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08-13-2010, 08:38 PM #1
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BREAKING ... Obama Supports Proposed Mosque Near Ground Zero
Just coming in now
More to come
I just have the headline at this point
http://www.foxnews.com/
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08-13-2010, 09:04 PM #2
Re: BREAKING ... Obama Supports Proposed Mosque Near Ground
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08-13-2010, 09:11 PM #3
Of course he does! Those are his people and his religion... we all saw him kow-tow to the Saudi sheik and diss the Queen of England. I would expect no less from him. IMO he's probably been behind the scenes making all kinds of promises/ and or threats to get this okayed.
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08-13-2010, 09:14 PM #4
Obama Comes Out in Favor of Allowing Mosque Near Ground Zero
Published August 13, 2010
President Obama on Friday forcefully endorsed building a mosque near ground zero, saying the country's founding principles demanded no less.
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama on Friday forcefully endorsed building a mosque near ground zero, saying the country's founding principles demanded no less.
"As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said, weighing in for the first time on a controversy that has riven New York City and the nation.
"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said. "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."
Obama made the comments at an annual dinner in the White House State Dining Room celebrating the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
Republicans were quick to pounce on the president's remarks.
"President Obama is wrong," said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y. "It is insensitive and uncaring for the Muslim community to build a mosque in the shadow of ground zero. While the Muslim community has the right to build the mosque they are abusing that right by needlessly offending so many people who have suffered so much."
The White House had not previously taken a stand on the mosque, which would be part of a $100 million Islamic center to be built two blocks from where nearly 3,000 people perished when hijacked jetliners slammed into the World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001. Press secretary Robert Gibbs had insisted it was a local matter.
It was already much more than that, sparking debate around the country as top Republicans including Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich announced their opposition. So did the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish civil rights group.
Obama elevated it to a presidential issue Friday without equivocation.
While insisting that the place where the twin towers once stood was indeed "hallowed ground," Obama said that the proper way to honor it was to apply American values
"Our capacity to show not merely tolerance, but respect to those who are different from us -- a way of life that stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of those who attacked us on that September morning, and who continue to plot against us today," he said.
Entering the highly charged election-year debate, Obama surely knew that his words would not only make headlines but be heard by Muslims worldwide. The president has made it a point to reach out to the global Muslim community, and guests at Friday's dinner included ambassadors and officials from numerous Muslim nations, including Saudi Arabia and Indonesia.
While his pronouncement concerning the mosque might find favor in the Muslim world, Obama's stance runs counter to the opinions of the majority of Americans, according to polls. A CNN/Opinion Research poll released this week found that nearly 70 percent of Americans opposed the mosque plan while just 29 percent approved.
A number of Democratic politicians have shied away from the controversy. New York's mayor, independent Michael Bloomberg, has been a strong supporter of the mosque, which has won approval from local planning boards.
The group behind the $100 million project, the Cordoba Initiative, describes it as a Muslim-themed community center. Early plans call not only for prayer space but for a swimming pool, culinary school, art studios and other features. Developers envision it as a hub for interfaith interaction, as well as a place for Muslims to bridge some of their faith's own schisms.
Opponents, including some Sept. 11 victims' relatives, see the prospect of a mosque so near the destroyed trade center as an insult to the memory of those killed by Islamic terrorists in the 2001 attacks. Some of the Sept. 11 victims' relatives, however, are in favor.
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08-13-2010, 09:28 PM #5
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.No matter how Obama chooses to see this for the USA,
In the Muslim world this will be seen politically as a Victory"When injustice become law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson
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08-13-2010, 09:33 PM #6
Folks, when is enough going to be enough? We are almost to the precipice. Are Americans going to stand by and watch as we all go over the cliff like lemmings?
...I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid...
William Barret Travis
Letter From The Alamo Feb 24, 1836
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08-13-2010, 10:27 PM #7
They are discussing this on Greta VanSustern now. Obama is ignoring those who believe that this is a direct insult to Americans and a trophy of victory for the Muslim world.
Rick Santorum is guest - He says "Smacks of arrogance"
Psalm 23, it is written, "The Lord is my Shepherd"Matthew 19:26
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
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08-13-2010, 11:49 PM #8AprilGuest
I voted in poll.
Do You Agree With Obama on Mosque Near Ground Zero in NYC
Yes, we have a duty to protect freedom of religion 6% (3,638 votes)
No, this is about sensitivity, not religion 85% (48,658 votes)
Partly, but the mosque's developers still should consider a more appropriate site 6% (3,501 votes)
Other (leave a comment) 3% (1,467 votes)
Total Votes: 57,264
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/ ... -zero-nyc/
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08-14-2010, 12:17 AM #9
How many actually believe that our founders, those that built this nation and shed their blood actually ever thought that their decendents would be so stupid as to allow our religion and culture to be so diluted?
Say when you have had enough of the pc and perhaps we could re-visted the old history and the writings of those who came before us. There was a common interest coupled to a recognition that in order to have peace and preservation of our laws, faith and ways of living that we would have to excercise some discretion and wisdom concerning others in the world and who we should admit into our country. Politically correct? Perhaps not today. PC and multi-cuturalism is suicidal. Our founders knew that there were indeed some religions as well as nationalities that would not be compatable with our Constitution. They understood history.
For those that would find offense with some of the old writings and opinions drawn from understanding of history and faith, then ask yourself what was said by those of your roots towards others in the world?
Common sense goes a long ways when preservation is considered.
I have thought about sharing some history,..........I fear that some may take offense with out thinking or setting aside emotional responses.
Divide and conquer has worked well when combined with PC.
Hey TexasBorn, the good thing is that the subject has hit the stage. We are pushing the issues up front and center, and there are many more yet to come. Will we be able to continue the debate? When you look back, how have we done? The ground is shifting.
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08-14-2010, 01:18 AM #10
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Thank you for sharing Roundabout...
Makes perfect sense to me.
While they are trying to wipe out Christianity more and more Mosques go up all over the country. This Mosque at Ground 0 however is an "In Your Face" statement. I don't believe for one second that this is about religion.
There is a limit to Tolerance.[/b]"When injustice become law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson
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