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Boy Scouts defeat ACLU
Court dismisses suit to bar use of military fort

Posted: April 5, 2007
8:25 p.m. Eastern


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President Bush waves to crowd before addressing 2005 National Scout Jamboree at Fort A.P. Hill in Virginia (photo: bsajamboree.org)
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit dismissed a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union to stop the Defense Department from allowing the Boy Scouts of America to hold its National Jamboree every four years at Fort A.P. Hill in Fredericksburg, Va.

The ACLU, suing on behalf of individual named taxpayers, had argued allowing the Boy Scouts to hold the event on public property is an unconstitutional establishment of religion, because the organization's membership is limited to those who believe in God.

The ACLU points out the Boy Scouts require members to swear an oath to "do my duty to God and my country."

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The court ruled Wednesday, however, the ACLU did not show standing to bring the lawsuit.

Peter Ferrara, general counsel of the American Civil Rights Union explained the ACLU could complain about the policy to Congress or the president, but it "had no business bringing a lawsuit over it and asking the courts to step in."

The ACRU is a non-partisan legal policy organization launched in 1998 that says it is "dedicated to defending all the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment."

The Defense Department, which sees holding the event at the fort as a boon to military recruitment, is expressly authorized to host the event by a federal statute enacted by Congress, Ferrara points out.

Seven Presidents have attended and spoken at the jamboree, beginning with Franklin Roosevelt in 1937. President Bush spoke at the 2005 event, attended by more than 40,000 scouts. The next jamboree is scheduled for 2010 to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts of America.

As WND reported in 2005, 90 members of Congress filed a federal appeals court brief declaring support for the Defense Department's sponsorship of the jamboree.

The brief asserted the Defense Department's support comes in the form of "non-religious supplies and services."

"The military's rental of forklifts and trucks, transportation and military equipment, restoration of Fort A.P. Hill after the Jamboree, and provision of other secular services is clearly 'neutral and nonideological,'" the brief said. "The only possible message that the military's aid can be viewed as conveying is that patriotism, self-reliance, physical fitness and support of the military are positive things."

Also in 2005, then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., introduced legislation to make sure the Boy Scouts can use government facilities for gatherings, meetings and events.

In 2004, the Pentagon settled a lawsuit by telling military bases around the world not to become direct sponsors of Boy Scout troops or Cub Scout dens. Military personnel can now sponsor Boy Scout groups only in their civilian capacity.

As WND reported, the threat of lawsuits by the ACLU has forced the BSA to pull the charters of thousands of scouting units from public schools.
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55062

The ACLU really hates Christians. To go after the Boy Scouts is just too mean spirited.

I'm glad they lost. Time to kick that organization to the curb.

The ACLU points out the Boy Scouts require members to swear an oath to "do my duty to God and my country."

I think not only does the ACLU have a problem with the oath to God, but they also hate the oath to country. Now, if it was an oath to Satan, Ted Kennedy, RuPaul, or even Allah, and the EU, they would not raise an eyebrow.

The ACLU will not quit when it comes to fighting the Scouts. It is a good organization that does good things, thus it should not exist, according the ACLU. The only question is, what will the next lawsuit be?

TYRANT!!

Did you see the MUSLIM PRAYER AGAINST INFIDELS that was said in the TEX senate???

The ACLU points out the Boy Scouts require members to swear an oath to "do my duty to God and my country."

I did that in Boy Scouts and at the time wasnt real clear on who God was, but I know now and am glad I did.

Agian they have gone too far what about the girls, Girl Scout troops?
Boy the ACLU has just about ticked off every one in this country for one reason or another and for no good reason.

I want the world to know the BOY SCOUT Motto if the would followed it we would have no problems I sent this to every ACLU office on my list.



Cub Scout Values
As a Cub Scout, you do your best and you help others. You learn the Cub Scout Promise and the Law of the Pack. You also learn what they mean.


The Cub Scout Promise
I promise to do my best
To do my duty to God and my country,
To help other people, and
To obey the Law of the Pack.

It's important not just to say the Promise, but to know what it means.

