Thread: County Commissioner Will Take Jail Over Being Denied Her Religious Rights

County Commissioner Will Take Jail Over Being Denied Her Religious Rights

Posted on March 28, 2014 by Gary DeMar

Judges are stepping in where they have no jurisdiction, no constitutional backing, no understanding of the limits of the federal government in relation to the states, and almost no knowledge of American history.

“A Carroll County [Maryland] commissioner said she was ‘willing to go to jail’ opening up a board meeting with a prayer despite a federal judge in Maryland ruling the board has to stop with opening meetings with prayers that reference Jesus Christ or any specific deity.

“‘If we cease to believe that our rights come from God, we cease to be America,’ Robin Bartlett Frazier said Thursday. ‘We’ve been told to be careful. But we’re going to be careful all the way to Communism if we don’t start standing up and saying “no.”’”

First, note that this is a federal judge who has made this ruling. The federal government does not have jurisdiction over what goes on in county commission meetings.

Second, the First Amendment is directed at Congress: “Congress shall make no law. . .” Congress has not made any law.

Third, if Congress had been involved, it can’t make any law establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise of religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

So in what way does this federal judge have the right to intervene in a county commission meeting? Absolutely none.
Fourth, Article 3 of the “Declaration of Rights” under the Maryland Constitution states the following:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution thereof, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people thereof.

Fifth, the Preamble to the Maryland Constitution states the following.

We, the People of the State of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty, and taking into our serious consideration the best means of establishing a good Constitution in this State for the sure foundation and more permanent security thereof, declare.

Sixth, Article 36 states that no person shall be “be deemed incompetent as a witness, or juror, on account of his religious belief; provided, he believes in the existence of God, and that under His dispensation such person will be held morally accountable for his acts, and be rewarded or punished therefore either in this world or in the world to come.”
Historically speaking, the “God” of Maryland’s founding is the God of Christianity. This is clearly stated in numerous documents and given the fact that Maryland was first settled by Roman Catholics and is described as a “Christian Commonwealth.”

Seventh, as to the sectarian nature of county commission prayers, we can find support for them in the United States Constitution and the use of “in the year of our Lord,” a reference to Jesus Christ.

The next time Robin Bartlett Frazier prays, she can begin by reciting a section from the Preamble to Maryland’s Constitution (“We, the People of the State of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God”) and close with, “and I make this prayer on this day ‘in the name of our Lord Christ,’” a phrase that was used by Thomas Jefferson.

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“‘If we cease to believe that our rights come from God, we cease to be America,’ Robin Bartlett Frazier said Thursday. ‘We’ve been told to be careful. But we’re going to be careful all the way to Communism if we don’t start standing up and saying “no.”’”

He yea He-yea... Now that is something we can all take to the bank!!!!

New York Town Ground Zero for Religious Freedom Fight

Posted 19 hours ago by Tad Cronn Filed under 1st Amendment, Atheism, Christianity, Congress, Constitution, Judaism, Liberalism, Religion, Supreme Court
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For as long as anyone can remember, the Town Board of Greece, N.Y., has opened its meetings with a prayer. It's almost always a Christian prayer, but the Board has also allowed prayers led by a Jewish resident, a Baha'i minister and a Wiccan priestess.

But it's evidently the Christian prayers that upset two residents who sued the town to stop exercising the First Amendment before board meetings.
Now the town is awaiting word, expected any day, from the Supreme Court as to whether it can continue the tradition.

Greece's Town Board is no different than Congress, state legislatures, city councils and other legislative bodies across this land that open proceedings with a prayer. It's been the practice of Congress since the country's founding and continues to this day.

The Supreme Court ruling in Greece v. Galloway could potentially uphold or overturn that tradition. The case was heard in November, and the implications will depend on whether the court makes a narrow or broad ruling.

The lawsuit was filed in 2008 by Linda Stephens, an atheist and member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation -- which is little more than an anti-Christian hate group -- and Susan Galloway, who presents herself as Jewish. The lawsuit was filed on the women's behalf by Americans United for Separation of Church and State, another atheist activist group.

The women claim that Christian prayers make them uncomfortable.

Initially, the pair lost their lawsuit when a judge ruled that the town did not intentionally exclude non-Christians, but they won on appeal and the case made its way to the Supreme Court. When they heard the case in November, the justices asked questions about various scenarios, such as having officials edit prayers to be nonsectarian.

Justice Sam Alito was particularly skeptical that a diverse region such as Greece could possibly come up with a "prayer" that would satisfy everybody.

The First Amendment prohibits Congress from establishing religion or prohibiting the free exercise of religion. The idea of some government agency cobbling together a "nonsectarian" prayer smacks of establishing a religion just as much as prohibiting prayers altogether smacks of establishing atheism as the state religion.

The best answer is the one Greece already uses: Have the pre-meeting prayer, don't require anyone to participate, and let anyone who makes a request lead a prayer at the next meeting or have their favorite clergy person give it. If the atheists want to chime in, they can either offer an atheist benediction or have a moment of silence.

That is diversity. Everyone gets to participate, no one is restricted from participating.

Religious freedom shouldn't be held hostage to anti-Christians' "uncomfortable" feelings.


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Uncomfortable feelings lots of stuff going in this Country is giving me uncomfortable feelings!!! Maybe I should sue too!!! I am so sick of hearing about diversity, so called diversity means something different to every group, enough with the diversity bull crap, it is nothing but a scap goat to air thier individual grievances... !!