Thread: Poll: Should families affected by ICE raid be given $20k ?

Should the City of Portland have offered $20,000 to the families of workers caught up in an immigration raid?

http://www.katu.com

(In lower right of page)

Current results:

No:90%
Yes: 10%

Should the City of Portland have offered $20,000 to the families of workers caught up in an immigration raid?
Read more about it here

Yes
10%
OH HELL NO!!!
90%

Should the City of Portland have offered $20,000 to the families of workers caught up in an immigration raid?
Read more about it here

Yes
10%
No
90%

I do want to thank KATU for covering - rather completely, and objectively so far - stories about illegal immigration and related news items.

The other local media here hasn't done as well as KATU. Good job folks.
(OK, I'll admit my crush on Anna Song still exists as much as ever! )

How are they going to pay taxes on this gift? I believe federal taxes are required to be payed on gifts.

Should the City of Portland have offered $20,000 to the families of workers caught up in an immigration raid?

Read more about it here

Yes
10%

No
90%

Should the City of Portland have offered $20,000 to the families of workers caught up in an immigration raid?
Read more about it here

Yes
10%
No
90%


My question is however did this come up? Paying illegals for being illegals is rewarding criminal behavior. A bus ticket home would have been more appropriate. City Commissioner Erik Sten is one individual who should be charged with aiding and abetting with illegals and with misapropriation of public funds which are tax-dollars. Did Sten take this upon himself? He should be investigated.
Does Portland walk around and hand the homeless $20,000--I bet not.

Looked up article and here it is:

http://www.katu.com/news/12452741.html

By Bob Heye and KATU Web Staff
Video PORTLAND, Ore. - Remember that immigration raid at Portland's Fresh Del Monte packing plant back in June?

While federal officials cracked down on workers who were here illegally, the City of Portland turned around and offered $20,000 in aid to the workers' families.

City officials said it was a temporary effort aimed mostly at helping innocent children, but some say the city went too far in handing out taxpayer's money.

City Commissioner Erik Sten's office handled the grant and said he not only considered it a moral obligation for taxpayers, but there was a practical side too.

"You pay one way or the other," he said. "If people end up on the street with nowhere to go, police pick them up and they end up somewhere. It causes more harm and costs more money."

Vern Cook, who is on the board of Oregonians for Immigration Reform, could not disagree more.

He said taxpayers should not get stuck paying the bill for supporting children of parents who have no legal right to be in the United States in the first place.

"This is a particular situation of homelessness where they are here illegally, so they can't hold a job legally to earn the money that they need," he said. "Whose fault is that? It's their fault."

Sten said while $20,000 is a lot of money, it is only a drop in the multi-million dollar bucket of money the city sets aside for housing assistance. He also said that if there is another immigration raid, he would offer city grant money to those workers' families too.

To 'Aid or Abet' is to actively, knowingly, or intentionally assist another person in the commission or attempted commission of a crime, such as illegally entering our country without our permission or knowledge, housing them, transporting them, or employing them.

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Since I live here in town, I suppose I should take a screen snapshot of the results of that poll and send it to him (he really DOES need the reality-check I can see)

Commissioner Sten's web page: http://www.portlandonline.com/sten/

Did the city go too far in assisting illegals?

Story Published: Dec 12, 2007 at 10:39 PM PST

Story Updated: Dec 13, 2007 at 7:16 PM PST
By Bob Heye and KATU Web Staff
Video

PORTLAND, Ore. - Remember that immigration raid at Portland's Fresh Del Monte packing plant back in June?

While federal officials cracked down on workers who were here illegally, the City of Portland turned around and offered $20,000 in aid to the workers' families.

City officials said it was a temporary effort aimed mostly at helping innocent children, but some say the city went too far in handing out taxpayer's money.

City Commissioner Erik Sten's office handled the grant and said he not only considered it a moral obligation for taxpayers, but there was a practical side too.

"You pay one way or the other," he said. "If people end up on the street with nowhere to go, police pick them up and they end up somewhere. It causes more harm and costs more money."

Vern Cook, who is on the board of Oregonians for Immigration Reform, could not disagree more.

He said taxpayers should not get stuck paying the bill for supporting children of parents who have no legal right to be in the United States in the first place.

"This is a particular situation of homelessness where they are here illegally, so they can't hold a job legally to earn the money that they need," he said. "Whose fault is that? It's their fault."

Sten said while $20,000 is a lot of money, it is only a drop in the multi-million dollar bucket of money the city sets aside for housing assistance. He also said that if there is another immigration raid, he would offer city grant money to those workers' families too.

http://www.katu.com/news/12452741.html


Many criminals are boldly going where no criminals have gone before, right out there in front of the Main Stream Media.

It is long over due that we report these acts of aiding and abetting. It could just be the trigger that the police need to act.

Here is my two-step plan.

We may have to kiss the keisters of the illegal invaders, it is still a felony to aid and abet them.

If some honest men and women in law enforcement, would go after the lowlifes in the government, business and the general population that have been aiding and abetting them, by the time they had enough of a handle on the job to raise their heads and look around, I don’t think many illegal aliens would still be left.

We don't need any new laws to do this either. Just some honest men and women that take their oaths of office seriously.

Finding them is the first step!



Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

"Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:
* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or
* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.


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