Thread: Dogs, Frogs and Dalits: The Indian Model Minority Dark Side

April 04, 2007

Dogs, Frogs and Dalits: The Indian Model Minority Has A Dark Side
By Brenda Walker

When Mahatma Gandhi was asked what he thought of Western Civilization, he famously answered, "I think it would be a good idea."

His smug reply was more than just an unsubtle insult to Europe and America. It also indicated his assumption that India was morally superior to the West—despite copious evidence to the contrary.

India has brought the world an array of cruel social norms, from bride burning to the still-existing caste system, a racial social stratification in which those on the bottom are sometimes called "untouchables" (“dalits”). But Gandhi and many after him apparently believed that India's supposed spiritual heritage outweighs this rather serious deficit on the side of social justice, particularly regarding women's rights.

Make no mistake, Gandhi was convinced of Indian superiority:

"…Modern civilization represents forces of evil and darkness, whereas the ancient Indian civilization represents in its essence the divine force. Modern civilization is chiefly materialistic, as ours is chiefly spiritual. Modern civilization occupies itself in the investigation of the laws of matter and employs the human ingenuity in inventing or discovering means of production and weapons of destruction, ours is chiefly occupied in exploring spiritual laws." [GANDHI: Biography, Ideology, Resources]

Gandhi had a highly selective view of a society which remains largely unchanged despite the current image makeover in techno-hubs like Bangalore. The internet may be widely available for the middle class, but cows and untouchables remain, along with the usual assortment of Third World dysfunctions, from the subjugation of women to the high incidence of child labor, continuing religious violence and widespread poverty.

Incidentally, since "peace" activism is in the news, we should keep in mind that the pacifism which Gandhi espoused was absolute. He made no exceptions for self-defense. He thought the Allies should have surrendered to Hitler in WWII and that Jews should have hopped willingly into the gas ovens. Needless to say, none of this gets mentioned by today's peaceniks when they speak admiringly of Gandhian nonviolence. [The Gandhi Nobody Knows, By Richard Grenier, Commentary, March 1983]

Here in the United States, Indian immigrants have a reputation as being a model minority who have above-average incomes and education. We haven't seen many Indian gangs as yet—although they have become a problem in Canada—and for that we are grateful. Indians see themselves as hailing from the "world's largest democracy" (over one billion served). Some among them say openly that this will be the Indian century. And with greater wealth due to the outsourcing of American technology has come the desire to erase the tacky images of bovine creatures roaming city streets.

The Washington Post reported an Indian immigrant mom who objected to U.S. school materials: "American children will think India is some Third World country with pagan beliefs and backward thinking, not a forward-thinking country," Sandhya Kumar complained [Wiping Stereotypes Of India off the Books, By Maria Glod, April 17, 2005].

Frankly, it's hard to regard a country as "forward thinking"—or uniquely spiritual, in the Gandhian view—when it has engaged in an ongoing genocide of females. Males are valued, and females have been killed off through sex-selection abortion and infanticide. The number of "missing" Indian women and girls is estimated to be 50 million.

Such attitudes are hardly new in South Asia, where sons are frequently seen as economic assets and daughters as liabilities, given the need to marry them off with large dowries. Some parents have resorted to murder, smothering or starving their newborn daughters or even poisoning them with opium balls. [The Desperate Bachelors: India's Growing Population Imbalance Means Brides Are Becoming Scarce, By John Lancaster, Washington Post, December 2, 2002].

Modern technology has made sex selection easy. Many villages have an ultrasound machine. So unwanted female fetuses can be easily detected and discarded. Prohibitions against using sex-selection technology are widely ignored and never enforced.

India’s gender disparity has been rising as a result.

There is some understanding in the public mind that if no one has any girl children then many little boys will grow up to be bachelors. But the old preferences persist, outweighing any rumblings of individual responsibility, so many Indians want someone else to bother with girls, who are seen as more expensive and troublesome. Let Sanjit do it.

There’s evidence that a large gender disparity undermines social stability in fundamental ways. Some in government evidently agree, because the state Andhra Pradesh began offering cash rewards for girl babies in 2005.

Because of today's permissive multiculturalism, Indian immigrants to the U.S. see no need to leave their objectionable cultural baggage behind. Indians have brought sex-selection abortion with them to America, despite the fact that they are free to have as many children here as they want. According to a New York Times article, "Clinics' Pitch to Indian Émigrés: It's a Boy", [By Susan Sachs, August 15, 2001] services to deliver male heirs do a brisk business among Indian (and Chinese) immigrants.

