Thread: Something Big Happening?

Something is beginning to happen here. Last night watching C-Span, more people were calling in to support Paul then ever before. One guy from NH called in and actually said he now regretted that he voted for Huntsman. And today, my father was at the senior center and said two women came up to him and said they were now going to vote for Paul based on his N.H. speech last night. I'm hearing from other people across the country on another forum who are posting similar experiences with family and friends who were not yet sold on Dr. Paul.

Finally, people are waking up to his true conservative, limited governement/liberty message and not falling for the propaganda coming from the corporate controlled media.

After two contests the delegate count is as follows: Romney 12, Paul 10, Santorum 7, Huntsman 2, Gingrich 2, Perry 2. The number needed to win the nomination: 1144. Don't let the media fool you into believing that this race is anywhere even close to being over. There is a long way to go. That being said, there are only two candidates that have the money and the organization to compete in this marathon event: Romney and Paul. The lower tier candidates have failed to get on the ballot in key states as the race progresses beyond the early states.

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Poll: Paul Tied With Obama, Most Electable Of GOP Candidates

A new poll indicates that GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul is statistically tied with Obama in a hypothetical head to head, making him the only Republican candidate other than Mitt Romney to be in such a position.

The poll, conducted by CBS News, has Paul at 45 percent and Obama at 46 percent, with the poll’s margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 percentage points.

Out of all the other candidates, only Mitt Romney challenges Obama within the margin of error. Romney scored 47 percent to Obama’s 45 percent.

Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and Jon Huntsman are all defeated by Obama in the poll beyond or well beyond the error margin.

Obama leads Gingrich, 49 percent to 41 percent; Huntsman, 48 percent to 41 percent; Perry, 49 percent to 42 percent; and Santorum, R-Pa., 47 percent to 43 percent.

In addition, Ron Paul has a 7 point lead over over Obama among independents, with 47 percent to 40 percent, while Romney has a lesser 6 point lead among independents, 45 percent to 39 percent.

Obama wins the independent vote when pitted against all the other GOP competitors.

Ron Paul also fares marginally better than Mitt Romney against Obama where Democrat voters are concerned.
The poll once again demonstrates that Ron Paul is the most electable GOP candidate in that, unlike every other candidate, he can tap into more diverse voting groups, as well as maintaining a Republican base, and defeat Obama come the general election in November.

“We’ve called this contest a two-man race between Ron Paul and Mitt Romney, and this poll is further proof of that.” noted Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton.”

It also demonstrates Ron Paul’s support among independents, an important voting segment within which our candidate is strong,” Benton added.

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Poll: Ron Paul surges 5 points at national level

Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, can celebrate two victories Wednesday. Mr. Paul is tied with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich for 2nd place at the national level among Republicans and Independents, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday. Mr. Paul and Mr. Gingrich pulled in 17 percent of the votes each, while former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney garnered 29 percent of the votes.

The results of the Reuters/Ipsos poll were released prior to Mr. Paul’s 2nd place finish in the New Hampshire Primary. Whether Mr. Paul’s strong finish on Tuesday night will impact his standing in South Carolina or at the national level will be revealed in the coming days.

The results of the Reuters/Ipsos poll are a major victory for Mr. Paul, as the Texas congressman has jumped 5 percentage points since Ipsos Public Affairs last conducted a GOP poll between December 8th and December 12th. On the other hand, the results of the Reuters/Ipsos poll are somewhat troubling for Mr. Gingrich. The Georgia Republican’s support has dipped 8 percentage points among Republicans and Independents.

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Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk. (Apr 2011) . . .

Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen. (Apr 2011) . . .

Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007) . . .

No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007) . . .

Ron Paul on the Issues

http://www.alipac.us/threads/247442-...-Stances/page2

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

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Ron Paul on Immigration

Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk. (Apr 2011) . . .

Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen. (Apr 2011) . . .

Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007) . . .

No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007) . . .

Ron Paul on the Issues

http://www.alipac.us/threads/247442-...-Stances/page2

I think at this point we should build a list of info about Paul and Romney and the things that we can 100% they have said or written that we like Vs the things they have said or written illegal aliens would like.

W

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

RELATED

Ron Paul on Immigration

Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk. (Apr 2011) . . .

Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen. (Apr 2011) . . .

Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007) . . .

No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007) . . .

Ron Paul on the Issues

http://www.alipac.us/threads/247442-...-Stances/page2

Just please tell me the rationale of Numbers USA giving him an "F" rating when his stance is:

* Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.
* No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.
* Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.
* End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.

I just don't get that. Look, I've been an activist against illegal immigration for about 10 years now. But we've got even more immediate problems now with the near collapse of our economy and these dangerous bills like the NDA and Patriots Acts. We need someone who is going to fight to protect our liberties before we don't have a say in any thing anymore! He's the only candidate that speaks out against these things! At the moment I think that's more immediate. I want to still be able to have the right to protest against illegal immigration and the way things are going, don't be surprised if they start rounding us up before the illegals!

And Ron Paul was the only one who predicted the economic trouble we have now. Four years ago, they all called him a kook about it. I want someone whose going to anticipate these problems.

No candidate is going to satisfy us 100% but at least with Ron Paul, he has 30 years of consistency, is principled, doesn't take money from lobbyists and is HONEST. Geez... I'd take that in a heartbeat even if I don't agree with him 100%.