I promise
When you say "I promise," it means you will do your best to keep your word. It is very important to keep your promises and to stand by the things you say. This shows people that they can trust you and rely on you.
To do my best
Giving your best effort is right and honest. Always remember that your best is not the same as someone else's best. Doing the best you can is more important than trying to be better than someone else.
To do my duty to God
Doing what is right and not doing things we know are wrong is one way to do our duty to God. Another way is to practice our religion at home and at our place of worship. We should respect other people's religious beliefs even if they are different from our own.
And my country
Duty to country starts with being a good citizen. This means caring about the people in your community and helping people. Good citizenship also means obeying the law. It means standing up for the rights of all Americans. Good citizens also take care of America's land, water, and natural places.
To help other people
Helping other people means doing things to help those around you—your family, friends, classmates, neighbors, and others in your community—without having to be told.
And to obey the Law of the Pack
Besides obeying the Law of the Pack (below), you should obey the laws in your community and state, the rules in your school, the rules at home, and the code of conduct in your den.
The Law of the Pack
The Cub Scout follows Akela.
The Cub Scout helps the pack go.
The pack helps the Cub Scout grow.
The Cub Scout gives goodwill.

Just as the parts of the Cub Scout Promise have a meaning, each part of the Law of the Pack has a meaning.

The Cub Scout follows Akela
Akela means "good leader." To a Cub Scout, Akela may be a parent, a teacher, a religious leader, a Cub Scout leader, or another guide. A Cub Scout should choose a good leader to follow.
The Cub Scout helps the pack go
Your pack needs you to be a good member. A good member goes to all meetings, follows the leaders, and pitches in to make the pack better. Being a good member of the pack means doing your share, and sometimes a little more, to help the pack.
The pack helps the Cub Scout grow
With the leaders and Cub Scouts all working together, the pack helps you grow into a better person. You will learn new things and new skills. You'll learn the right way to do the right things. And along the way, you will help others.
The Cub Scout gives goodwill
Doing good things for others doesn't just make them happy. It also gives them the desire (or the "will") to do good things for others in turn. In this way, the good things you do for others make ripples that pass the goodwill from person to person. The spirit of helpfulness and good cheer spreads from you to others in your neighborhood.


I DARE ANYONE AMERICAN TO FIND FAULT IN THIS

Originally Posted by jp_48504

The ACLU points out the Boy Scouts require members to swear an oath to "do my duty to God and my country."

I did that in Boy Scouts and at the time wasnt real clear on who God was, but I know now and am glad I did.

Good for you,
but for some who dont believe

GOD could mean
G Good
O Orderly
D Direction

Boy Scout Oath, Law, Motto, and Slogan
Scout Oath (or Promise)

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

Scout Law

TRUSTWORTHY
A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him.

LOYAL
A Scout is true to his family, Scout leaders, friends, school, and nation.

HELPFUL
A Scout is concerned about other people. He does things willingly for others without pay or reward.

FRIENDLY
A Scout is a friend to all. He is a brother to other Scouts. He seeks to understand others. He respects those with ideas and customs other than his own.

COURTEOUS
A Scout is polite to everyone regardless of age or position. He knows good manners make it easier for people to get along together.

KIND
A Scout understands there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. He does not hurt or kill harmless things without reason.

OBEDIENT
A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobey them.

CHEERFUL
A Scout looks for the bright side of things. He cheerfully does tasks that come his way. He tries to make others happy.

THRIFTY
A Scout works to pay his way and to help others. He saves for unforeseen needs. He protects and conserves natural resources. He carefully uses time and property.

BRAVE
A Scout can face danger even if he is afraid. He has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at or threaten him.

CLEAN
A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He goes around with those who believe in living by these same ideals. He helps keep his home and community clean.

REVERENT
A Scout is reverent towards God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

Scout Motto

Be Prepared

Scout Slogan

Do a Good Turn Daily


http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-503a.html

I am a scout master and have been involed with the Scouts for many years

The ACLU, suing on behalf of individual named taxpayers, had argued allowing the Boy Scouts to hold the event on public property is an unconstitutional establishment of religion, because the organization's membership is limited to those who believe in God.

The above quote about being limited to only those boys who belive in God Is a lie and not true never was and never will be!
wa acept all children/young men, from all religions ,all walks of life, no mater what.
I am a scout master and have been involed with the scouts for many years and it shocks me that thing that people in this county say about us with out knowing the truth

A Scout is reverent towards God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

When you say "I promise," it means you will do your best to keep your word

Doing what is right and not doing things we know are wrong is one way to do our duty to God.

The ACLU has members and children of members that are in the Boy Scouts of America.
Just look it up. Im sure you guys will find it interesting. God Bless the Boy Scouts of America, our future leaders just KICKED the ACLU TO THE CURB

From a Nine year old Scout

So the Aclu if I knew what the were would be the retarted people of the world