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[Watch] VA Scandal Spreading – Secret Waiting Lists Also Used At Florida Hospital

Posted on 20 May, 2014 by Rick Wells


It would be hard to believe that secret waiting lists just happened to be the random fraudulent solutions thought up by the administrators of two different VA hospitals on opposite ends of the country.

A second VA hospital has been discovered to have been keeping two sets of books, as it relates to waitlists. One list was kept on the computer, the official version, as well as another, hand written, “off the record” version, which was much more complete.
Information is now coming forward that the Obama transition team was told that these problems existed back in 2008 and 2009, with nothing done to correct them in the interim five years.



The CNN reporters navigate the tricky thin line between being reporters and administration water carriers by recognizing that while problems were known to exist, the specific problems which resulted in deaths, may not have been known.
They don’t say whether the double set of books on the waitlists was one of those specific problems.
For background, with these new reports shining a more intense light, here’s Jay Carney walking a line of his own below, between speaking the truth and protecting the regime. “What did Obama know and when did he know it” was once again a topic of discussion.



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Establishment Pundits Close Ranks on My Comparison of Obamacare and the VA

May 21, 2014


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RUSH: Even when I, ladies and gentlemen, am not here, I still remain the most talked about radio talk show host in the country. Yesterday on Fox, America's Newsroom, the fill-in host, Eric Shawn, spoke with Ed Rollins, the Republican strategist -- and the Democrat strategist Mary Anne Marsh -- about comparisons that I made between the problems at the VA and Obamacare. Do you remember what I said? It was very simple.
In fact, it was harmless, and it happened to be true.
In discussing on Monday the problems at the VA I said, "Folks, here we have a little microcosm of where we're all headed with Obamacare. The VA is single payer. This is where we're all headed: Long lines, some people not being treated, and regime officials monkeying around with waiting lists. This is what is gonna happen to everybody with Obamacare if it's fully implemented."
That's what they played for the reaction of the Republican and Democrat strategists. Here first, Eric Shawn.
SHAWN: Problems with the VA health care system could be a sign of what's to come with Obamacare. Here's what Rush Limbaugh had to say...
RUSH ARCHIVE: No matter how big anybody's heart is, no matter what how much they care, here is a microcosm of what Obamacare is gonna be if it's fully implemented.
SHAWN: Is that the case? What does the VA scandal tell us about the new world of government health care in our nation?
RUSH: So, after that, they went to Ed Rollins and Mary Anne Marsh, and the question for Rollins: "The VA health care system is government health care. While some vets are satisfied all these other cases are just so horrendous and unforgivable. Will this be what it could be like under Obamacare," Ed Rollins?
ROLLINS: I think you have to separate the two. First of all, we have to take care of -- of -- of the VA, whatever it takes, bipartisanly. We need to fix this thing. Relative to it being connected to Obamacare, you know, the problem with Obamacare is it didn't do anything to reduce the costs. It basically added more coverage for people, but wasn't any guarantee that there was gonna be more medical services available.
RUSH: Just can't go there. Just can't. Just can't, 'cause, see, if you agree with me that would be divisive in Washington. So you have to make the point, "Well, it's two different things. First of all, we have to take care of the VA, whatever it takes, be bipartisan. We have to fix this thing." It's the establishment mantra. Could be Chris Christie, could be you name it. It has to be bipartisan. (McCain impression) "That's right, Limbaugh! We're gonna cross the aisle! We gonna roll up our sleeves and we're gonna work with the other side, and that's what I'm the best at," and that's the solution. Can't possibly agree with me.
No, no, no, 'cause that would be (whew!) too scary to contemplate.
Then they went to Mary Anne Marsh, the Democrat strategist, and this was her reaction.
MARSH: The VA had issues long before Obama was president and long before Bush was president. The tipping point came when we went into two wars we shouldn't have been in, we didn't pay for, and never planned for these veterans. That is the huge problem here. So I agree with that, a bipartisan agreement by Republicans and Democrats to devote the resources necessary to the VA to make sure every soldier gets every service they need because they have served our country.
RUSH: Right. So you agree with Rollins. The establishment is finding comfort with one another. Bipartisan, absolutely -- and then she adds (summarized), "By the way, we wouldn't even have these veterans and their medical problems if it hadn't been for Bush and those two wars that we didn't pay for and that we never planned for. That's the huge problem here. We had two wars we should have never been in. We had all these injuries and all this sickness that wouldn't have happened if it hadn't for Bush.
"But I agree with Ed. We need a bipartisan agreement and the resources necessary to fix the VA, to make sure every soldier gets every service they need because they've served our country. But, damn it, they didn't have to!" So you see how this plays out inside the Beltway. Do you realize how idiotic this is? This is the huge problem. "W need a bipartisan agreement, Republican and Democrats, to devote the resources necessary to the VA."
Well, that's been going on the last five years?
We didn't have these problems before. We were at war when George W. Bush was president, obviously, and we didn't have these problems. The Iraq War ended a long time ago. What do you mean these injuries and the cases are specific to these two wars? But because the mantra is bipartisan, work together, we cannot let it stand that what we're seeing here at the VA is a microcosm of where we're all headed with Obamacare, even though it is. It's a natural progression.
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Senate Democrats Just Blocked a Bill to Increase Accountability at Scandal-Plagued Veterans Affairs Department

