Thread: Former Top NSA Official: “We Are Now In A Police State”

Former Top NSA Official: “We Are Now In A Police State”

Tuesday, December 17, 2013 21:40

Bill Binney is the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information. A 32-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency, Binney was the senior technical director within the agency and managed thousands of NSA employees.
Binney has been interviewed by virtually all of the mainstream media, including CBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, USA Today, Fox News, PBS and many others.
Last year,Binney held his thumb and forefinger close together, and said:

We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state.

But today, Binney told Washington’s Blog that the U.S. has already become a police state.
By way of background, the government is spying on virtually everything we do.
All of the information gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally “launder” the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way … and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges.
The NSA also ships Americans’ most confidential, sensitive information to foreign countries like Israel (and here), the UK and other countries … so they can “unmask” the information and give it back to the NSA … or use it for their own purposes.
Binney told us today:

The main use of the collection from these [NSA spying] programs [is] for law enforcement. [See below].
These slides give the policy of the DOJ/FBI/DEA etc. on how to use the NSA data. In fact, they instruct that none of the NSA data is referred to in courts – cause it has been acquired without a warrant.
So, they have to do a “Parallel Construction” and not tell the courts or prosecution or defense the original data used to arrest people. This I call: a “planned programed perjury policy” directed by US law enforcement.
And, as the last line on one slide says, this also applies to “Foreign Counterparts.”
This is a total corruption of the justice system not only in our country but around the world. The source of the info is at the bottom of each slide. This is a totalitarian process – means we are now in a police state.

Here are the two slides which Binney pointed us to:

(Source: Reuters via RT)
We asked Binney a follow-up question:

You say “this also applies to ‘Foreign Counterparts.’” Does that mean that foreign agencies can also “launder” the info gained from NSA spying? Or that data gained through foreign agencies’ spying can be “laundered” and used by U.S. agencies?

Binney responded:

For countries like the five eyes (US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand) and probably some others it probably works both ways. But for others that have relationships with FBI or DEA etc., they probably are given the data to used to arrest people but are not told the source or given copies of the data.

(See this for background on the five eyes.)
Past interviews of Binney by Washington’s Blog here, here, here, here, and here.
Former Top NSA Official: “We Are Now In A Police State” was originally published on Washington's Blog


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NSA's goal is elimination of individual privacy worldwide - Greenwald to EU

By Russia Today

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December 19, 2013


The NSA’s ultimate goal is to destroy individual privacy worldwide, working with its UK sidekick GCHQ, journalist Glenn Greenwald warned an EU inquiry, adding that they were far ahead of their rivals in their “ability to destroy privacy.”
Greenwald, the former Guardian journalist renowned for publishing Edward Snowden’s leaks, criticized EU governments’ muted response to the revelations about the NSA’s mass espionage. Most governments reacted with “apathy and indifference” to reports that ordinary citizens were being spied upon, Greenwald said, pointing out that EU politicians only took action when they discovered that they themselves were being targeted.
“I think western governments have inculcated people to accept that privacy does not really have much value,” said Greenwald, adding it was “to get populations accustomed to violations of their privacy.”
Greenwald testified before the European Parliament’s Committee on Civil Liberties and Home Affairs via a video link, contributing to an inquiry into the NSA’s surveillance on EU citizens.
“The NSA doesn’t need a specific reason to collect anybody’s communications,” said the journalist, reminding the panel that the agency’s ultimate goal was to “eliminate individual privacy worldwide.”
The collection of metadata is one of the “supreme priorities” for the NSA , said Greenwald, adding that the practice was more invasive than snooping on the content of electronic communications. Metadata refers to the time, date, duration and location of calls, allowing the NSA to effectively follow targets.
To demonstrate the fact that metadata is far more useful to security agencies than content, Greenwald gave the example of a woman deciding to have an abortion. If you listen in on the woman’s call you will get a very constricting interpretation of events, said Greenwald, a “generic-sounding” clinic name and an appointment time. With metadata, however, agencies can construct a much more detailed picture because it gives them access to phone numbers that in turn could be used to identify the clinic.
“If you’re someone who values privacy, it would almost be preferable at this point to have the NSA listening in on your phone calls and reading your emails than it is to have them collect all of your metadata over the course of many years and then analyze it in secret with virtually no restraint.”




