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    'That Dog Won't Hunt' Gheen's open letter to El Pueblo

    4/21/2005
    by William Gheen, President of ALIPAC
    Topics: Illegal immigration, in-state tuition, El Pueblo, Dirty Politics, Diversions, Aspersions, and Red Herrings
    (In Response to El Pueblo's tactics and the resulting Associated Press Article)

    An Open Letter to El Pueblo & Ms. Bazan-Manson:

    I am writing you today to ask that you please stop trying to falsely label me, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC), and 9 out of 10 LEGAL North Carolinians as hateful racists because we don’t think giving illegal aliens in-state tuition is a good idea. Almost every time someone brings up the issue of illegal immigration or opposes your desire to establish even more benefits for illegal aliens you make the wildest claims.

    Read the latest headlines about illegal immigration.

    Now you and some of the supporters of HB 1183 are trying to say that the many law abiding legal citizens that are calling Representatives to complain about their support for this ridiculous bill are a small minority of hate filled racists! You are holding up a few angry e-mails that you received and falsely claiming that these angry e-mails are representative of the opposition to HB 1183.

    Why is it that you and some supporters of HB 1183 are spending all of this time and energy calling other people names and making false accusations and associations instead of debating the merits of your bill?

    Ms. Bazan-Manson, the people calling Representatives and asking them not to vote for HB 1183 may be angry or shocked, but they represent close to 90% of the LEGAL citizens of this state. They are also exercising their civic rights in an appropriate way. It is you and your organization that represents the political minority on this issue Ms. Bazan-Manson.

    I know it must be upsetting for you to hear the concerned citizens of North Carolina calling all of the NC talk radio shows and Rush Limbaugh holding your bill up as an example of legislative insanity. I can imagine your dismay at the news that 9 lawmakers have pulled their names from the bill. The online polls showing 90% of North Carolinians oppose your plan must be discouraging as well, but please Ms. Bazan-Manson don’t try to label many good people that care about our state and nation as bad people.

    In my opinion, you are trying to play the race card because you are losing this debate on the bill. It is a desperate and last ditch attempt to save a bill that should have never been filed. Many North Carolinians are angry that we are even debating this legislation in the first place. I know that you are disappointed at the public reaction to your bill, but please do not try to claim that good people of North Carolina that fund your organization with close to $400,000 of tax grants each year are a bunch of mean spirited redneck racists that write nasty notes. That dog won't hunt!

    Our organization has members that are Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, and Native American. We have members that are Republicans, Democrats, Unaffiliated and 3rd party voters. We do not support or tolerate racism or aggressive behavior and we do support those that follow our laws and legally immigrate.

    ALIPAC has encouraged people to keep the high ground on every level of this debate and I encourage you to show some dignity and leadership to do the same with El Pueblo and those that support HB 1183.


    William Gheen
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    the dog won't hunt

    William,
    Very well put!
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    Re: the dog won't hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    William,
    Very well put!
    Why does El Pueblo receive public funds and what can we do about it?

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    Why does El Pueblo receive public funds and what can we do about it?

    Very good question.

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    I am always amused when these people call us racists. El Pueblo receives funding from the National Council of La Raza, perhaps, the most dangerous racist organization in America.

    Amazingly, they have been allowed to make themselves appear mainstream.

    The National Council of La Raza is a large part in why we are so actively attacking Home Depot. We need to get Home Depot to renounce its affiliation with this terrible, anti-American organization.

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    It gets better. I knew by memory that that organizations name was affiliated with La Raza. I didn't realize how significant the link was. Per the El Pueblo website:

    Nationally, she [Andrea Bazan-Manson] is a member of the Board of Directors of the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic civil rights organization based in Washington DC, where she also serves on its Executive Committee.

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    This is the letter I wrote to the editor of the Winston Salem paper with regard to the original article.

    letter: I can't believe that Andrea Bazan-Manson, executive director the Hispanic advocacy group El Pueblo, could honestly think that American citizens are going to turn their backs on their own kids in favor of illegal immigrants. What would North Carolinians or any Americans stand to gain by passing such a foolish bill into law? Already, the illegal immigrants are forcing hospitals in the Southwest to close because they flood the emergency rooms demanding care that the federal government says can't be denied to those in need. Already, they flood schools all over the nation with children who don't speak English and retard the capacity for American kids' education because they can't keep up due to the language barrier. Already, thanks to the grapevine of the pioneers who have learned to milk the system as illegals with stolen or forged papers, they are draining every welfare resource dry and leaving American citizens destitute because there are no funds left to distribute among the needy. What else do they want from us? Wake up, North Carolinians. You must not give another inch, another penny, or feel guilty for refusing. Illegal is illegal and illegal immigrants should be punished right along with the people who harbor and support them, not rewarded.
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    Excellent letters William and JuniusJnr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaveOurState
    It gets better. I knew by memory that that organizations name was affiliated with La Raza. I didn't realize how significant the link was. Per the El Pueblo website:

    Nationally, she [Andrea Bazan-Manson] is a member of the Board of Directors of the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic civil rights organization based in Washington DC, where she also serves on its Executive Committee.
    Well, well, well!!! Time to fight a little fire with fire.

    If ALIPAC can get a black eye for simply having a pair of uncontrolled links to sites listed a "hate" sites (that VDARE makes it there, TRUELY shows that hate list is a worthless pile of steaming poo).

    However, El Pueblo has its leader ON the board of directors of a listed HATE group (and truely a TRUE hate group) La Raza. Call out the hounds boys, it is time to hold them to the FIRE!

    H.

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    Racists, are we?? A hate group?? This reasoning sends my head spinning as it does when I read Chinese philosophy.

    First, they break the law. They want that part to be ignored and next reward with them with maintainance in this country. Then they want to be paid out of tax monies 400,000 yankee dollars to fight for the 'rights' of lawbreakers. Then they want lawbreakers to be given preference over legal, natural American citizens in colleges supported by further yankee tax dollars. If this is not handed over without any comment, then we're Racists, Haters...oh yeah, right. And, we're not supposed to notice that the inmates are running the asylum? How in the world did we get HERE?

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