Why do they hate veterans?

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This actually happened on the Senate floor this afternoon. Senator Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) asked for consent to take up and pass the Veterans Affairs Management Accountability Act, a bill that would make it easier/possible for the scandal-plagued department to fire employees based on poor performance. The House overwhelmingly passed the legislation on Wednesday, with a bipartisan vote of 390 to 33. (Only Democrats objected.)
Surely the Senate would follow suit, right? Not exactly. Senator Bernie Sanders, a union-backed socialist from Vermont, objected on behalf of Senate Democrats to Rubio’s request. Instead of taking any action now, Sanders said he is going to hold a hearing—several weeks from now.




Sanders, who chairs the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs, has been one of the most outspoken defenders of the VA against allegations of misconduct. When asked about reports of multiple deaths related to long wait times at the VA healthcare system, Sanders told CNN: “People die every day.”
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) on Thursday offered a lukewarm assessment of the House-passed legislation, describing it as “not unreasonable.”
House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) was not happy. “As we head into the Memorial Day weekend, I am disappointed, and—frankly—shocked that Senate Democratic leaders chose to block legislation that would hold VA managers accountable,” Boehner said in a statement. “As we head home to honor the men and women who have sacrificed so much for our freedom, it’s fair to ask why Senate Democrats won’t stand up for more accountability?”




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VA hospitals out of control
Corruption rampant

http://miami.cbslocal.com/latest-vid...lipId=10184017

Serious crimes treated like administrative matters
This is not unlike how police departments all over the US handle their crime stats and reporting.

The NYPD is specifically notorious for telling people who've been victims of serious crimes to "forget about it."

Why?

The precinct commanders want to keep their crimes stats low to make themselves look like heroes for the mayor who wants good press at any cost.

The difference with the VA is the huge quantities of drugs and expensive equipment that walks out of the doors of these places.
As bad as the poor medical care issue
is, it's only the tip of the iceberg.

VA resources including drugs and
expensive equipment routinely walk
out the door and administrators cover
up to make themselves look good.

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The House passed a bill 390-33 to make the VA more accountable.
That is strong bipartisan support.
The Democrat-led Senate, under the thumb of Harry Reid killed that bill.

Accountability? The Democrats are against it.
h/t +Ken Gardner
#democratshurtingveterans #democratshurtingpeople #partyofno 

VA Dr. Whistleblower: Returning Wounded Vets Forced To Wait More Than 10 Months Before Treatment! http://ow.ly/2H2LxU



Greg Hengler - VA Dr. Whistleblower: Returning Wounded Vets Forced To Wait More Than 10 Months Before Treatment!

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VA Dr. Whistleblower: Returning Wounded Vets Forced To Wait More Than 10 Months Before Treatment!

Greg Hengler | May 22, 2014

Amazing testimony uncovered from CNN's Sr. Investigative Correspondent (and the one responsible for exposing the VA scandal) spoke with Dr. Katherine Mitchell, Director at Phoenix VA's Post-Deployment Clinic.



http://townhall.com/tipsheet/greghen...tment-n1842177

Vietnam Vet George Barraza Dies While Waiting for Cancer Treatment from Houston VA

Dean Garrison 4 hours ago


Vietnam Vet George Barraza Dies While Waiting for Cancer Treatment from Houston VA - Freedom Outpost
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The allegations surrounding the VA in Phoenix are beyond serious. At least 40 veterans died because of extended wait times for medical treatment. Whether it is proven that these secret waiting lists are factual, or not, may not be the point.
Earlier this week, another whistleblower came forward and claims that a VA supervisor suggested that older veterans should be shot in the head to save money.