‘Diplomatic manipulation and the accumulation of power’

Contradicting Washington’s claims that it does not engage in “economic espionage,” Greenwald said the NSA and the GCHQ’s activities were aimed towards “diplomatic manipulation and accumulation of power.”
“What a lot of this spying is about has nothing to do with terrorism and national security. That is the pretext. It is about diplomatic manipulation and economic advantage.”
The NSA also follows people who express “radical ideas,” Greenwald said. The spy agency collects data on their “visits to pornographic sites” and their “sexual chats online with people who they’re not married to” in order to later discredit them, Greenwald said.
Greenwald rejected accusations from the American government that Snowden and his associates have put the fight against terrorism in jeopardy by releasing classified data. He said that the only thing that has been harmed is the “perception of honesty and credibility” of the governments engaged in spying.
He also made the point that terrorists are fully aware their electronic communications are tracked and for that reason do not use e-mail or the internet.
The inquiry was set up to discuss ratcheting up the security of the internet and telephone networks in the European Union.
Whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed the massive scale of the American spy agency’s espionage program in Europe earlier this year. He disseminated classified files to international media that showed the NSA had monitored a number of high-profile political figures, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Furthermore, it was revealed that the organization gathers metadata on millions of telephone calls across the European Union.
Snowden is also expected to testify before the Civil Liberties Committee in January as part of the inquiry.
Reprinted with permission from Russia Today.
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NSA Spying Was Never About Terrorism, It Is About Economic Spying

21 hours ago | Politics, US | Posted by Sonya Sandage

• December 19, 2013

The Associated Press reported on Dec. 17th that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has released an “open letter to the people of Brazil.”
Since spring, Snowden has been releasing thousands of documents on the NSA program through journalists Barton Gellman at the Washington Post, Glenn Greenwald at the Guardian, and U.S. filmmaker Laura Poitras.
In his newest letter, he made a bombshell declaration. ”These programs were never about terrorism; they’re about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They’re about power.”
This is the smoking gun to previous allegations by political pundits. Several pundits have alleged that the program was set up to arm the largest and most powerful U.S. corporations with patent information; competitor information including materials, financials, scientific research, and market data to help them maintain or gain control over markets.
Snowden’s statement also brings into sharp question the millions of dollars, lives lost, and intrusion of programs like TSA searches, the PATRIOT Act, the Afghan & Iraq wars, drone strikes, and all other actions taken by the U.S. government to fight “terrorism.”
In Snowden’s letter he made it clear to Brazil that it was the prime target of surveillance in South America. Brazil is part of the formidable economic coalition entitled ”BRICS” for member nations: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.
German newspaper Spiegel reported that the NSA spying includes total surveillance of international financial flows. The program is called “FTM” for “Follow the Money.” The program collected 180 million records in 2011 alone. 84% of the data is credit card transactions. http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-922276.html
In a more stunning revelation, the Dec. 12 “Report and Recommendations of The President’s Review Group on Intelligence and Communications Technology” stated the government is changing the amount in (presumably foreign) bank accounts.
Recommendations from page 221 of the report;

(1) Governments should not use surveillance to steal industry secrets to advantage their domestic industry;

(2) Governments should not use their offensive cyber capabilities to change the amounts held in financial accounts –or- manipulate the financial systems.
The entire report to the President is here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...nal_report.pdf
A 2008 paper by Arindrajit Dube, Ethan Kaplan, and Suresh Naidu found evidence that the CIA and/or members of the Executive branch either disclosed or acted on information about top-secret authorizations of coups. Stocks in “highly-exposed” firms rose more in the pre-coup authorization phase than they did when the coup was actually launched. Basically they were saying the gathered intelligence is used to “front-run” markets. http://econweb.umd.edu/~kaplan/coups.pdf

Here’s how their dataset was developed:
”We selected our sample of coups on the following basis: (1.) a CIA timeline of events or a secondary timeline based on an original CIA document existed,

(2.) the coup contained secret planning events including at least one covert authorization of a coup attempt by a national intelligence agency and/or head of state, and
(3.) the coup authorization was against a government which nationalized property of at least one (1) sufficiently exposed multinational firm with publicly traded shares.”
Now that Mr. Snowden has released his latest statement, the objectives of “economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation” will possibly be thwarted to some degree. Reaction from diplomatic partners is still forthcoming, as no Embassy or Ambassador has released a public statement in response to this latest Snowden revelation.

