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    Feds' Explanation of Hollow Point Bullets Raises More Questions

    Feds' explanation of hollow point bullets raises more questions - National Conservative | Examiner.com

    Feds' explanation of hollow point bullets raises more questions





    Various government agencies have been stockpiling ammunition at over ten times the rate used per year during the Iraq War.
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    News reports indicating that multiple agencies of the federal government have ordered and are stockpiling multimillions of rounds of ammunition have pressured the Feds to offer an explanation. But the official explanation has only raised more questions.
    On Friday the government stated that the hollow point bullets it has procured are "standard issue" and that they are used to train security agents used by each of the various federal agencies.
    However, according to retired Maj. Gen. Jerry Curry, a decorated Army war veteran, the Feds' explanation about the bullets fails to pass the smell test.
    When this reporter first heard the government's explanation for the hollow point bullets, the warning bells immediately rang indicating a cover up. As every gun owner knows if they are serious about developing and maintaining their shooting skills, the type of bullets used for practice at the firing range are normally different from the ammunition one would use when getting the firearm set to be used in the event of a home invasion or other situations in which one's life is in mortal danger.
    Firing range bullets are much less expensive and are not designed for the day to day use of the gun for maximum self protection. One uses the more expensive variety, such as hollow point bullets, for real-life danger.
    Thus, immediately this reporter knew that when the government claimed that its agencies had purchased multimillions of rounds of hollow point bullets for "practice and training" at the firing range, something was amiss. Most citizens are likely unaware that such ammo is not used for practice and will accept the government's explanation at face value. This is in all likelihood what the Feds are counting on.
    And when Maj. Gen. Curry confirmed these suspicions in his article for The Daily Caller, it became clear that the Obama Administration has not been honest with the public concerning the current mass stockpiling of ammunition.
    Curry stated,
    Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets donít just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the bodyís organs. Death often follows.
    In addition, Curry noted that during the Iraq War the U.S. military used 70 million rounds of ammunition per year. Compare that with the 750 million rounds of hollow point bullets that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) ordered in March. And then it further ordered another 750 million rounds of various types of ammunition, some of which can penetrate walls. Curry declared,
    This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? Whatís the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.
    I fear that Congress wonít take these ammunition purchases seriously until they are all led from Capitol Hill in handcuffs. Why buy all this ammunition unless you plan to use it. Unknown to Congress, Does DHS plan to declare war on some country? Shouldnít Congress hold hearings on why the Administration is stockpiling this ammunition all across the nation? How will it be used; what are the Administrationís plans?
    The other factor that is raising significant concerns about the ammo purchases is that the U.S. military and various law enforcement agencies at both the federal and local levels have enough fire power to adequately respond to any emergency or threat. But DHS now has enough ammo on its own to kill every single American citizen plus potential invaders such as Syrians, Iranians, or Mexicans.
    Why? And for what purpose?
    As a career Army officer, Maj. Gen. Curry believes that the stockpiling of this ammo is enough to warrant a congressional investigation, including an order from Congress that the purchases of hollow point bullets be stopped immediately.
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    Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?

    Published: 9:40 AM 08/17/2012
    By Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.)


    The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S. No one has yet said what the purpose of these purchases is, though we are led to believe that they will be used only in an emergency to counteract and control civil unrest. Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used ó those causing the civil unrest ó must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.

    What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It canít simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets donít just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the bodyís organs. Death often follows.

    Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest? Or is the purpose to kill 174,000 of the nationís military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution?

    All my life Iíve handled firearms. When a young boy growing up on my fatherís farm in Pennsylvania Dadís first rule of firearms training was, ďNever point a gun at someone, in fun or otherwise, unless you intend to shoot them. If you shoot someone, shoot to kill.Ē Iíve never forgotten his admonition. It stayed with me through my Boy Scout training, when I enlisted in the army as a Private to fight in the Korea
    War, during my days as a Ranger and Paratrooper and throughout my thirty-four year military career.

    If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

    In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? Whatís the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.

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    I just sent both articles to my Representatives. I think the Congress should hold hearings.
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