Thread: New Lou Dobbs poll

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Do you find it reprehensible that the U.S. Senate is about to pass legislation without careful analysis and study of the number of illegal aliens in this country and the cost of that legislation to taxpayers?

97% yes 16,391 votes
3% no 535 votes

Lou needs to run another poll on the president's job performance, I would be interested in seeing those results after today!

Voted yes on the poll and yes I would be interested in seeing a poll of presidents approval ratings after vote today as well nitty

is speaking on CSPAN 2 now. I think when he was a prisoner they must have implanted something in his head.

I want to scream at him at the top of my lungs what a traitor to the American people he and others in the senate are!


People, keep a list of who sells us out and NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE!
THROW THEM OUT! THey still don't realize we know them now for what they are, traitors of the American people!

Ok fellow Americans, our candidate is emerging, Mr. Allen
Let's see what we are made of, and can do some good when it counts, during voting.

Can somebody ratify this - which freakin polls are McCain etc. reffering to.
What polls support this? Americans are overwhelmingly against the amnesty, and across party lines. They are outright lying. Every single poll that was out there from Zogby to CNN to...is saying outright that Americans are against this. This is very dangerous as they are trying to get others to succumb to the supposed "opinion" of the masess, which is outright wrong.
Americans are clearly against this - and polls are showing it. Or, none of us can read, no ?

Article -

Immigration foreshadows 2008 GOP contest

WASHINGTON - Call it an early, conservative rehearsal for the 2008 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination, four senators supporting a chance at citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants, one opposed.

"Some call it amnesty. I call it probation and parole," says Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback (news, bio, voting record), willing to push back against conservatives — many of whom presumably will vote in primaries and caucuses in 20 months' time.

"In poll after poll after poll, Americans support earned citizenship and a comprehensive solution," adds Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona, echoing Brownback's view as well as the one espoused by President Bush.

But Sen. George Allen (news, bio, voting record), seeking re-election in Virginia as well as maneuvering toward a White House bid, begs to differ.

"There are a lot of practical, principled problems with this and I am not voting for this," he said recently as the Senate plodded toward a final vote on the bill. "It rewards illegal behavior."

On track for passage Thursday, the Senate bill includes provisions to enhance border security, create a new guest worker program and give millions of illegal immigrants a path to citizenship as long as they meet certain conditions.

The president has spoken in favor of the Senate's general approach, stirring opposition from some conservatives who insist the borders be secured first and deride the bill as an amnesty measure for millions of lawbreakers.

At this early date, immigration is one of a few high-profile issues that divides GOP presidential hopefuls. Most are sticking with Bush on the war in Iraq, for example, and all generally support his call for spending restraints.

Among Democrats, potential presidential candidates appear in agreement on immigration. They are all expected to vote for the bill, with its obvious appeal for Hispanics, the fastest growing segment of the electorate.

Republicans, too, court Hispanics. But they also must contend with conservatives who have spoken out forcefully against the Senate measure.

Their dilemma: Vote for the Senate bill, in line with overall national opinion, thus risking a backlash from conservatives who make up a large part of the party activists and will play a significant role in picking the party's nominee. Or, side with conservatives, oppose the bill and risk alienating the broader electorate.

Four of five potential GOP presidential candidates — Brownback, McCain, Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee — are betting the wiser vote is in favor of the bill.

They use the same term, saying the measure reflects a "comprehensive" approach that the country wants — that is, legislation that focuses on securing the borders as well as dealing with the millions of illegal immigrants currently living within them.

McCain, whose GOP maverick streak masks his conservative credentials, pointed to public opinion.

Hagel, a Midwesterner, said the bill is "a responsible resolution to a difficult problem" and more than border security and immigration reform.

"It's also a job generation bill. It's an economic development bill. It's a social fabric bill. It says something about our country," the Nebraskan said on the Senate floor Wednesday. Ironically, the state's Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson (news, bio, voting record), criticized the bill in his own floor speech earlier in the day.

Brownback acknowledged a certain political risk in his position and said going against the conservative grain could hurt him.

Still, he said, "I believe as an economic conservative, as a social conservative, the right stance on this is to have a comprehensive immigration policy."

It wasn't clear until this week how Frist would vote. He told CNN's "The Situation Room" late Tuesday: "I expect that I will be supporting that bill coming out of the Senate."

That leaves Allen as the lone declared opponent among presidential hopefuls.

Voters in Virginia are "overwhelmingly opposed to this," he said of the Senate bill. "They see this as amnesty. Until the borders are secured, this flood, this flow of illegal immigrants is down to a trickle, they don't think we ought to be rewarding illegal behavior."

Then there's another possibility, that the issue will fade.

"People are going to cast their votes this fall based on amnesty or legalization," said Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, who hails from Iowa, the site of the first presidential contest in 2008.

"Who knows about two years from now?"