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Ratner: NSA Surveillance Program Needs to be Torn Apart from Branch to Branch


Michael Ratner: White House review panel report doesn't go far enough and potentially undercuts the more serious reform of the NSA proposed by the U.S.A. Freedom Act - December 20, 13

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Michael Ratner is President Emeritus of the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) in New York and Chair of the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights in Berlin. He is currently a legal adviser to Wikileaks and Julian Assange. He and CCR brought the first case challenging the Guantanamo detentions and continue in their efforts to close Guantanamo. He taught at Yale Law School, and Columbia Law School, and was President of the National Lawyers Guild. His current books include "Hell No: Your Right to Dissent in the Twenty-First Century America," and “ Who Killed Che? How the CIA Got Away With Murder.” NOTE: Mr. Ratner speaks on his own behalf and not for any organization with which he is affiliated.
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KAYLA RIVARA, TRNN PRODUCER: Welcome to The Real News Network. I'm Kayla Rivara in Baltimore. And welcome to another edition of The Ratner Report.Now joining us is Michael Ratner. Michael Ratner is the president emeritus of the Center for Constitutional Rights in New York. He is also a board member and regular contributor for The Real News Network. Thank you so much for joining us, Michael.MICHAEL RATNER, PRESIDENT EMERITUS, CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS: It's good to be with you, Kayla, and good to be with The Real News again.RIVARA: So there's been a lot of attention surrounding the NSA lately. Can you give us an update as to what is transpiring around Washington right now?RATNER: You know, it's been a busy week, a busy ten days. There's four things that I want to talk about, but of course the most recent one is the White House review panel has issued a report on what it thinks ought to happen to the NSA. But let's just go through four items that have happened, and then we'll get to that as well. One, we had a court decision out of the D.C. District Court, the federal court there, by a conservative judge, Judge Leon. It was a preliminary injunction, which means he didn't make a final ruling, but he made a ruling that said it's likely that the NSA mass spying on the metadata on Americans' phone calls is unconstitutional and that it violates the Fourth Amendment. Now, it doesn't take in all of what the NSA is doing. It doesn't take in what the NSA is doing when it supposedly is spying on someone overseas and taking in and raking in, you know, tens of thousands, perhaps millions of American phone calls. But it does take in the metadata on American phone companies that has caused a huge amount of controversy. And what the judge did is he said that the Fourth Amendment, the right to be free from searches and seizures, applies to the taking of metadata on our phone calls in respect to what the NSA is doing. And he ruled, basically saying, it's likely unconstitutional and I want it stopped. He held the injunction until the court is--until the Court of Appeals gets it. But it's a huge, huge victory. It again demonstrates, of course, what the NSA is doing is crazy, what the 15 dozen or so judges on the secret court is completely, you know, outside of the Constitution. And, finally, we've got a courageous conservative district judge saying that. That's one very important ruling.The second thing that came out in a couple of articles about Edward Snowden: a National Security Agency official--in fact, I think the official who may lead the agency after the current head leaves--said that they would consider talking to Edward Snowden--or that he would--about giving him amnesty. He said that's his personal opinion. And the reason he said that was not because of the good that Edward Snowden has done, but because what he fears is that Edward Snowden is holding on to hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands or at least much more, many more documents than certainly I or others know about, and that that can cause damage to the United States, and he might want to make a deal with Edward Snowden. Pretty interesting fact coming from the NSA. The Department of Justice and other officials oppose that, but who knows where that's going to come out? That's item number two.Item number three is Edward Snowden wrote a letter to the people of Brazil about what was happening to them. It was an appeal for asylum as well. But to me the core of the letter was what he said to the people of Brazil is don't kid yourself. The mass spying that is taking place in Brazil is not about stopping terrorism; it's about the United States getting economic advantage, political advantage, and in the end it's about power. And that's a very powerful statement. It's one that every person who hears about NSA spying ought to understand. This is not about terrorism. This is about the U.S. empire, U.S. power, U.S. hegemony, probably an increase in the spying as the U.S. empire is on the decline and it has a different world to compete in than it did after the Second World War or after the collapse of the Soviet Union. So that's the third point.And the fourth is one that, of course, we're dealing with this week, which is the White House review panel, some 300 pages long, gave 45 recommendations for reform of the NSA. And I want to say, as I enter it--and I'll close that discussion with this as well--is that we have to be very careful here about different organizations, different groups that suggest reform of the NSA, because in the end what we may see, unfortunately, is very superficial reform, leaving the heart of this massive spy structure in place. And