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    Alfie Evans deserves the chance to fight for his life -- Why is the UK determined to let him die?



    By Karol Markowicz | Fox News


    UK judge denies parents' appeal for Alfie Evans

    UK toddler is fighting for his life. Author Matt Walsh sounds off about the controversial case.

    In a move that has baffled people around the world, Britain is engaged in a fight with Tom Evans and Kate James to deny life support to their hospitalized 23-month-old son, Alfie – condemning him to death, even though the toddler’s parents want desperately to keep him alive.

    Two days ago, Pope Francis stepped in and offered Alfie care in Italy. The Italian government went as far as granting citizenship to Alfie in an attempt to have him immediately transferred to Italy.

    But the British hospital where Alife is staying refused to allow the transfer and the parents sought judgement from the Family Division of the High Court in Manchester. A judge ruledTuesday that the toddler, who was taken off life support on Monday, is too ill to travel to Vatican City in Rome for treatment.

    Alfie’s parents appealed that ruling to Britain’s Court of Appeal, but on Wednesday three judges on that that court rejected the parent’s request to overturn the lower court ruling denying the transfer of Alfie.

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    The abject insanity of it all – the argument that the toddler may die if he travels so best to kill him in Britain – is what has turned the case of Alfie Evans into a worldwide story.

    One of the key facts about Alfie is that no one knows what is ailing him. This alone should be a reason to keep him alive. His lack of definitive diagnosis should mean that, at minimum, he be kept alive until doctors can figure it out.

    The confidence with which doctors are proclaiming Alfie has no chance to improve might make sense if they knew what was wrong with him in the first place. That they don’t, and are letting him die anyway, is damning.

    The hospital, and those who support ending all treatment for Alfie, say that his quality of life is poor and therefore he should be allowed to die ostensibly “with dignity.” But the idea that those who have a less-than-ideal quality of life should be killed is barbaric.

    We treat life as something we can design and perfect. Babies with Down syndrome are being aborted out of existence because we’ve decided that the only high quality of life is the kind that we ourselves enjoy.

    The desire to rid ourselves of imperfect humans cheapens life. Perhaps Alfie Evans will never have what most people would consider a normal life. But that’s irrelevant to whether he should be killed.

    A “normal” life is often imperfect. If they refuse to keep Alfie alive now, will they soon come for your grandfather with the oxygen tank or your mother who has chronic pain? When someone else gets to decide who is living the ideal life, how many of us will die?

    Alfie has defied the odds in remaining alive. Why not give him the chance to fight for his life, and for his parents to know they did everything they could to save their son? Britain needs to answer this question for Alfie and all the Alfies still to come.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...t-him-die.html





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    British Cops Threaten Hospital’s Social Media Critics As Alfie Evans Loses New Appeal

    ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 3:08 pm on April 25, 2018



    Passions are running hot over little Alfie. It may be that some critics have crossed the line by threatening the hospital’s staff.
    But, British cops being British cops, it may also be that someone tweeted a picture of a middle finger and now They Must Pay.


    If the cops are just bored and looking for something to do, I know of a two-year-old whose life is in grave danger.
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    We've issued a statement this evening to make people aware that social media posts which are being posted in relation to Alder Hey and the Alfie Evans situation are being monitored and may be acted upon. Read the full statement here: https://goo.gl/hUZ5zB
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    Mark Hemingway paraphrases: “Not only are we going to kill this child, we’re going to throw you in jail for complaining about it.”
    His father lost his latest appeal this afternoon. The end is near, according to Alfie’s mother. Hats off to the death panel: Anyone can kill a child in the womb but it takes real determination to kill a 23-month-old. Alfie’s father is now threatening to sue the doctors involved but the state will assuredly protect its bureaucrats in court and defeat that suit:

    Paul Diamond, representing Alfie’s father Tom Evans, said there were “tensions”, but that there was no “hostility'” against the NHS. But Lord Justice McFarlane told counsel: “Your client purported to take out a private prosecution to have three named doctors charged with the criminal offence of conspiracy to murder. “Those summonses were served on the doctors and I hear you say that there is no hostility to the NHS.” Mr Diamond replied: “There is no hostility but within that process there are tensions.”


