Thread: The Big Fat Greek Lie Is Now Obvious to Spain... So Who's Next to Default?

The Big Fat Greek Lie Is Now Obvious to Spain... So Who's Next to Default?


Submitted by Phoenix Capital Research on 03/15/2012 11:47 -0400

The big fat Greek lie being spread throughout the financial community is that Greece has been saved. It’s a lie for the following reasons:

1. Greece did in fact default
2. Greece now has more debt than it did before the bailout (how does writing off €100 billion Euros in debt and taking on €130 billion Euros in more debt improve this situation?)
3. The Greek economy continues to implode (youth unemployment over 50%, one in ten Greek youth looking for jobs abroad, Greek GDP fell 7% in 4Q11)
4. This Second Bailout was indeed a “Credit event” which the markets have yet to discount (though German investors are already lining up litigation)
5. Germany’s finance minister has already admitted Greece may need a third bailout.

Anyone who thinks that Greece is better off, let alone “saved” is out of their minds. The Euro may have been saved for a few more weeks/ months. But Greece is in worse shape than ever.

Indeed, if anything, the Greek situation has made it clear that the whole “give up fiscal sovereignty and implement austerity measures in exchange for bailouts” formula is a waste of time and money. Let’s take a look at the progression here.

1. Greece claims it doesn’t need a bailout at all (January 2010-March 2010)
2. Greece begins to ask for a bailout (April-May 2010)
3. Greece gets a bailout equal to 57% of its GDP (May 2010)
4. Greece posts a GDP of -4% in 2010
5. Greece announces it won’t be able to meet budget requirements/ payback the first bailout on time and asks for an extension (January-February 2011)
6. Greece asks for another extension (May 2011)
7. Talk of Second Greek Bailout begins (July –October 2011)
8. Greece posts a GDP of -6.5% in 2011
9. Second Greek bailout announced/ finalized (February/March 2012)
10. Talk of third Greek bailout begins (March 2012)

No other EU country could look at this progression and think “this looks like a good approach.” Indeed, Spain and Italy must be watching what’s happening in Greece and asking themselves whether they want to go through this whole process of negotiating for bailouts via austerity measures.

Both countries have already had a small sampling of the austerity measure medicine. Spain recently implemented a meager 19€ billion in austerity measures while Italy passed 30€ billion in austerity measures in 2011… hardly a drop out of their respective 1.06€ trillion and 1.5€ trillion economies.

Yet, even these tiny moves resulted in protests and riots. One can only imagine what Spanish and Italian politicians are thinking as they witness the widespread civil unrest, country-wide strikes, and economic depression that have occurred in Greece as a result of that country’s full commitment to the EU’s austerity measure demands.

Spain’s official Debt to GDP is only 64%, but its private sector debt is at an astounding 227% of GDP. And the Spanish banking system is leveraged at 19 to 1 (worse than Greece).

Moreover, the country is already experiencing an economic Crisis with an unemployment rate of 20+% and an economy that has been contracting since mid-2011 (in fact Spain’s GDP just actually went negative in the first quarter of 2012)…

Indeed, Spain’s recent efforts to tell the EU to “shove it” have put a crack in the Eurogroup power over individual EU members that can quickly widen.

Spain's sovereign thunderclap and the end of Merkel's Europe

As many readers will already have seen, Premier Mariano Rajoy has refused point blank to comply with the austerity demands of the European Commission and the European Council (hijacked by Merkozy).

Taking what he called a "sovereign decision", he simply announced that he intends to ignore the EU deficit target of 4.4pc of GDP for this year, setting his own target of 5.8pc instead (down from 8.5pc in 2011).

In the twenty years or so that I have been following EU affairs closely, I cannot remember such a bold and open act of defiance by any state. Usually such matters are fudged. Countries stretch the line, but do not actually cross it.

With condign symbolism, Mr Rajoy dropped his bombshell in Brussels after the EU summit, without first notifying the commission or fellow EU leaders. Indeed, he seemed to relish the fact that he was tearing up the rule book and disavowing the whole EU machinery of budgetary control.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100015432/spains-sovereign-thunderclap-and-the-end-of-merkels-europe/

The EU rejected this (of course) and Spain has since agreed to meet softer budgetary requirements. But it’s clear that a shift has begun in how EU members will deal with the Eurogroup as a whole.

So… we must consider that it is highly likely the option of simply defaulting is being discussed at the highest levels of the Spanish and Italian government. Should either country decide that austerity measures don’t work and it’s simply easier to opt for a default, then we are heading into a Crisis that will make 2008 look like a joke.

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Summing Up All That Is Wrong With Greece


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/15/2012 15:21 -0400

We are not picking on Greece today but in the shadow of Lagarde's (and Thomsen's) comments on how shiny everything is in Greece but risks remain, we thought this anecdote-and-analysis discussion between RGE's Megan Greene and CMC's Michael Hewson was so timely as a follow-up to our previous discussion in December. From her experience in a coffee-less and book-less cafe/bookstore in Athens to a succinct perspective on debt sustainability, competitive issues, elections, and implementing structural reforms, the discussion is a quick-and-dirty way to grasp that it's all about the politics and less about the economics. Greece has a reputation for having done nothing since the initial bailout but that is not true - it has undergone quite dramatic fiscal adjustments. But critically Green points out the much more important 'change that the Greeks can believe in' is the structural reforms - and unfortunately there really has been very little progress. Simply put, until Greece sees a whole new political class (who are not inherently captured and self-dealing) that are capable of implementing the kind of structural reforms necessary to improve Greek competitiveness, Greece will never reach sustainability. This leads to her conclusion (spoiler alert) that what it will take (given that all political parties are at the heart of it the same in Greece from Euro adoption and product ad labor reform perspective) is for Greece to exit the Euro. Quite unapologetically, Megan notes the political 'spring' in the youth that is building in sound and fury and feels that this new political class will not succeed until Greece has hit rock-bottom - though this could take a while as mindsets shift from Euro-friendly to Austerity-unfriendly with perhaps post German elections in 2013 as a catalyst with an amicable divorce.
After the first 7:30 ,focused on Greece, they go on to discuss the LTRO strengths and weaknesses - well worth staying on for...
and at around 10:00 she discusses the Spanish elephant in the room (and the Italian political instability over the next year)...



Summing Up All That Is Wrong With Greece | ZeroHedge

Spanish Housing Re-Plunging


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/15/2012 12:57 -0400

The crash in home prices in Spain is re-accelerating. Bloomberg data shows the drop in Q4 as the third worst drop YoY ever and the fastest rate since September 2009 taking prices back to March 2005 levels. As WSJ reports, Spanish banks hold more than EUR400 billion worth of loans to the construction and real-estate sector, back by collateral that is now losing value at almost record paces. Is it any wonder that the banks are seeking state-guaranteed debt issuance (as no-one will touch them directly) as "the outlook remains bleak, with the demand for housing expected to shrink throughout 2012 with debt-laden households struggling to cope with a devastated labor market and limited access to credit." Perhaps today's disappointing Spanish auction (weak demand) is the first reality-seeking canary in the LTRO-enthused coalmine of Spanish and Italian self-dealing as the real-money vigilantes start to bet actively against Spain in favor of Italy (which trades tight of Spain for the first time this week since August). Spanish banks need more cowbell LTRO (but what collateral is there left) to fund more support for their local govvies.

Spanish housing (and unemployment) is re-accelerating to the weak side again...



and markets are not missing that point as Italy now trades inside of Spain again having hugely outperformed post LTRO, but more critically, Spain is now widening (as opposed to not tightening as much)...



Chart: Bloomberg

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