CASTE
Another noxious custom which has been imported to America is the caste system, a kind of Asian-flavored apartheid. Even the diversity-loving New York Times had to do a little tapdance to excuse Indian immigrants' attachment to their ancient social categories: "just as descendants of the Pilgrims use the Mayflower Society as a social outlet", the paper opined about why Indian immigrants still retain caste [Family Ties and the Entanglements of Caste, October 24, 2004].

Caste in America is justified into more acceptable terms, like the computer programmer quoted by the NYT as saying, "That's why I went into the Brahmin group, because I wanted to give my children the same values." But the fact remains that Indians come to America, a society with minimal class distinctions, and see no problem with bringing their discriminatory caste system with them. Social mobility is certainly not an Indian value, although they expect to benefit from US egalitarianism when they immigrate here. When it's time to consider marriage, many parents want to choose a spouse of the appropriate caste and may want an astrologer's consultation as well.

The caste system extends back into India's history and has a racial basis. The Brahmin class of hereditary privilege is light-skinned while the Untouchable dalits are darker. It has been reported that newly affluent Indian women are spending millions of dollars on beauty products to lighten up unwanted dark skin, noting "It's believed that caste occupations were originally decided by skin color, with dark-skinned people assigned to the latrines and light-skinned people assigned to the Hindu clergy" [Modern India's complex connection with complexion, By Mike McPhate, Toronto Globe and Mail June 6, 2005].

The caste violence that remains an accepted fact of life in mother India has been brought to America too, although not as flagrantly as the brutal gang rapes and murders of dalits who don't know their place.

The case of Lakireddy Bali Reddy shocked liberal Berkeley a few years ago. Successful immigrant Reddy procured two teenaged sisters from the poor Pratipati family in his hometown, Velvadam India. The two were brought to America through a fraudulent H-1B visa scheme, and one of the girls later died from carbon monoxide poisoning due to a malfunctioning heater in one of Reddy's rathole apartments. When the Pratipati sisters were not providing sexual services for the wealthy landlord they were working on Reddy's rental properties. The autopsy of the dead girl, who was believed to be 16 or 17, revealed she was pregnant.
At trial, a cultural defense was employed—that the virtual slavery that the sisters endured at the hands of a powerful man was a social norm of India. But the Alameda County jury nonetheless found Reddy guilty of smuggling illegal immigrants into the country for sexual purposes. The judge sentenced him to eight years in prison, a longer term than the one requested by the prosecutor.
But the caste aspect of the Reddy case was little discussed. Reddy was born into a respected landowner clan—in fact the family name Reddy is a caste—and Pratipati sisters were dalits. So it was perfectly normal for the parents to hand over the girls to him to do with as he pleased. In India, members of the landlord class get to do what they want with their social inferiors and no one complains. "He's god in my village", the mother said about Reddy after the death of her daughter.
Another Reddy victim, a 20-year-old who shared the fateful apartment with the Pratipati sisters, told federal investigators her father had sold her to Reddy because of economic hardship when she was 14. Some reports allege the Pratipati sisters were purchased by Reddy.

Other forms of slavery, including indentured servitude of children and adults, are also accepted as normal in India. The World Bank estimates 44 million children, aged 5-14, work in India.

Such attitudes are part of traditional Hindu culture that believes that you are born into the appropriate social class because of your karma, resulting in punishment or reward for actions in previous lifetimes. Dalits are regarded as deserving their sorry state. While dalits as a whole have bettered their social standing in the last few decades—there was even a dalit president, KR Narayanan, from 1997 to 2002—the old prejudices are hard to eradicate, particularly in the countryside. In tech-hip Bangalore, dalits do the jobs higher-caste Indians don't want to do, e.g. the nightly cleaning of toilet pits, until 2003 when machinery was introduced. Of course, a female dalit is lower than low, so it's not surprising that "Gang rapes are mostly of Dalit women" according to Human Rights Watch.

One might think that India's increasing modernization would improve the status of women. But in one way at least economic improvement has contributed to more murders. While some retro customs are dying out in the cities, the new consumerist urge reportedly fuels the increasing number of “dowry murders” occurring in well-to-do families as well as among lower classes. It is a speedy way for a young man's family to acquire cash and desired consumer goods. Woe to the young woman whose family doesn't cough up. [India's dowry deaths, BBC 7/16/03].

