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    Dems to Skip Senate Healthcare Vote if Brown Wins

    Dems Look at Bypassing Senate Health Care Vote

    Sunday, 17 Jan 2010 05:20 PM

    A panicky White House and Democratic allies scrambled Sunday for a plan to salvage their hard-fought health care package in case a Republican wins Tuesday's Senate race in Massachusetts, which would enable the GOP to block further Senate action.

    The likeliest scenario would require persuading House Democrats to accept a bill the Senate passed last month, despite their objections to several parts.

    Aides worked frantically Sunday amid fears that Republican Scott Brown will defeat Democrat Martha Coakley in the special election to fill the late Edward M. Kennedy's seat. A Brown win would give the GOP 41 Senate votes, enough to filibuster and block final passage of the House-Senate compromise on health care now being crafted.

    House Democrats, especially liberals, viewed those compromises as vital because they view the Senate-passed version as doing too little to help working families. The House passed its own version last year, and members assumed it would be reconciled with the Senate bill and then sent back to both chambers for final approval by the narrowest of margins.

    A GOP win in Massachusetts on Tuesday would likely kill that plan, because Republicans could block Senate action on the reconciled bill.

    The newly discussed fallback would require House Democrats to swallow hard and approve the Senate-passed bill without changes. President Barack Obama could sign it into law without another Senate vote needed.

    House leaders presumably would urge the Senate to make some changes later under a complex plan requiring only a simple majority, but it's unclear whether that could happen.

    The plan is highly problematic. House liberals already are bristling over changes the Senate forced upon them earlier, and some may conclude that no bill is better than the Senate bill. Meanwhile, some moderate Democrats may abandon the health bill altogether after seeing a Republican win Kennedy's seat in strongly Democratic Massachusetts.

    Republican activists openly scoffed at the notion of Democrats passing the highly contentious health package after a GOP takeover of Kennedy's Senate seat. But some Democrats said failure to pass a health bill will cripple their ability to tell voters this November that they accomplished anything with their control of the House, Senate and White House.

    "The simplest way is the House route," a White House aide said Sunday, speaking on condition of anonymity because Democrats have not conceded the race to Brown.

    If Coakley wins, final passage of a House-Senate compromise is not guaranteed but seems likely.

    But even as Obama campaigned for Coakley in Boston Sunday, top aides furiously weighed options if she loses. They include:

    —Acting before Brown is sworn in. Congressional and White House negoatiators could try to reconcile the House and Senate bills quickly and pass them before Brown takes office. A firestorm of criticism would follow, but some Democrats say it would be better than having no bill.

    —Seeking a Republican to cast the crucial 60th Senate vote. Some Democrats hope Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, might do this, but others seriously doubt it.

    —Start over and pass a new, scaled back health bill using a complicated process that requires a simple majority of 51 Senate votes. Several Senate aides said this was unlikely.

    In the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi has repeatedly appeared to rule out a House vote on the Senate-passed legislation, and privately, officials have raised concerns about asking the rank and file to vote on legislation that contains several provisions that might prove problematic in the midterm elections.

    As an example, the Senate-passed measure exempts self-insured insurance plans from many of the steps Democrats say are essential to curb insurance industry abuses. By one estimate, as many as 100 million individuals are covered under such plans.

    It was unclear how the negotiators at the White House in recent days have resolved that issue.

    Additionally, House Democrats have made it a priority in last week's talks to provide additional subsidies for lower-income individuals and families who would be required to buy insurance under the measaure that cleared the Senate. Several Democrats familiar with the talks said Obama had agreed with this point of view, and changes had been made accordingly.

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    . But some Democrats said failure to pass a health bill will cripple their ability to tell voters this November that they accomplished anything with their control of the House, Senate and White House.



    WHAT is still not registering with these people......nobody wants a government takeover of healthcare. We have made that crystal clear....repeatedly.

    Are they all running for the cover of being able to claim that they lost their seats come November because they didn't pass healthcare reform or something? That's sure what it sounds like to me because I don't believe for one second that any of them still honestly can say that they believe this is what voters want.
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    Well, if the Democrats do this, then all heads need to turn to Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Dick Armey, Rush Limbaugh, Tim Pawlenty and Doug Hoffman ... who gave the House of Representatives the crucial vote with the Democrat, Bill Owens, they sent to DC from the NY-23 by splitting the Republican vote in that race based on lies, distortions and misrepresentations so close to the election that the Republican candidate, Dede Scozzafava couldn't refute them, costing the Republicans a seat we've held since 1870.

    Dede Scozzafava opposed ObamaCare. Yet these Republicans and Conservatives named above lied about that and stated repeatedly on national television and Sarah Palin wrote it on her Facebook, over and over and over again just a few days before the election that Dede supported health care reform when she didn't support ObamaCare health care reform, she supported tort reform. They also stated she was a tax and spend liberal, another lie. They also stated she was endorsed by ACORN, another lie.

    Republicans need to learn the difference between a Republican and a Conservative, so they don't make that tragic blunder again.
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