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    Americans unload prized belongings to make ends meet

    Americans unload prized belongings to make ends meet

    By ANNE D'INNOCENZIO - AP Business Writer
    Last Updated 11:05 pm PDT Tuesday, April 29, 2008



    Nancy Baughman, left, and her husband Daren display items that they will be selling on their online auction service, eBizAuctions, in their Raleigh, N.C. home, Friday, April 25, 2008.
    Karen Tam / AP Photo


    NEW YORK -- The for-sale listings on the online hub Craigslist come with plaintive notices, like the one from the teenager in Georgia who said her mother lost her job and pleaded, "Please buy anything you can to help out."

    Or the seller in Milwaukee who wrote in one post of needing to pay bills - and put a diamond engagement ring up for bids to do it.

    Struggling with mounting debt and rising prices, faced with the toughest economic times since the early 1990s, Americans are selling prized possessions online and at flea markets at alarming rates.

    To meet higher gas, food and prescription drug bills, they are selling off grandmother's dishes and their own belongings. Some of the household purging has been extremely painful - families forced to part with heirlooms.

    "This is not about downsizing. It's about needing gas money," said Nancy Baughman, founder of eBizAuctions, an online auction service she runs out of her garage in Raleigh, N.C. One former affluent customer is now unemployed and had to unload Hermes leather jackets and Versace jeans and silk shirts.

    At Craigslist, which has become a kind of online flea market for the world, the number of for-sale listings has soared 70 percent since last July. In March, the number of listings more than doubled to almost 15 million from the year-ago period.

    Craigslist CEO Jeff Buckmaster acknowledged the increasing popularity of selling all sort of items on the Web, but said the rate of growth is "moving above the usual trend line." He said he was amazed at the desperate tone in some ads.

    In Daleville, Ala., Ellona Bateman-Lee has turned to eBay and flea markets to empty her three-bedroom mobile home of DVDs, VCRs, stereos and televisions.

    She said she needs the cash to help pay for soaring food and utility bills and mounting health care expenses since her husband, Bob, suffered an electric shock on the job as a dump truck driver in 2006 and is now disabled.

    Among her most painful sales: her grandmother's teakettle. She sold it for $6 on eBay.

    "My grandmother raised me, so it hurt," she said. "We've had bouts here and there, but we always got by. This time it's different."

    Economists say it is difficult to compare the selling trend with other tough times because the Internet, only in wide use since the mid-1990s, has made it much easier to unload goods than, say, at pawn shops.

    But clearly, cash-strapped people are selling their belongings at bargain prices, with a flood of listings for secondhand cars, clothing and furniture hitting the market in recent months, particularly since January.

    Earlier this decade, people tapped their inflated home equity and credit cards to fuel a buying binge. Now, slumping home values and a credit crisis have sapped sources of cash.

    Meanwhile, soaring gas and food prices haven't kept pace with meager wage growth. Gas prices have already hit $4 per gallon in some places, and that could become more widespread this summer. The weakening job market is another big worry.

    Christine Hadley, a 53-year-old registered nurse from Reading, Pa., says she used to be "a clotheshorse," splurging on pricey Dooney & Bourke handbags. But her live-in boyfriend left last year, and she has had trouble finding a job.

    Piles of unpaid bills forced her to sell more than 80 items, including the handbags, which went for more than $1,000 on a site called AuctionPal.com. Now, except for some artwork and threadbare furniture, her house is looking sparse.

    "I need the money for essentials - to pay my bills and to eat," Hadley said.

    At AuctionPal.com, which helps novices sell things online, for-sale listings rose 66 percent from February to March, much faster than the 25 percent to 30 percent average monthly pace since the company was formed in September, CEO Maureen Ellenberger said. She said she was surprised to see that most of her clients desperately needed to sell items to raise cash.

    For LiveDeal.com, a classifieds and business directory site, for-sale listings for January through March rose 10 percent from the previous year.

    "We can definitely detect economic stress on the part of the consumer," said John Raven, the site's chief operating officer.

    On Craigslist, Buckmaster said, three of the four fastest-growing for-sale categories are tied to gas - recreational vehicles like campers and trailers, cars and trucks, and boats.

    Raven noted more and more listings for furniture, particularly in areas around Miami and Las Vegas and other regions hardest hit by the housing crisis.

    Baughman, who runs eBizAuctions, said that over the past four months she's been working with mostly desperate sellers instead of mainly casual ones. Most are middle-class customers who can't pay their bills and now want to be paid up front for the items instead of waiting until they are sold, she said.

    The trend may be hurting secondhand stores too. Donations to the Salvation Army were down 20 percent in the January-to-March period. George Hood, the charity's national community relations and development secretary, said that was probably partly because people were selling their belongings instead.

    And secondhand buyers want better deals now as well, driving prices down. Secondhand merchandise online is going for 25 to 35 percent below what it commanded a year ago, estimated Brian Riley, senior analyst at research firm The TowerGroup.

    "It won't hit the saturation point until the (economy) hits the bottom and right now, we don't know when that is," he said.

    In Alabama, Bateman-Lee said that she only received $30 for her TV and $45 for her DVD player at a local flea market. She doesn't have too much left to sell, but she's going back to "sort through more things."

    Her $30 water bill is due this week.

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    Yes, and remember Allan Greenspan's comments about how skilled American workers earn too much. This is part of the process of equalizing our labor with third world labor. We are being taken down by our own goverment, who is even now opening the door to more third world labor to compete with us. When the low paid jobs went to illegals, we were supposed to get skilled. When the skilled blue collar jobs went overseas, we were supposed to go to college. When the white collar jobs were taken away from us and given to foreigners ... now what?

    Right now the government wants to allow foreign graduates of American universities way more time to stay here and find a job (= compete with your graduating son or daughter). Student visas were originally supposed to educate foreign students so that they could go home and build up their own nations. We were not supposed to glom onto the brains of other countries. But American Corporations see it differently.

    It is starting to be documented how top American colleges and universities are bypassing American A student applicants and recruiting foreigners instead. It's been posted here elsewhere.

    I would never dream of making this an ALIPAC issue, but if it bothers you, public comment is now being accepted here: http://www.washtech.org/news/labor/disp ... ntent=5234
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    Yes, and remember Allan Greenspan's comments about how skilled American workers earn too much. This is part of the process of equalizing our labor with third world labor. We are being taken down by our own goverment, who is even now opening the door to more third world labor to compete with us. When the low paid jobs went to illegals, we were supposed to get skilled. When the skilled blue collar jobs went overseas, we were supposed to go to college. When the white collar jobs were taken away from us and given to foreigners ... now what?

    Right now the government wants to allow foreign graduates of American universities way more time to stay here and find a job (= compete with your graduating son or daughter). Student visas were originally supposed to educate foreign students so that they could go home and build up their own nations. We were not supposed to glom onto the brains of other countries. But American Corporations see it differently.

    It is starting to be documented how top American colleges and universities are bypassing American A student applicants and recruiting foreigners instead. It's been posted here elsewhere.
    Amen.....you said it all there. Systematically ripping every last thing right out from under us.
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    We are fast becoming a rich vs poor society, people should be outraged but I find many people who simply do not believe the government would do something like this however the desire for cheap labor and high profits is in fact destroying America.
    I'm old with many opinions few solutions.

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