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    Is 'Democratic Socialism' a Cover for Communism?



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    Is 'Democratic Socialism' a Cover for Communism?
    Commentary Last month, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) claimed to oppose…

    Christopher C. Hull

    June 10, 2019 Updated: June 10, 2019

    Commentary
    Last month, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) claimed to oppose Soviet “authoritarian communism” and to support “democratic socialism.”
    Yet, according to Bishop E.W. Jackson, chairman of the new group Stand Against Communism, “Socialism and communism are exactly the same, and we will not allow euphemisms to lull us to sleep.”
    Who is right?
    A set of experts assembled May 20 argued that America needs to beware of both.
    They dedicated themselves to pushing back against the increasing prevalence in America of an ideology implicated in the extermination of an estimated 94,351,000 human lives, as of 1999.

    The Soviet Union

    Likewise, at a CNN town hall in New Hampshire, an attendee told Sanders that her father’s family had escaped the Soviet Union in 1979, “fleeing from some of the very socialist policies that you seem eager to implement in this country.”
    Sanders, however, attempted to distinguish Moscow’s murderous Marxism from his version of democratic socialism.
    He began by arguing: “Is it your assumption that I supported or believe in authoritarian communism that existed in the Soviet Union? I don’t. I never have, and I opposed it. I believe in a vigorous democracy.”
    That might come as a surprise to those with whom he “honeymooned” in the USSR in 1988, a trip on which he sang “This Land Is Your Land” to his Russian hosts while shirtless after relaxing in a sauna.

    Cuba
    Sanders’s stance might also come as a surprise to those who fled communist Cuba, given that Sanders also once claimed Cubans hadn’t risen up against the repressive regime because totalitarian dictator Fidel Castro had “educated their kids, gave their kids health care, totally transformed the society.”
    At the Stand Against Communism event, one of those who escaped Cuba, Nelson Velez, chairman of the Virginia Tea Party Federation, observed, “I have a real, intimate, undying, abiding love for this country,” but has noticed, “people who come here legally from Communist countries are more adept to understanding freedom than the people who are native-born to this country.”
    For instance, Velez recounted stories he heard in his youth of how prosperous and beautiful the country had been.
    Yet Marxist revolutionary Fidel Castro had persuaded his countrymen to sacrifice it all.
    How? Velez asked.
    Castro “talk[ed] about hope and change” without specifics, opposed corruption, claimed to hate communism, dictatorships, and divisive class warfare, and claimed to “love” the Church and God.
    “The reason he was successful,” Velez argued, “was because he lied. And the reason that the lies were successful was [that] he presented this to the American media, and the American media laundered … the fact that he was surrounded by communist infiltrators and his own violent past.”
    Because of that, said Velez, both Castro and his brother Raul, now head of state, “have said over and over again publicly that without the American press they would not be able to … win the revolution.”

    Venezuela
    Sanders’s sidestep might also surprise the 3.4 million Venezuelans who have fled the Bolivarian Bolsheviks, whose iron grip on their country continues to hold, given that Sanders listed Nicolas Maduro’s totalitarian state among places “the American dream is more apt to be realized” than America, given that “incomes are actually more equal” there.
    The problem, of course, is that some incomes are more equal than others.
    In fact, not so long ago, Sanders defended bread lines in Latin America, saying: “Bread lines are a good thing. In a lot of countries, the rich get food and the poor starve to death.”
    True—in countries like the Soviet Union, which deliberately starved millions in Ukraine. Like China, which starved tens of millions during its Great Leap Forward. And like Venezuela, where the average citizen reported losing about 25 pounds in 2017.
    So, as a counterpoint, “ask people now who are leaving Venezuela how they feel about socialism, how they feel about Communism,” said Velez, reminding the audience that U.S. actor Sean Penn had once come to visit Hugo Chavez, the nation’s late Marxist dictator, who was democratically elected—“a socialist Democrat.”
    Yet in 2012, Velez said, the “free people” of Venezuela were “disarmed, and now they’re being run over by tanks.”