Whether any of these allegations are true, the fact remains that the proof of criminal wrongdoing is already there. Veterans, who pledged all for our freedom, are ending up dead because of an inept system of treatment. Whether it is intentional… whether it is conspiratorial… One cannot argue that the results have been tragic.
George Barraza is just the latest story of a veteran who died because the system, that was set up to treat him, proved woefully inadequate.
Click2Houston.com reports:

George Barraza love[d] two things in this life: playing the electric guitar with all his heart and this country.

During the Vietnam War, Barraza proudly served in the U.S. Army.

But on April 16, Barraza, a father of three girls, a chef and an American veteran, died waiting for an appointment at the VA Medical Center in Houston.

At the time of his death, Barraza was battling heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, cirrhosis of the liver and liver cancer…

…

Over the next several months, family members said Barraza began to decline physically and he did go to the VA for various tests and other help.

But in March family members said Barraza was suddenly rushed to Methodist Hospital again. This time he was vomiting blood and doctorstold him he had a tumor or growth on his liver.

Barraza's family said doctors at that hospital told Barraza he had to get to the VA right away, it was very serious and he needed treatment.


But the very next day, when they took him to the VA Hospital, they said again Barraza was not treated or admitted to the hospital. Instead he was given more prescription medicines and given an appointment more than a month away on May 5.

Barraza died April 16.

Some of the early rumblings are that this will be the biggest scandal of the Obama presidency thus far. We have heard that before but this time it might be true. The implications extend far beyond the treatment of our veterans.
Are we witnessing the future of American health care? Whether these "death panels" were planned, or just an unfortunate result of bad legislation, they do exist.
We have just seen evidence in the form of a series of decisions that cost many Patriotic American heroes their lives. That may not be an official "death panel" but the results are, unfortunately, the same.
WE HAVE VOLUNTARILY GIVEN OUR GOVERNMENT THE POWER TO DECIDE WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES.
"Voluntarily" may be a poor word choice because we all remember how Obamacare was rammed down our throats. Veterans have already been there and done that. They have had a poor healthcare system rammed down their throats for years.
Yet, once again, none of our elected servants will do a damn thing about it. How many people will die because of long wait times in the future?
You do not need to dress this VA scandal up as any kind of conspiracy to see that it is criminal. Someone should answer for the premature deaths of these veterans.
Is this what we all have to look forward to with Obamacare?
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The Current VA Scandal: Why is the Wolf Allowed to Guard the Henhouse?

Lauren Price 6 hours ago

Two days ago, a Miami, FL VA Police Officer, Detective Thomas Fiore decided he had seen enough corruption, enough drug dealing and enough cover-ups. Detective Fiore put his job on the line to become yet another whistleblower on his bosses at the VA. He publicly 'outed' his bosses' utter disregard for the criminal activity going on at the Miami VA Medical Center. He did so, knowing full well that it may have been his last day at work. His story is below, courtesy of CBS Miami.


video at link below

As a result of another VA whistleblower, Dr. Sam Foote's exposure of the "secret lists" at the Phoenix VA Medical Center, Congress has forced investigations at 146 of the VA's 152 medical facilities. As of today, over 26 VA medical facilities are under investigation by the VA Office of Inspector General.

Multiple VA employees, who have been "caught," have been put on "paid leave" during these investigations. They still receive their paychecks, benefits and clock towards retirement. All the while, veterans are still waiting for appointments, still dying without care and still waiting on their claims to be adjudicated.

There lies the rub…the VA OIG provides their reports to Congress, but still answers to the VA Central Office. VA Police are Federal law enforcement, but are in fear of retaliation or worse because they too answer directly to the VA.

Veterans Advocates, such as VeteranWarriors, have long known about the system-wide malfeasance, dereliction of duty and downright criminal activity at the VA – both the health care facilities and the benefits offices, for over a decade. Yet countless investigations, recommendations and audits have produced almost no tangible change to the way the VA does business.

The only way we will get to the truth is to start with the assumption that the people who have broken laws are going to try to hide it; just like all other criminals in the world. We must demand that Congress stop allowing the wolf to guard the hens. It is time for the Department of Justice to step in and initiate a full-scale, enterprise wide investigation.

It is time to stop rewarding these criminals and derelicts with paid vacations, (also known as "paid leave"), transfers out of their messes and any chance at continued employment by the U.S. taxpayer.

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VA Supervisor: "Older Veterans Should Be Shot In The Head..."



Published on May 21, 2014
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