Ranjana Kumari, who runs seven domestic violence refuge centers for women in Delhi, believes up to 70 cases a month are linked to rows over dowry. "Sometimes women are tortured to squeeze more money out of their families and in extreme cases they're killed. Then the husband is free to remarry and get another dowry", she told the BBC.

Many Americans learned about India's increasingly extortionist dowry customs when Sixty Minutes featured the story of a young Indian woman, Nisha Sharma, in 2003. After her family had put itself into serious debt for the dowry prior to marriage, Nisha stopped the wedding when her future mother-in-law demanded an additional $25,000 as the ceremony was about to begin. A shoving match between the families ensued and Nisha called the police to prevent more havoc.

But instead of being condemned, Nisha has received kudos from women's groups, offers of marriage and an appearance on Oprah. Indians' positive reaction to Nisha's repudiation of dowry is one small sign of genuine progress beyond the much celebrated increase of information technology.

OTHER CULTURAL CURIOSITIES
No toilet, no seat. In the ongoing effort to improve the quality of candidates for public office, the rural development minister proposed that anyone running for village council must have indoor plumbing at home. The idea is to promote plumbing generally, since "more than 65% of India's rural population defecated in the open, along roadsides, railway tracks and fields, generating huge amounts of excrement every day" which is a problem for the water supply.

Women face accusations of witchcraft in rural India. The old superstitions live on in the countryside: the weather or someone's bad luck may be blamed on a woman of low status.

Doggie Marriage. No analysis of the subcontinent's colorful culture would be complete without mention of canine-human nuptials. In certain ethnic groups, a child whose first tooth appears inauspiciously located in the mouth is married off to a protective canine. For example, little Karnamoni Handsa, a member of the Santhal tribe, was wed to a rather ordinary stray pooch named Bacchan as reported by the BBC. The ceremony was no perfunctory affair: it was attended by over 100 guests who celebrated to drumming and drank home-made liquor.

Fortunately, the girl's doggie marriage will not preclude a more normal pairing when she grows up.

Froggie Marriage etc. When drought strikes, the thing to do may be to invoke a higher power by marrying off a couple of toads with appropriate flourish to propitiate the rain gods. In another curious wedding, a teenaged boy married a hill in Jharkand state to remove a curse from his mother. In Orissa, a woman became connubially attached to a cobra out of affection, it was reported.

The odd and objectionable cultural practices of Indians may not seem important when millions of Mexicans are turning the Southwest into a colony of their homeland. But the 2005 Census count of India-born immigrants was 2,319,222—a not insubstantial number. Furthermore, the whole foundation of diversity in immigration and the ideology of multiculturalism is the idea that all cultures are morally equivalent. But a closer examination of even this "model minority" shows values that are not agreeable to Americans. It's another example that the whole edifice of multiculturalism is false, worthless and rotten. India has gotten a free ride from cultural critics. While Islamic societies are rightly condemned for their brutality toward women, India has been given a pass even though its misogyny is in some ways even worse. Even the demonstration by Nobel-prize-winning economist Amartya Sen that tens of millions of women and girls are missing from India has found little attention among those who claim to value human rights. Instead of pursuing genuine reforms, India puts on a show of being an up and comer. It has employed public relations strategies to convince American business that its tech workers are not only inexpensive, they are also smarter and better educated than their US counterparts. Just being dirt cheap doesn't have the same cachet.

This image makeover of a rather backward Third World country is an instance of monumental denial. This delusion is often aided by immigrants with a case of amnesia overlaid with arrogance and is stoked by too many viewings of the hagiographic film Gandhi.

And if mother India is doing so well (as suggested by immigrants returning home), then Indians don't need to immigrate here at all. All parties involved would be better off with less diversity in immigration.

And less immigration period.

Brenda Walker (email her) lives in northern California and publishes two websites, LimitsToGrowth.org and ImmigrationsHumanCost.org. She began practicing yoga at age 11 and in later years was disappointed to learn that the culture of India is not very spiritual at all.



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What has this article got to do with dealing with illegal immigration in US ? Many people confuse H1B people with illegal immigration and I still wonder why. Then they start attacking other cultures. India is not perfect and neither is US. What I would like is to combine the best of both cultures. First, I'm a human being and then comes Indian or American. I like to deal with the human beings rather than nationalities.

India is the only country in the world which has a Sikh prime minister, a Muslim president (both belonging to minorities and highly educated) and an Italian-born person who could so easily have become the PM herself! Of course there is politics. Where isn't ? The more the people, the more the politics. In spite of all the politics, burgeoning population, corruption, poverty, pollution, isn't it amazing how it is the second fastest growing economy in the world.