    Nordic Countries
    Sanders has argued separately that “I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn what they have accomplished for their working people.”
    Let’s do so.
    Denmark’s prime minister, in response to Americans referring to Denmark as an example of socialism’s success, has said: “Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.”
    The Economist labels Scandanavians “stout free-traders who resist the temptation to intervene even to protect iconic companies.”
    Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and the Netherlands are all in the top 10 most globalized countries in the world, and Norway is in the top 20. According to the World Bank, Denmark and Norway are in the top 10 countries in the world in “Ease of Doing Business,” and Sweden and Finland are in the top 20.
    Sweden, Norway, and Denmark have no nationally mandated minimum wages at all.
    Sweden even adopted a universal school choice system in the 1990s, including for-profit schools, and it has worked.
    Perhaps Sanders should look to these countries to learn what they have accomplished for their working people: Stay far away from a socialist planned economy and instead remain a market economy; preserve the benefits of free trade and refuse to intervene to save even the best-connected companies; maintain a globalized and interconnected economy; maximize ease of doing business; eliminate minimum wages; and adopt universal school choice nationwide, including for-profit schools.
    Sign me up for socialism.

    America
    Seriously, though, does anyone really think democratic socialism in America might collapse into authoritarian communism? Come on.
    Diana West, author of “American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation’s Character,suggests Americans have never truly faced socialism’s evil, “in part because of the great success of the Communist infiltration of American institutions of power and influence,” which “helped establish the bureaucracies of what we call the ‘Deep State’ today.”
    This leads to Western “institutional reluctance” to open the past’s Pandora’s box, since “communist crimes depended on Western complicity.”
    Delving into those crimes, West reported that experts documenting U.S. federal government officials assisting the Soviets, activities “revved up during” then-President Franklin Roosevelt’s administration in the 1930s and 1940s, now put their number at over 500, towering over the handful of Aldrich Ameses and Rosenbergs of popular recollection, which she called “a national security fiasco of a magnitude that has never entered national comprehension.”
    As a voice from inside this crisis, former Trump campaign aide Jerome Corsi, author of “Silent No More: How I Became a Political Prisoner of Mueller’s ‘Witch Hunt,'” appeared fresh from his persecution at the hands of former special counsel Robert Mueller. For historical context, Corsi contended, after World War II, it had become clear the United States wouldn’t fall to a classic Marxist revolution.
    Thus as early as the 1950s, Corsi reported, the Communist Party made an explicit decision that the best way to take power was by co-opting the Democratic Party the CPUSA had long reviled. For instance, an FBI report on Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis related, “Members of the subversive element in Honolulu were concentrating their efforts on infiltration of the Democratic Party through control of Precinct Clubs and organizations.”
    On April 6, 1950, Davis himself was elected assistant secretary and delegate to the Territorial Democratic Convention later that month. Twenty years later, Marshall became a mentor to the young Barack Obama.
    West warned, “There still exists a threat to this republic from the ideology of Marx and Lenin.” She noted that after the USSR’s 1991 collapse, “these ideologies were supposed to be obsolete,” but “the Free World never fully exposed and judged to be evil” the history leading up to that fall—“not on a par with its exposure and judgment of Nazism.”
    Something similar has happened to America’s unions since then, said Trevor Loudon, filmmaker on the Red threat and author of “The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists, and Progressives in the U.S. Congress.” He claims that in 1995, the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), America’s largest Marxist organization, took over the AFL-CIO, America’s largest labor union, under the leadership of John Sweeney.
    Progressive Policy Institute’s Joel Kotkin goes further: “Sweeney is an advocate of European-style democratic socialism. He has opened the AFL-CIO to participation by delegates openly linked to the Communist Party, which enthusiastically backed his ascent. The U.S. Communist Party [CPUSA] says it is now ‘in complete accord’ with the AFL-CIO’s program. ‘The radical shift in both leadership and policy is a very positive, even historic change,’ wrote CPUSA National Chairman Gus Hall in 1996 after the AFL-CIO convention.”
    The change, according to Loudon, opened the floodgates of left-leaning radicals into an American labor movement long caught in the crossfire between Soviet sympathizers, mafia bosses, and critics of communism.
    The AFL-CIO’s 1995 about-face, Loudon said, changed “the face of the Democratic Party beyond belief.” In 1994, only 25 percent of Democrats identified as liberal; by 2018, that figure had more than doubled to 51 percent—a majority for the first time in history, according to Gallup. Even more telling, earlier this year, a survey suggested a soaring 77 percent of Democrats believe America would be “better off” under socialism.
    Today, West says, Americans are learning of another such fiasco: “cells inside the U.S. government that have attempted to overturn the 2016 election and destroy the presidency of Donald Trump.” Further, she argued, “the ‘red thread’ of Marxist influence links these two fiascoes into a continuing crisis,” as laid out in her latest work, “The Red Thread: A Search for Ideological Drivers Inside the Anti-Trump Conspiracy.”