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

I think at this point we should build a list of info about Paul and Romney and the things that we can 100% they have said or written that we like Vs the things they have said or written illegal aliens would like.

W

That's an excellent idea William.

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

I think at this point we should build a list of info about Paul and Romney and the things that we can 100% they have said or written that we like Vs the things they have said or written illegal aliens would like.

W

From On The Issues . org

Mitt Romney on Immigration
Click here for 37 full quotes on Immigration OR other candidates on Immigration OR background on Immigration.
Alien employment cards ; not amnesty. (Nov 2011)
Vetoed in-state tuition; turn off the magnet. (Sep 2011)
Of course a border fence; of course no free tuition. (Sep 2011)
Build 2,600-mile fence with enough guards to secure it. (Sep 2011)
Turn off the magnet that attracts immigrants. (Sep 2011)
I like legal immigration; let business determine visas. (Aug 2011)
Immigration practices are upside down: more hi-tech visas. (Mar 2010)
Ardent proponent of English immersion. (Mar 2010)
GovWatch: 2005: Called comprehensive reform “reasonable”. (Feb 200
Deport illegal immigrants in 90 days under the ideal setting. (Jan 200
Found Z-visa & McCain-Kennedy bill to be offensive. (Jan 200
FactCheck: Yes, his ads DID accuse McCain of “amnesty”. (Jan 200
Illegal immigrants should go home eventually. (Dec 2007)
No mandatory prison term for employers who hire illegals. (Dec 2007)
AdWatch: Huckabee ok’ed tuition & scholarships for illegals. (Dec 2007)
FactCheck: Took hard-line on illegals, but only late in term. (Dec 2007)
Welcome the people who have been standing in line first. (Dec 2007)
Employers have no means of knowing who’s legal & who’s not. (Dec 2007)
Avoid chain migration; disallow families from one citizen. (Dec 2007)
Illegal immigrants shouldn’t get tuition break in schools. (Nov 2007)
FactCheck: Illegals employed at his home, but by contractor. (Nov 2007)
AdWatch: No driver’s license & in-state tuition for illegals. (Nov 2007)
FactCheck: MA state cops never enforced immigration laws. (Nov 2007)
FactCheck: Took no action against 4 Mass. sanctuary cities. (Nov 2007)
Reduce federal funding to sanctuary cities. (Sep 2007)
Z-visa is not technically amnesty; but is in fact amnesty. (Sep 2007)
FactCheck: NYC never declared itself a “sanctuary city”. (Sep 2007)
Make America more attractive for legal immigrants. (Aug 2007)
Priorities: secure border, employer verification, no amnesty. (Aug 2007)
Enforce the law against 12 million illegals here now. (Jun 2007)
Proposed Z visa allows illegal aliens to stay in America. (Jun 2007)
Make English national language; communicate in Spanish too. (Jun 2007)
McCain’s plan gives special pathway to those here illegally. (May 2007)
Keep rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
The 12 million illegal immigrants can’t stay forever. (Jan 2006)
Unfair to allow all illegal immigrants to stay. (Jan 2006)
Tuition breaks encourage illegal immigration. (Nov 2005)

Other Issues:
Mitt Romney on the Issues


Ron Paul on Immigration

Click here for 26 full quotes on Immigration OR other candidates on Immigration OR background on Immigration.
Incentives like benefits create illegal alien problem. (Nov 2011)
Data banks for illegal aliens keep track of us too. (Sep 2011)
Pay attention to US borders, not international borders. (Aug 2011)
Let churches provide services for immigrants, not state. (Jun 2011)
Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk. (Apr 2011)
Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen. (Apr 2011)
If economy were good, there’d be no immigration problem. (Dec 2007)
Amend Constitution to remove aliens’ birthright citizenship. (Dec 2007)
Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007)
No amnesty, but impractical to round up 12 million illegals. (Sep 2007)
Immigration problem is consequence of welfare state. (Sep 2007)
No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007)
We subsidize illegal immigration, so we get more. (Jun 2007)
Keep rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
End all incentives and amnesty for illegal immigrants. (Jan 2006)
Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 199
Sponsored bill banning student visas from terrorist nations. (Jan 2003)
Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)
Rated 83% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance. (Dec 2006)
Government services in English only. (Mar 200
Rated C by the ALI, indicating an acceptably anti-amnesty stance. (Nov 2010)
Declare English as the official language of the US. (Feb 2007)

Ron Paul on the Issues

I think that the one thing everyone needs to realize is this, you have to have a country to have an immigration policy, an economy , a school system , jobs , foreign policy etc. Get the point. Our #1 priority at this point is to save / restore our Republic and the rule of law. The Constitutional Republic of the United States of America and then we can hash out everything else.

Originally Posted by COBALT5.56

I think that the one thing everyone needs to realize is this, you have to have a country to have an immigration policy, an economy , a school system , jobs , foreign policy etc. Get the point. Our #1 priority at this point is to save / restore our Republic and the rule of law. The Constitutional Republic of the United States of America and then we can hash out everything else.

That's exactly how I feel. This has to be the priority in electing a candidate like Ron Paul. That's not saying we shouldn't continue fighting against bad immigration policies, but like you said. We need to restore our Republic and the Constitution. Time is running out! Ron Paul 2012 Official Campaign Website