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    A federal Europe would be a German super-state, because no other population is so

    A federal Europe would be a German super-state, because no other population is so motivated to succeed

    By Dr Robert Lefever
    PUBLISHED: 07:29 EST, 29 May 2012 | UPDATED: 10:28 EST, 29 May 2012
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    Life in the Stone Age was nasty, brutish and short. The same description might well apply in the federal European super-state towards which we are heading.

    Far from protecting us from war, the more likely future will be one of economic and social poverty, with all its desperate concomitants.

    'Make the rich pay' rings hollow when the rich have gone away. There is no point in being rich, or in doing the work that would make one rich, if there is nothing of any value to show for it, but a lot of abuse to go with it.

    If profit is the undistributed wages of the poor, how will the poor survive at all if there is no profit because there is no business?

    Germany is extending power of the rest of Europe. Pictured here are Chancellor Angela Merkel and Finance Minister Wolfgang Schauble who says the euro crisis is 'proof' of the need for Federal European super-state

    We need to get out of anything other than a trading relationship with the rest of Europe. Now.

    Reflecting on state enterprises, we can see that the nationalised industries in the UK were a disaster. They were in hock to Trade Union barons. They did not improve the lot of the workers. Our state health and educational services are a disaster to this day, except in those stable populations where anyone could run anything. State housing and welfare services are a shambles and easy meat for corruption. But they only exist at all because someone - the taxpayer - pays for them.

    Suppose the top taxpayers cease to pay their current whack (the top 10% of income tax payers pay 53% of the total), who will then support the poor and needy?

    Who supported them in The Soviet Union? Who supports them now in North Korea or even in China? The much vilified USA looks after the poor and needy through Medicare and Medicaid. Furthermore, in the USA poor immigrants, of whom there are a great many, tend to stay poor for as little as four years. The USA is a 'Can do' society. In Europe, the rallying cry is 'The government ought to do something'.

    We have to get real right now on the issue of which system of government gives the best service to the largest number of people. Otherwise we are staring at Armageddon.

    Controlling the purse strings: The European Central Bank in Frankfurt, Germany, which gives the country vast power over not just Europe, but the rest of the world

    A federal Europe will be a German super-state. Just as West Germany absorbed its eastern counterpart, present-day Germany will absorb and rule all Europe. The German workers and taxpayers will not be content simply to pay for incompetent, lazy and profligate free-loaders and shysters elsewhere. Why on earth should they?

    The end result - alarmingly soon - will be that Greater Germany (currently called Euroland) will be as much of a colonial power as was communist Russia in the Soviet Union.

    In that event, there will be little place for those who claim their right to live off the State in an entitlement culture. They depend upon a tolerant government. They are unlikely to get it. Even in Germany itself, I wouldn't fancy their chances of continued survival.

    The first fearful lesson of history is that absolute power inevitably corrupts absolutely. That prospect is what we are looking at now.

    The second fearful lesson is that if we do not learn from history we shall be condemned to repeat it.

    Applying these two lessons to our current situation in Europe, we can see two things:

    First, we can learn from the Germans. They are motivated to succeed. They work hard. They achieve results. If we want what the Germans have, we need to do what the Germans do. Extending that principle, why should we not be even more successful than they are?

    Appeasement: Europhiles Nick Clegg, the Deputy PM, and Labour party leader Ed Miliband, right, are happy to surrender Britain's sovereignty to Berlin

    The simple answer to that is that the countries of southern Europe, and to some extent we ourselves in the UK, don't want to do that. We want the end results but we don't want to do what is necessary to get them.

    Therefore the Germans will continue to succeed and the rest of us, relatively, will continue to fail. We may value other things, rather than economic success. That is our choice. But we cannot complain about German success if we make no attempt to emulate it.

    Whether we like it or not, this means that Germany will become progressively more powerful. With that power will come domination. Theoretically that power could be benign but that is improbable.

    Second, the belief in themselves as a master race is still alive and well in Germany. To refer to the second world war as 'Hitler's war' underestimates his popular support. Other European countries have good reason to fear German domination. So would we if the Americans had not come to our aid and won our war for us. Under President Obama, it is unlikely that they would be willing to do so again.

    Tibet is now a puppet state of China. Will European countries become puppet states of Greater Germany? Are some of them already? Will that be our future if we stay tied to Europe and to many of its super-state institutions, even if not to the Euro itself? Do we have any viable alternative? Do we have another Churchill to lead us and restore our national pride?

    Or should we be ashamed of that and take on a false identity with a super-state? That is precisely what the Europhiles insist that we should do - so that they get more power and we get progressively less independence.

    personally do not wish to be part of Greater Germany. I like being part of Little England.

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    We need to get out of anything other than a trading relationship with the rest of Europe. Now.
    AMEN! That includes ditching the UN, IMF, ECB and NATO.
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