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    FIX THE FATAL FLAW IN THE CONSTITUTION

    HOW TO SLASH TAXES & FIX THE FATAL FLAW IN THE CONSTITUTION
    By Joel Turtel
    June 8, 2006
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    The Constitution established the principle that our Federal government has only those powers granted to it by the sovereign people. The Bill of Rights forbade government from making any laws that violated our fundamental political rights such as freedom of speech and the press. It established the principle that we have inviolate individual and political rights that are outside government's control.
    But the Constitution had a fatal flaw --- it did not put economic liberty outside government's control. It gave the federal government the power to coin money, "promote the general welfare," and "regulate commerce" among the states. Our Founding Fathers could not foresee how these powers would be turned against us. They could not foresee how today's liberals, Democrats, and Republicans would use these economic powers to create our devouring socialist Welfare/Entitlement State.
    Most Americans condemn Communist governments for violating their citizen-slaves' political rights and liberty. Censorship, secret police, a one-party system, rigged courts, and suppression of free speech and a free press are the standard vicious and painfully obvious characteristics of such regimes.
    In Communist countries, the close connection between political liberty and property rights is also obvious. In Cuba and North Korea, the economy and political power are one and the same. The Communist party makes most economic decisions for millions of helpless citizen-slaves. It decides where a person will work, what he can buy, where he can live, how much he'll be paid, and thousands of other economic decisions that Americans make for themselves and take for granted (although Congress is now increasingly strangling our economic freedom with suffocating regulations).
    A Communist government therefore has the power of life or death over every man, woman, and child in the country. It can fire someone from his job and not let him work anywhere else. It can lower a worker's wages or cut off a retiree's pension. It can dictate who goes to college and who becomes a laborer. The government can take someone out of the factory and force him to work in the fields, as they did in Cuba, Cambodia, and the Soviet Union.
    Through this awesome economic power, a Communist government can sentence a man and his family to death by slow starvation without bothering with legal proceedings. Without property rights and economic liberty, political rights are meaningless.
    Most people who are forced to choose between food and free speech will choose food. The communist Cuban government has a constitution that supposedly guarantees political rights, but this constitution is not worth the paper it's written on. Cubans are already slaves through their government's total economic power over them.
    In welfare/entitlement states around the world, including ours, the same connection exists between political rights and economic liberty. But in a welfare/entitlement state, people still have some political rights and a semi-free economy. As a result, in America we find it harder to believe that government threatens our political rights when it violates our property rights. In a welfare/entitlement state, it's harder to see the link between political rights and economic liberty.
    Welfare/entitlement states have economic powers that are similar to those in Communist countries. France, Germany, and other European welfare/entitlement states regulate wages, heath care, employment policies, product standards, safety standards, transportation, the environment, and most other areas of it's citizens' lives. They also loot their citizen's earnings through taxes to pay for all the welfare and entitlement programs.
    A welfare/entitlement state differs from a Communist government only by degree--- it's just a milder version of the same poison. Both have the same goals-to allegedly "help" people in "need," and both use the same means-compulsion. The difference between the two is how much force the government uses, and whether force is imposed by the communist party or by majority rule.
    To confirm this, try not paying your income taxes or refuse to obey some regulation and see what happens. If you resist the tax collectors, you'll end up dead or in jail. When government withholds income taxes from your paycheck to pay for welfare, subsidy, or entitlement programs, it violates your property rights and economic liberty. Income taxes are simply legalized looting by our own government.
    It doesn't matter that a Communist government owns all property while a "democratic" welfare/entitlement state "allows" private property. What's important is not who owns property, but who controls it. When taxes confiscate up to 50 percent of your income, as they now do in America, you own only 50 percent of what you earn. When government bureaucrats can control your property with strangling regulations, your ownership is meaningless -- your hard-earned paycheck or profits are up for grabs by Federal and state tax looter-collectors.
    We all spend what we earn on ourselves and our families. Who in his right mind would give away over 40 percent of his hard-earned money to pay for other peoples' education, food stamps, subsidized rents, farm subsidies, health insurance, savings and loan bailouts, or retirement benefits? No one would, and that's why force is necessary through compulsory income taxes.
    Every penny that an alleged "democratic" welfare/entitlement state takes from you by majority-rule force represents a theft of your most precious possession --- time. It represents a theft of part of your life, the part you spent earning that money. Welfare/entitlement-state liberals, democrats, and too many Republicans assume that you don't own the money you earn, and therefore that you don't own your life. They assume that your duty in life is to work for the benefit of others, not for yourself or your family. They assume that you are your brother's keeper, whether you like it or not. When welfare/entitlement state bureaucrats loot over 40 percent of your income with taxes, it means you're a slave working for others for almost five months of every year of your life.
    To stop this injustice, once and for all, we have to forbid government from violating our economic liberty. The way to do this is to build a thick wall between government and the economy with a constitutional amendment, similar to the First Amendment that separates Church and State. We desperately need a constitutional amendment that separates the Economy from the State, and creates an inviolable protection for our property rights.
    Our religious beliefs are off-limits to government meddlers because of the First Amendment. Similarly, under this new "economic rights" amendment to the Constitution, our paychecks, business profits, and anything else we earn would be ours by right and off-limits to government tax collectors.
    Under such a Constitutional amendment, Congress and state governments would be forbidden from raising or using any tax money to give any economic handout or subsidy to any group whatsoever. Under this Amendment, Congress and state governments would be forbidden from giving any welfare, subsidies, entitlement payments, tax breaks, or any other form of money transfer to farmers, welfare mothers, college students, illegal aliens, government (public) schools, big corporations, or any other group that now sticks its hand out for unearned benefits from our politicians. Congress and state legislators would be out of the Santa Claus business with other people's money.
    With such an Amendment in place, special-interest lobbyists would disappear. Just as the Supreme Court overturns any law that violates the wall between Church and State today, it would slap down any welfare, subsidy, or "entitlement" program to any special-interest group or corporation whatsoever, including middle-class programs like Medicare.
    Lobbyists would then quickly realize the futility of wasting their time trying to buy or bribe a Congressman or state legislator to pass a law that gave his group a special handout or subsidy paid for by the rest of us. Handouts, and organized government looting, would be outlawed by this Amendment. Social Security (a combination "insurance" and partial-welfare program), to which millions of hard-working Americans made contributions during their lifetime, would be privatized and phased out, while protecting existing retirees' current benefits.
    When the organized looting of the welfare/entitlement state is outlawed by this Constitutional amendment, we could then eliminate the income tax, permanently. The vast majority of money that Congress and state governments spend today is for welfare, subsidy, or entitlement programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, farm subsidies, welfare programs, "public" education, foreign aid, corporate subsidies, ad nauseam. Once we eliminated these looting programs or privatized them, we could slash taxes to the bone. Our trillion-dollar budgets with 400 billion dollar deficits could be reduced down to pennies on the dollar, with no more deficits. Slash government's spending orgy for the welfare/entitlement state, and we can slash taxes and explode our productivity and standard of living for rich and poor alike.
    So what we need to end the legalized looting of the welfare/entitlement state that is bankrupting our nation, is a new Constitutional amendment that separates Economy and State, similar to the separation of Church and State. Then we can all once again keep what we earn. Government looters could not steal our hard-earned money in the name of "helping" others, by turning compassion into compulsion.
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    But the Constitution had a fatal flaw --- it did not put economic liberty outside government's control. It gave the federal government the power to coin money, "promote the general welfare," and "regulate commerce" among the states. Our Founding Fathers could not foresee how these powers would be turned against us. They could not foresee how today's liberals, Democrats, and Republicans would use these economic powers to create our devouring socialist Welfare/Entitlement State.
    Congress was granted the right to coin money. Congress abrogated that right OUTSIDE the government when they passed the Federal Reserve Act. So the implication in this article is that our government coins money. That is not incorrect. The money used in this country is printed by the Federal Reserve (NOT part of our government). It is flat money. It has no gold backing it (as commanded in the Constitution) it is a FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE.