    The Killing Fields?
    Just before he died, Cambodian communist despot Pol Pot, who oversaw the annihilation of up to one-quarter of his country’s population—including citizens condemned for wearing glassestold The New York Times: ‘‘I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you can look at me: am I a savage person?’’
    Pol Pot came to carry out the struggle.
    Sanders believes in a vigorous democracy.
    The problem with both socialism and communism is their philosophical foundation, which now has nearly 100 million corpses littered around it: It supplants God with the state.
    Start there, and prepare for the killing fields.
    We must not allow euphemisms to lull us to sleep.
    Christopher C. Hull holds a doctorate in government from Georgetown University. He is president of Issue Management Inc., a distinguished senior fellow at the Gatestone Institute, a senior fellow at Americans for Intelligence Reform, and author of “Grassroots Rules” (Stanford, 2007).
    Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


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    Communists just kill you and take your stuff after they disarm you
    Socialist just steal your stuff because they haven't figured out how to get the guns yet
    Democratic Socialists vote to steal your stuff to give the theft legitimacy
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    It is a sad commentary that this lazy old commie kook can rise this high in stature within the Democrat Party.
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    Sanders embraces democratic socialism, calls for New Deal revival in campaign address
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    Wants to RAISE your taxes to pay for all the "free" stuff!

    The "free" stuff is not free, is it, you OLD BURNED OUT commie!
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    you cant make this up; its like they are shocked this would happen



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    Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care



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    Jeffrey Cimmino - March 8, 2019 5:10 PM
    The government of Finland collapsed Friday due to the rising cost of universal health care and the prime minister's failure to enact reforms to the system.
    Prime Minister Juha Sipila and the rest of the cabinet resigned after the governing coalition failed to pass reforms in parliament to the country's regional government and health services, the Wall Street Journal reports. Finland faces an aging population, with around 26 percent of its citizens expected to be over 65 by the year 2030, an increase of 5 percent from today.
    Sipila's reforms "intended to remove power from the 295 municipalities that currently oversee health and social care, and place responsibility within a leaner, more efficient system of 18 elected regional authorities," according to the Journal. The prime minister also wanted patients to be able to choose from a range of public and private providers.
    Sipila said "there's no other way for Finland to succeed" besides these reforms, which could have led to $3.4 billion in savings for the government.
    Finland's aging population is increasing the financial strain on its health care system. From a BBC News report:


    As an increasing number of people live longer in retirement, the cost of providing pension and healthcare benefits can rise. Those increased costs are paid for by taxes collected from of the working-age population – who make up a smaller percentage of the population than in decades past.
    In 2018, those aged 65 or over made up 21.4% of Finland's population, the fourth highest after Germany, Portugal, Greece, and Italy, according to Eurostat.
    Finland's welfare system is also generous in its provisions, making it relatively expensive. Attempts at reform have plagued Finnish governments for years.
    Reuters reports that soaring treatment costs and longer life spans have particularly affected Nordic countries.
    "Nordic countries, where comprehensive welfare is the cornerstone of the social model, have been among the most affected," according to Reuters. "But reform has been controversial and, in Finland, plans to cut costs and boost efficiency have stalled for years."
    Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care. Finland's crisis in particular comes as calls for universal health care have grown louder among Democrats in the United States.
    Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I., Vt.) "Medicare for all" proposal would cost the U.S. over $32 trillion over ten years, according to an analysis by the Mercatus Center. It would also require enormous tax increases as "a doubling of all currently projected federal individual and corporate income tax collections would be insufficient to finance the added federal costs of the plan."
    Another Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Kamala Harris (D., Calif.), has called for eliminating private health insurance, although a spokesperson suggested she is open to multiple paths to "Medicare for all."
    Self-described democratic socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) has also called for "Medicare for all."
    The Kaiser Family Foundation found that 58 percent of Americans oppose "Medicare for all" if told it would eliminate private health insurance plans, and 60 percent oppose it if it requires higher taxes.