I don't want to hear people say, oh, this is a great report, you know, etc., etc., because it's not that. We really have to get rid of the NSA root and branch. We have to get to its core. We have to stop what it's doing.But let's go to the report for a second. The report was released earlier than it was, for--one reason that was given in the papers was that the internet companies were complaining that having all this massive spying and backdoors in internet companies, ways of getting into Google and all of the other companies, that was causing damage to the American economy, American businesses. People didn't trust us. And therefore we have to show that we're going to reform that system. That's why they supposedly reached it early. Another reason, in my view, they may have reached it early is there's actually a piece of legislation pending in Congress called the U.S.A. Freedom Act. Now, that act is not perfect, but it's better than the report that just came out. It goes farther. So it's conceivable that this report came out as a way of undercutting what might be more serious legislation at really limiting the NSA. Let's go to the report for a second. Who made up the committee? A former CIA deputy director, a man named Cass Sunstein, whose partner, wife, Samantha Power, works for President Obama, the UN representative. Cass Sunstein did as well. The other people on the committee, you know, quite moderate to being government officials. So you don't expect much from it. People seem to be happy that it did better than they thought, or at least some people do. I, for one, am not. And the key thing that people have focused on--and we've heard gushing reports from people: oh, no more mass metadata surveillance, at least not by the NSA. What the report recommends is that metadata on all our phone calls be kept by the phone companies. So Verizon keeps it, T-Mobile keeps it, etc. They keep it. And then, when the NSA needs it, they ask for it. Well, I don't think that's anything. That's ridiculous. That's still mass surveillance of all of our phone calls. That's not a protection. It still risks civil liberties violations. It risks our privacy. No trust to it. There has to be an absolute end to mass surveillance, whether it's by private companies or by the government. I don't consider one to be significantly more honest or better--in fact, perhaps less. Who knows. But certainly neither one should be able to engage in mass surveillance. There should be no such thing as mass surveillance. Surveillance should only be done under court order with a warrant. So the people who laud this report, I think, are just in dreamland, in dreamland somewhere. The couple of other things that the report I want to bring up does: it says that world leaders before they're surveilled should have a higher level of clearance, in other words, going higher up the chain of command before the NSA decides that it'll spy on a world leader. You know, I can't even--there's no words for what that means. I mean, so it means that another bureaucrat is going to approve, you know, spying on Angela Merkel of Germany. It doesn't make any sense. A third point, though, is better, and other people, like the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who I respect, have actually lauded this part of it, saying the U.S. should not undermine efforts for encryption and should not make commercial security software vulnerable. What that means is when a company is building security software, the NSA should not require a backdoor into that security software where they can go into it. On the other hand, they also rejected, as the president has, a civilian head of the NSA. A lot of your viewers may not know the NSA has to be, by law, headed by a military person, because it's also combined with what's called Cyber Command, which is a military wing. So rather than split those two jobs, they're leaving it the same. I mean, I don't think a civilian head would make a huge difference to us, but certainly it would be better than having a military head of the NSA. So all of this positive reaction we're getting, or a lot of it, about this report is just, in my view, misguided. I think one of the best people, the best groups that have talked about it is the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which has really openly said, as I said, that mass surveillance must end. In addition--again, the EFF have said this--is even under the putting over of the mass surveillance into the private phone companies, which is nonsensical, as I said, they're still allowing the mass surveillance of my conversations overseas with all my clients, who are, I assume, all under surveillance by the government, whether it's Julian Assange or Guantanamo families or others. So altogether the report is not great.And as I said, I can't stand the gushing about it. It's important what Edward Snowden has done, that people are starting to react to it, that we're starting to get some people talking about reforms. But the worst situation here would be to have superficial reforms, and then the country goes to sleep on the mass spying that's still occurring.As I said, the NSA has to be torn apart root and branch. It basically has to be gotten rid of. We have to start over and say, what's necessary here? And what's necessary can only be necessary in terms of surveillance with a court order, a warrant that allows such surveillance under the stringent standards of our Fourth Amendment. We can't have this open and notorious mass spying. So we're moving along: a court decision, amnesty possible or at least talked about for Ed Snowden. But in terms of thinking of this review or this report as a panacea, let's not go there.RIVARA: Thank you so much for joining us, Michael Ratner.RATNER: Thank you for having me.RIVARA: And thank you for joining us on The Real News Network.End