Originally Posted by h1b

What has this article got to do with dealing with illegal immigration in US ? Many people confuse H1B people with illegal immigration and I still wonder why. Then they start attacking other cultures. India is not perfect and neither is US. What I would like is to combine the best of both cultures. First, I'm a human being and then comes Indian or American. I like to deal with the human beings rather than nationalities.

India is the only country in the world which has a Sikh prime minister, a Muslim president (both belonging to minorities and highly educated) and an Italian-born person who could so easily have become the PM herself! Of course there is politics. Where isn't ? The more the people, the more the politics. In spite of all the politics, burgeoning population, corruption, poverty, pollution, isn't it amazing how it is the second fastest growing economy in the world.

What does your response have to do with the sobering facts exposed by the article?

As for your question as to what the article has to do with illegal immigration, the answer is that it has the same thing to do with it that every other article in this section does. That's why this section is called OTHER TOPICS NEWS AND ISSUES.

The only way I can do justice to the topic is to payback by the same token! I'm amazed how much h1b and legal immigration can cause so much influence and damage

Originally Posted by h1b

The only way I can do justice to the topic is to payback by the same token! I'm amazed how much h1b and legal immigration can cause so much influence and damage

I have no idea what either of those comments is supposed to mean. Something is getting lost in the translation to English, I guess...

I think they are a society with big time human rights abuses that what I get from this article.

Sex slaves and of young girls and women in the millions. Just horrible. You talk about being human and not a nationality. You should practice what you preach. Why do your people treat women and the poor so horribly.

Horrifying culture to be born into especially if your a woman. The Nobel Prize winner condemns it and there should be more denouncing it.

Even the demonstration by Nobel-prize-winning economist Amartya Sen that tens of millions of women and girls are missing from India has found little attention among those who claim to value human rights. Instead of pursuing genuine reforms, India puts on a show of being an up and comer. It has employed public relations strategies to convince American business that its tech workers are not only inexpensive, they are also smarter and better educated than their US counterparts. Just being dirt cheap doesn't have the same cachet.

CCUSA : You have no idea what you are talking about. You read a couple of articles and you think you are a scholar. I definitely agree with some of the stuff mentioned in the article. I do know that a lot of it is pretty much decreasing because more people are getting educated.

BTW, why should I feel guilty for whatever wrong is happening in India and committed by Indians and why do I have to explain/take responsibility ?

Do you take responsibility for each of the wrong things that happens/happened in US ?

Are there no sexual crimes in US? How about the video shown in CNN about a school girl being beaten by 2 others. How about another video where some guys hit a homeless (poor) guy. Why do your people treat poor so horribly ? Now, you should practice what you preach. Take responsibility for all these incidents, will you ?

How about one pathetic person who hits a 101 year old woman ? Well, I can list more than what you can muster.

Do you subscribe to a caste system? If so, I would call that racist.

When million of women and children are sold into slavery in a society, I think you could say that the society deems it socially exceptable.

I'm not blaming you, I'm blaming INDIA. Slavery of any kind should be denounced and outlawed across the world. All human beings deserve to have their basic human rights upheld. Selling MILLIONS of women and children into slavery and the sex trade is reprehensible. I would think you would want this to change and stand up for human rights.

Why is'nt this being challenged and denounced by the educated in India and the world?

CCUSA : I condemn caste system. There are just so many people there that it is difficult to control all. Personally, I do not feel that there is so much slavery with the changing education.

Old people are superstitious because they have had no education. Some of them are narrow-minded and cannot think outside the box because their parents brought them up that way. But, it is changing rapidly.

I'm sure it is being condemned by the world and even the educated people in India. Infact, people here would be surprised to know that I do not like so many of the laws in India that I want to change them. I hate politicians who like the illiterates to be the same so that they can win the power by 'impressing' upon them the 'truth' I hate child labor, prostitution, slavery, abuse of power, caste system (for people to win elections)rampant corruption, creating a bigger gap between the haves and have nots, pollution. These are the sole reasons why people are motivated to become educated.

Peace Hb1. I'm glad we agree that this should change. I'm glad you are against the caste system and the repression of the poor for slavery and the sex trade.

Dumbing down the public or keeping them dumb in India, America or anywhere else in the world should be stopped and is counter productive and evil in any society.

Education is the key. Social change can happen. I agree that with modernization of your country it will come. I also hope more influencial people and human rights groups push for it.

The articles purpose was to talk about the issue and bring it out for a positive change. People should'nt live in darkness.