    God forbid the Evanses show hostility to the NHS under the circumstances. I repeat what I wrote last night: With Italian doctors willing to treat Alfie and a plane standing by to take him to Italy, with his parents desperate to take them up on that invitation, the only conceivable reason the UK would refuse to let him go is because they’re terrified that he really might be successfully treated. If they’re wrong on a question of life and death that’s now being scrutinized internationally, no one would ever trust an NHS end-of-life assessment again. Letting him go would require the British health-care and judicial systems to do the one thing bureaucracies bristle at doing, knowing how it undermines their institutional authority: They’d have to admit they were wrong. They can’t do it. To preserve the public’s trust, the child must starve.

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    The Queen needs to step in and demand the release of this child into Italy for second opinion and/or treatment.
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    Why Aren't U.S. Liberals Outraged About Alfie Evans?

    A British baby's right to life should be clear to everyone.

    By Ramesh Ponnuru April 26, 2018, 1:44 PM EDT





    There should be no debate. Photographer: Beata ZawrzelNurPhoto via Getty ImagesWhat the British government is doing to a baby and his family is almost unbelievable. The government has determined that Alfie Evans, afflicted as he is by a rare neurodegenerative disorder, has so poor a quality of life that no efforts should be made to keep him alive.


    He was taken off ventilation, but continued, surprising the doctors, to breathe. He has also been deprived of water and food. His parents want to take him to Italy, where a hospital is willing to treat him. The British government says no, and has police stationed to keep the boy from being rescued. It is, after all, in his best interest to die.


    There are end-of-life cases that raise genuinely complicated issues. The same course of medical treatment might be obligatory in one set of circumstances, permissible in another, and cruel in a third. There are gray areas and judgment calls.


    This is not one of those cases. There is no allegation that providing the baby with nutrition and hydration, or treatment generally, will cause him suffering — or that extending his life will prolong his suffering, since there is no indication that he has been suffering.


    The family is not asking the British government to pay for expensive treatments. They just want the freedom to take their boy to people who will try to keep him alive rather than cause his death. The considerations that move the government are that the baby’s doctors consider it unlikely that he will ever attain a high level of cognitive functioning or be able to survive on his own, and likely that his condition will eventually kill him. The courts have decided that Alfie Evans therefore derives no benefit from continuing to live. It really is this simple: The government has decided that it is the baby’s best interest to die, and it is trying to ensure that he dies expeditiously. It is overriding parental rights in the process.

    The family and its supporters assert, with justified outrage, that it is barbaric to sentence anyone to death by starvation for the crime of being dependent on others, and that parents have a right to make medical decisions for their children. The courts are treating the parents as though they were in the grip of irrational, if understandable, emotions. They are merely loving their baby. It is the British state that appears to be reacting in an irrational and nearly incomprehensible, way.

    The Guardian reports that the case has become a “rallying cry for social conservatives” in the United States. So it has. My question is: Why aren’t liberals horrified by the British government’s behavior too? Shouldn’t everyone be?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...f-u-s-liberals


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    Alfie Evans Father: Hospital Is Holding My Son Hostage

    ED MORRISSEYPosted at 12:01 pm on April 26, 2018




    The parents of Alfie Evans met earlier today with hospital officials in an effort to get the 23-month-old released into their home care. It apparently didn’t go well. Tom Evans asked Pope Francis to come to the UK to free the child at the center of a political, medical, and moral firestorm, claiming that Alder Hey Hospital was holding his son “hostage”:

    Alfie Evans’ father has appealed to Pope Francis to travel to Liverpool to see the plight of his son who he claims is being held hostage at Alder Hey hospital. Tom Evans, who has been at the centre of a bitter legal dispute with the hospital, told the Catholic channel TV2000 on Thursday: “I call on the pope to come here to see what is happening.
    “Come here and see how my son is the hostage of this hospital. What we are enduring is not right.”