    Welfare/entitlement states have economic powers that are similar to those in Communist countries. France, Germany, and other European welfare/entitlement states regulate wages, heath care, employment policies, product standards, safety standards, transportation, the environment, and most other areas of it's citizens' lives. They also loot their citizen's earnings through taxes to pay for all the welfare and entitlement programs.
    hmmmmmmmm and does not the federal government of the United States do EXACTLY the same thing? NOTE I SAID FEDERAL not the Republic form of government our Constitution endowed.

    These are just off the top of my head but consider the following and add all those I missed.
    regulate wages, - federal minimum wage law
    heath care - FDA
    employment policies OSHA and more
    product standards - READ the labels
    safety standards - manditory seat belt laws (even if it decapitates children)
    transportation - DOT speed limits, highway construction
    the environment - EPA
    "and most other areas of it's citizens' lives" .... that is an understatement when they legislate the amount of water you can flush through your toilet.

    I pose they have controlled all of those aspects and more of our lives since 1935 for all the good of the people. As they are trying to jam open borders and world trade down our throats for the good of the people. It doesn't matter that the toilets don't work since legislated and it doesn't matter that jobs are gone and our resources will be exhausted by too rapid over population.... but the global economy is good for the people. (sarcasim)

    IT IS GOOD FOR THE POCKET BOOKS OF THOSE "STAKEHOLDERS".

