the Justice Department to get statistics on criminal aliens. They report:

"In March 2000, Congress made public Department of Justice statistics showing that, over the previous five years, the INS had released over 35,000 criminal aliens instead of deporting them. Over 11,000 of those released went on to commit serious crimes, over 1,800 of which were violent ones [including 98 homicides, 142 sexual assaults, and 44 kidnappings].

"In 2001, thanks to a decision by the Supreme Court, the INS was forced to release into our society over 3,000 criminal aliens [who collectively had been convicted of 125 homicides, 387 sex offenses, and 772 assault charges]."

Up to a third of the U.S. federal prison population is composed of non-citizens, according to Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics - but not all non-citizen prison inmates are illegal aliens.

As to the "hard-working" claim, CIS notes: "The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 24.5 percent compared to 16.3 percent for native households."

Investor's Business Daily concurs: "Once [illegals] get here, they are 50 percent more likely to be on welfare than citizens."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/ ... 4208.shtml

When there are enforced LAWS, then prisons are populated. Does Mexico even have a prison population to speak of???

In this thread, I'm not debating the rightness of wrongness of illegal immigration, nor am I concerned with their effect on our society and economy.

Some people I've heard saying that illegal immigrants comprise the bulk of our prison population. This statement is all I'm singling out; the link to the Hoover Institute is a simple demographic chart, without opinion or political content. Clearly, there are more than twice the number of blacks in our jails than hispanics (let alone illegal immigrants)...

That is all!

That's quite some map you use for 'reference' MrsLeft.

To point out a couple flaws--where are Mexico, Australia and Hawaii?

MrsLeft , There are thousands of illegal aliens who are not Hispanic that are in US prisons and jails. People from many countries that are in the U.S. illegally end up in jail.