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    How 'Medicare-For-All' Destroys 'Medicare'



    The 2013 "Lie of the Year" was Barack Obama's false claim, "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it." Millions of Democrats found that out the hard way... The "Lie of the Year" for 2019 will be, "If you like your Medicare, you can keep it."

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    The 2013 "Lie of the Year"
    was Barack Obama's false claim, "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it."
    Millions of Democrats found that out the hard way.
    The "Lie of the Year" for 2019 will be, "If you like your Medicare, you can keep it."
    Medicare for All doesn’t actually offer Medicare for all. It deprives senior citizens of Medicare.
    Medicare is a program available to senior citizens and the disabled. The idea was that you work, pay taxes and those taxes are used to provide for your health care when you retire. You don’t have to use Medicare and there are a variety of managed Medicare plans by providers offering more options.
    The first thing that Medicare for All would do is eliminate Medicare, along with all other health plans, and misleadingly use that name to create a government health care system. That’s like announcing an iPhone-for-All government plan that takes away everyone’s iPhones, and replaces them with tin cans that have an Apple logo slapped on them. It’s a massive health care robbery that adds insult to injury.

    Medicare for All doesn’t expand Medicare. It eliminates Medicare for those who have it.
    The lying got started early.
    Two-thirds of Democrat voters think that Medicare for All will let them keep their existing employer health plans. The truth is that all private health plans covering medical care will be banned.
    The 2020 Democrat frontrunners, including Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders backed Bernie’s Medicare for All act that eliminates private health insurance.
    At the first Democrat debates, Kamala, Warren and Harris all raised their hands when asked if they would abolish private insurance.
    What they didn’t admit is that Medicare for All doesn’t just abolish private health plans, but also public ones. Medicare for All will eliminate your employer plan and it will kill your Medicare too.