    So what we need to end the legalized looting of the welfare/entitlement state that is bankrupting our nation, is a new Constitutional amendment that separates Economy and State, similar to the separation of Church and State. Then we can all once again keep what we earn. Government looters could not steal our hard-earned money in the name of "helping" others, by turning compassion into compulsion.
    What we need is the removal of current administration from the top down including all Bush appointees and all failed congressmen. WE NEED AN EMERGENCY ELECTION but those won't work either because our action of voting is as hollow as the backing of the money we barter with. And do not make the mistake thinking the Democrats are the solution... they are every bit as much of the problem as our current flunkies in office.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

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    How true you are...........we have one heck of a corrupt government. We need a total, complete overhaul to save our country. To go to Congress or the Senators won't accomplishment anything, because they too are as corrupt as any of them. The Justices all need to be replaced because they are put there by the President and are as corrupt as he is.
    It really galls me how Bush can get on national TV and talks about how Saddam killed his people and let their children go hungry.........At least the people of Iraq didn't have to worry about illegal immigration and their leader giving away their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthiela
    How true you are...........we have one heck of a corrupt government. We need a total, complete overhaul to save our country. To go to Congress or the Senators won't accomplishment anything, because they too are as corrupt as any of them. The Justices all need to be replaced because they are put there by the President and are as corrupt as he is.
    It really galls me how Bush can get on national TV and talks about how Saddam killed his people and let their children go hungry.........At least the people of Iraq didn't have to worry about illegal immigration and their leader giving away their country.
    More accurately, we do not have a government. The international moneychangers have a government here that they bought and paid for, replacing the constitutional government our fathers created. Most of the institutions and organizations controlling this nation and both your and my personal fortunes are extra-governmental entities with no oversight by elected officials and no accountability to We the People. Their dirty deeds and allocated powers are buried in millions of pages of legislation written not by our elected legislators, but by the Esquires of the bankers.

    If there is a flaw in our Constitution, it was that it did not place a limit on the length of a piece of legislation and that it did not provide for a death penalty to any official who intentionally subverted the Constitution. Lincoln got his, but his evil was never undone, and far from being villified, the traitor FDR is held as a saviour.

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    ruthiela, I sometimes wonder what the Iraqi people really think of our government, failing to secure our own borders and giving our country away? It must be really confusing for them sometimes, having Bush tell them, don't do as I do, just do as I say, secure your borders and keep those terroist out of your country!
    Build the dam fence post haste!

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    well, nittygritty..........I know what the Pakastani's and the Iraqi's around here are saying.........and you sure aren't far off.........that's why the Iraqi government is getting leary with our men over there.......and the Iraqi people.....especially that nut next door that is leading Iran so close to them.
    CrocketsGhost...........I know all about what our Congress did to our Constitution back in 1784...........They are all traitors and have been ever since...........I know we don't have a government.......it's convincing everybody else that we don't have a government. People don't realize that Bush has NO authority outside of Washington, DC either.............we have got to convince them of that. And I know that the Constitution we all see and hear about every day is NOT our Constitution........that Constitution belongs to Washington, DC ONLY, not to the States.............This isn't the first time we.......the REAL USA have gotten sold out to foreign interest. We just have to convince the rest of the people of that fact. You with me in trying to do that? Myself, I care less that people think I'm crazy........what our government has been doing is enough to drive a person crazy and to drinking.........know what I mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthiela
    well, nittygritty..........I know what the Pakastani's and the Iraqi's around here are saying.........and you sure aren't far off.........that's why the Iraqi government is getting leary with our men over there.......and the Iraqi people.....especially that nut next door that is leading Iran so close to them.
    CrocketsGhost...........I know all about what our Congress did to our Constitution back in 1784...........They are all traitors and have been ever since...........I know we don't have a government.......it's convincing everybody else that we don't have a government. People don't realize that Bush has NO authority outside of Washington, DC either.............we have got to convince them of that. And I know that the Constitution we all see and hear about every day is NOT our Constitution........that Constitution belongs to Washington, DC ONLY, not to the States.............This isn't the first time we.......the REAL USA have gotten sold out to foreign interest. We just have to convince the rest of the people of that fact. You with me in trying to do that? Myself, I care less that people think I'm crazy........what our government has been doing is enough to drive a person crazy and to drinking.........know what I mean?
    I do know what you mean.

    BTW - Did you catch the news item about the Montana man, Richard Celata, who was raided by a joint force of the FBI, ATF, and CANADIAN law enforcement, all with a sealed warrant? His crime? Pointing out that Montana did not have a militia as called for in its constitution and providing that and some material by Alex Jones to the local sheriff.

    Celata's business was selling 80% complete gun kits, which is completely legal. The Canadians claimed, without offering any evidence to support the claim, that several guns constructed from his gun kits were used in murders in Canada. Of course, there is absolutely no legal precedent for prosecuting a person for crimes committed with guns or kits sold legally.

    I have placed the article in a separate thread in this section.

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