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'Counter-punch': Federal judge rules NSA data collection legal

Published December 27, 2013FoxNews.com









A federal judge in New York has ruled the National Security Agency's massive data collection program is legal, one week after another federal judge ruled the opposite.
The conflicting rulings increase the likelihood that the challenges could someday end up before the Supreme Court.
The ruling on Friday came from District Judge William H. Pauley III, in the case of the ACLU vs. James Clapper, the director of national intelligence. The judge agreed with the federal government's request to dismiss the case.
"No doubt, the bulky telephony metadata collection program vacuums up information about virtually every telephone call to, from, or within the United States," the judge wrote.
But he added: "As the September 11th attacks demonstrate, the cost of missing such a thread can be horrific. Technology allowed Al Qaeda to operate decentralized and plot international terrorist attacks remotely. The bulky telephone metadata collection program represents the Government's counter-punch: connecting fragmented and fleeting communications to re-construct and eliminate al-Qaeda's terror network."
The decision was a victory for the Obama administration after a string of setbacks. Last week, U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon, in Washington, D.C., ruled that the NSA phone record collection program likely violates the Constitution.
The ruling was the first major legal defeat for the NSA since former contractor Edward Snowden began exposing secrets about the NSA's data collection over the summer.
Leon, unlike Pauley, questioned the program's effectiveness in helping officials conduct "time-sensitive investigations in cases involving imminent threats of terrorism."
Leon called the program "almost-Orwellian technology," and said: "Surely such a program infringes on 'that degree of privacy' that the founders enshrined in the Fourth Amendment."
A task force charged with reviewing NSA policies also recommended a series of changes earlier this month. President Obama, before leaving for vacation in Hawaii, said he would be making a statement about the future of the NSA after he returns.
After Pauley's ruling, NSA defender Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., said the decision "preserves a vital weapon for the United States in our war against international terrorism."
"I would hope that Judge Pauley's opinion will lessen at least some of the adulation for Edward Snowden as well as the rabid anti-NSA hysteria which has become so pervasive," he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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[Watch] Snowden and Greenwald on Orwellian Lack of Privacy and Future Revelations

Posted by: Rick Wells Posted date: December 25, 2013



In the words of Edward Snowden in his Christmas message to the world, “The conversation occurring today will determine the amount of trust we can place both in the technology that surrounds us and the government that regulates it.” Regardless of how one feels about Edward Snowden, the conversation we are having is solely attributable to him. Without his releases, the NSA and the government that operates it would have continued the secretive operations that he unveiled.

“A child born today will grow up with no conception of privacy at all” is a damning statement regarding the degree to which we have already been enslaved by our government masters.




Glenn Greenwald, the major conduit through which Snowden has released documents and information, feels that while it may be not time for “mission accomplished” yet, “it’s getting there.” He says “There has been a lot of disinformation disseminated about Edward Snowden which is typical whenever someone embarrasses the highest levels of the United States government. About what his motive is, he’s trying to hurt the United States. He’s a patriot, not only of the United States but of people’s rights in general, which is why when he came to us he said, ‘I’m giving you all of this information. I don’t want you to just publish it all without looking at it. I want you to very carefully vet it so that the only information that is published is information that people ought to know but never putting innocent lives at risk.”
The audio goes out briefly, but it looked like Greenwald was saying the word “democracy,” followed by another indiscernible word.
Greenwald announces that more information will be forthcoming, which means we can expect more lies to be exposed. Since the NSA doesn’t know what Snowden has, they have a very difficult time of lying to cover their tracks. They might be providing some embarrassing sound bites or possible video evidence of perjury. National Intelligence Director Clapper is evidence of their dilemma.
Edward Snowden threw an oversized monkey wrench into the big brother Constitution shredder, and it remains just out of reach.
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Rep. Peter King Is Fed up With Rand Paul: ‘He Doesn’t Deserve To be in the United States Senate’

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“Rand Paul does not know what he’s talking about. And, Rand Paul is really spreading fear among the American people."



Rep. Peter King Is Fed up With Rand Paul: ‘He Doesn’t Deserve To be in the United States Senate’
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An irate Congressman Peter King (R-N.Y.) during an interview Sunday morning said Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) “doesn’t deserve to be in the United States Senate.”

The New York congressman’s comments were in reference to the Sen. Paul’s recent threat to sue the Obama White House over the National Security Agency’s wide-ranging surveillance policies.

The NSA, according to King, is “doing exactly what it’s supposed to be doing.”

“Rand Paul does not know what he’s talking about. And, Rand Paul is really spreading fear among the American people,” King said. “To me, he’s either totally uninformed or he’s part of that hate America crowd that I thought left us in the 1960s.”

“In any event, he doesn’t deserve to be in the United States Senate for spreading that type of misperception and absolute lies to be honest with you,” he added.

For his part, Sen. Paul during an earlier Sunday show defended his lawsuit against the NSA, explaining that Americans have a right to question warrantless data collection.

“I think the idea of a class-action lawsuit with hundreds of thousands of participants really beats home and brings to the forefront the idea that this is a generalized warrant and it should be considered unconstitutional,” Paul said.
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Hey Pete King if you like your phone calls being listened to you can keep it, but I want them to stop listening to mine, it is illegal!!!!!