    Hyperbole? Yes, but understandable from a grief-stricken father trapped in a system that pays little heed to parental wishes. Earlier, Evans tried to sound reasonable before meeting with the hospital:




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    BREAKING: The father of Alfie Evans is due to meet doctors at Alder Hey Hospital today and will be asking to take Alfie home.
    2:48 AM - Apr 26, 2018



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    Imagine having to go to a hospital in a case where no abuse or neglect has been alleged, let alone imagined, and having to bargain for the release of your own child. Now imagine that added to the knowledge that the hospital’s plan for your child is to neglect him to death, even though he has been breathing on his own for three days straight, and when other medical facilities are volunteering to offer treatment or at least palliative care for as long as the child still lives.

    Unimaginable, right? That’s the nightmare in which the Evans’ find themselves. Even if one credits the hospital with the best of intentions, their refusal to bend at all to parental direction is utterly mystifying. And that goes even more for the courts who won’t allow the parents to take the child to a well-known and well-regarded hospital that wants to see if they can do anything for the child, who’s currently fighting to stay alive.

    From the outside, hostage might seem too harsh a word. From the inside … I’d be hard pressed to come up with another word. And it might be tough not to take it as personally as Evans does, too:

    Evans picked up some celebrity support earlier today for his bid to bring his own child home:

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    Now Good Morning Britain presenter Piers Morgan has backed the case for the ill toddler to live out his final days at home. The 53-year-old wrote on Twitter: “Let. Them. Take. Him. Home. #AlfieEvans.” Piers previously backed the call for Alfie to be taken home earlier this week and had commented: “At least let his parents take him home to die, for goodness sake. He’s THEIR little boy, nobody else’s. #AlfieEvans.” That’s the point that appears to have gotten lost.

    Evans’ understandable anger and arguable hyperbole has stirred up unrest in the UK, to the point that their media has focused on threats against Alder Hey and medical personnel. The Independent reported on “guerrilla warfare tactics” by supporters of the Evans’, and The Sun reports that nurses are being advised to “hide their uniforms” when out in public for fear of reprisals. Threats and invective toward hospital personnel is both unacceptable in any circumstance and deeply unhelpful to the Evans’ in particular, and law enforcement has a legitimate role in interdicting such threats. The police’s warnings about investigating “malicious communications” as well as “threatening behaviour” looks like an equally bad overreaction, however.

    Guy Benson wonders after this and several other cases of authoritarian responses: can we still describe the UK as a free country?

    While the Brits remain — and should remain — our close friends, and while our national interests still align in many ways, I cannot help but look on with sadness and occasional revulsion as the British State increasingly seems to regard and treat its citizens as subjects.

    The people of the UK are still able to elect their leaders and impose dramatic changes, of course, so it would be a gross overstatement to liken their government (as some critics have) to a totalitarian regime. But a string of recent stories and incidents have raised serious fears in my mind about whether Great Britain is becoming something other than — something less than — a truly free country. …

    As you contemplate my original question, also mull over this parting thought: If you were a family friend or relative of Alfie Evans today, you would be liable to be charged and prosecuted for too “abusively” objecting to his treatment (or lack thereof), or for quoting lyrics in his memory on social media that may be deemed unsuitable by some unaccountable tribunal. Doing either of those things would place you in far graver legal danger than any bureaucrat or magistrate who ordered Mr. and Mrs. Evans to remain in Great Britain until their son has perished, compelling them to forego privately-funded medical opportunities elsewhere. How deeply, astoundingly, enragingly perverse. Free people have a general sense of what freedom looks like, and that isn’t it.


    Ask Tom Evans if he feels as though he still lives in a free country. Will the answer be hyperbolic … or just accurate?

    Update
    : On the other hand, maybe “hostage” isn’t at all hyperbolic. Good Lord.


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    This reads like a hostage note. The @AlderHey staff had spoke on background to the press, saying Alfie's isn't going home until there was a "sea change" in the father's attitude, i.e., submission to his social betters. Nurse Ratched comes to mind. https://twitter.com/JudithMoritz/status/989552096553947138 …
    2:03 PM - Apr 26, 2018



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    Statement just issued by parents of Alfie Evans, now asking for privacy and pledging to ‘form a relationship’ with @AlderHey #BBCNews
    1:09 PM - Apr 26, 2018





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    Alfie's U.K. murder accomplished:

    https://www.alipac.us/f19/alfie-evan...e-dies-358191/

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