    Senator Kamala Harris has been frantically lying about her support for eliminating everyone’s private plans. First, Harris claimed that she didn’t understand the question. Then she suggested that some private insurance might be allowed to survive as long as they covered cosmetic surgery. Since then she switched to a variation of Obama’s Lie of the Year by insisting that people would keep their doctors.
    Probably. Possibly. Maybe.
    “You’re not going to have to lose your doctor. It is very unlikely,” she told CNN.
    "Well 91% of the doctors in the United States are in the Medicare system, so the odds-on favorite is that you will be able to keep your doctor," she told an Iowa town hall.
    Except that Medicare for All isn’t Medicare. It’s a whole other system with different reimbursement rates. And that means completely different levels of access to health care and resource management.
    With a 40% estimated drop in provider reimbursement, and no private health plans as a buffer, the 91% won’t be signing up for her plan. Medicare for All will eliminate insurance and replace a multi-tiered system, one in which the middle class, including seniors, had better access to health care, with two tiers.
    Either you can afford to pay for private health care from qualified doctors and hospitals. Or you can’t. And then you’re going to be stuck in Medicare for All’s resources shortages and waiting lists. Either you can afford the tests you need that may save your life. Or all you’ll get is bargain basement care.
    Medicare for All more closely resembles Medicaid for All.
    Or almost all.
    Medicare for All squeezes seniors, the middle class and the working class into Medicaid for All, while Bernie, Kamala, Warren and the other millionaires have access to private doctors and hospitals.
    Currently, around 1 out of 3 doctors don’t accept Medicaid patients. And that’s before a radical transition to the punishing system being proposed by Sanders, Harris and Warren.
    If your doctor isn’t in Medicare for All, not only won’t you get to keep him, but trying to will see him or her banned from the system. If your doctor chooses to participate in Medicare for All, how often you see them will be determined by the government. If you need to see your doctor more frequently and want to pay them privately, that’s illegal.
    And forget hospitals.
    The care Medicare patients receive at a hospital will look nothing like the care Medicare for All patients will get. Medicare for All doesn’t pay for procedures. It negotiates a “global budget” with hospitals. Hospitals are paid a set amount and then they decide how to use that money to help patients.
    Medicare and private health plans suffer from overuse. Medicare for All solves that problem.
    Need an MRI? An ECG? Any tests to check for the possibility of a problem. Good luck, pal. It’s not in the “global budget”. That means the tests aren’t happening. And you’ll just have to wait around for clearer symptoms of heart disease or cancer. Unless you die in the meantime which solves that problem.
    You’re not on Medicare. You’re on Medicare for All. And that means you’re going to enjoy a standard of care previously experienced at the VA or in Cuba. Both greatly admired by Senator Bernie Sanders.
    None of this is how actual Medicare works.
    Medicare depends on healthy people paying toward their care in their elder years. That means payroll taxes. It also means hospitals using private insurance payments to subsidize Medicare patients. Eliminate private insurance and every hospital is underwater. Put everyone on a government plan and there’s no longer even the illusion of an economic model that can cover our medical costs.
    Senator Bernie Sanders estimated that his plan, which has been endorsed by Warren and Harris, will cost $40 trillion over 10 years. That’s the entire federal budget for every year. Doubled.
    That kind of spending is unsustainable no matter how many taxes you raise.
    Those $40 trillion numbers already assume that provider reimbursement has been cut to the bone. Further cost savings won’t be coming from hospitals or doctors. They’ll be coming out of patients.
    Medicare for All has little in common with Medicare. It’s a nationalized version of Medicaid.
    Medicare spends over $12,000 per beneficiary. Medicaid spends around $8,000. The difference between the two is the difference between expanding the budget to over $8 trillion or to $6.6 trillion.
    Which one do you think it will be?
    Medicare ran up $582 billion in costs in FY 2018. That’s punishing, but not impossible. Maintaining the same per enrollee spending for the entire country would alone brush up against Bernie’s $4 trillion.
    Our GDP has grown to an impressive $21 trillion under Trump. Medicare for All would put a third of the GDP toward the budget. That’s an impossible number and there’s no way that it will be met.
    The end result won’t even be Medicaid for All.
    Medicare for All will cannibalize actual Medicare, using the brand, taking the name, wiping out the entire system, seizing the money used to fund Medicare, and wiping out actual Medicare.
    Even before the medical apocalypse arrives, seniors would discover that their doctors no longer even accept Medicare because the new system automatically enrolls Medicare doctors into Medicare for All.
    The Medicare for All lie is especially cruel because it destroys the health care that seniors have paid into and depend on, while falsely promising that it will continue to be available to them. And to all.
    The destruction of Medicare isn’t just collateral damage. Just like the ban on private health plans, the new socialized medicine has bet everything on destroying all competition to be the only game in town.
    Medicare for All has to destroy Medicare. The destruction is written directly into the legislation. “No benefits shall be available under Title XVIII of the Social Security Act for any item or service furnished beginning on or after the effective date of benefits.” That’s the death warrant for Medicare.
    The Medicare Trust Fund will be looted into the Universal Medical Trust Fund.
    Seniors will lose their doctors. They’ll lose access to the lifesaving tests they need after a heart attack or stroke. The money they paid into the system will be used to cover substandard care for illegal aliens. And then for them. Despite the name, they’ll no longer have Medicare access, but at best, Medicaid.
    And the politicians who stole their Medicare will use its name on the new system to cover up the scam.
    The proper name for this isn’t Medicare for All. It’s Destroy Medicare for All.

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