Thread: Giuliani blames cop shootings on black-on-black crime

Giuliani blames cop shootings on black-on-black crime

By Joe Tacopino
November 23, 2014 | 4:02pm

Former Mayor Giuliani ignited a heated exchange on TV on Sunday after pointing to a black commentator while discussing the fatal shooting of an African American teen by a white cop in Ferguson, Mo., and saying, “The white police officers wouldn’t be there if you weren’t killing each other.”
The former two-term New York City mayor, who oversaw a large decrease in crime during his tenure, was debating the upcoming grand-jury decision on the police shooting when he made the reference to black-on-black crime.

Giuliani was emphatically gesturing toward fellow commentator Professor Michael Eric Dyson with his hand at the time.

Dyson, who is black, shot back that Giuliani’s remark was a vile “defensive mechanism of the white supremacy at work in your mind.”

The two talking heads had originally gotten in a verbal tussle when Giuliani said, “Ninety percent of blacks are killed by other blacks.”

He insisted that the Ferguson shooting was the exception to the regular violence in most cities.

But Dyson got Giuliani’s blood boiling when he challenged his thesis.

“Most black people who commit crimes against other black people go to jail,” Dyson said. “White people who are policemen and kill black people do not go to jail.”

http://nypost.com/2014/11/23/giulian...n-black-crime/

#FERGUSON: Giuliani, ‘The white police officers wouldn’t be there if you weren’t killing each other’



Posted on November 24, 2014
Rudy Giuliani provokes anger with a TV outburst over Ferguson.

Rudy Giuliani turned an MSNBC segment about racially proportionate police forces in the wake of Ferguson into a soapbox for his thoughts on black-on-black crime.
The former mayor appeared on Meet the Press on Sunday to address a debate about disproportionately white police forces in predominately black cities like Ferguson.
Giuliani must believe there is value in making police forces representative of the population, stating it was a goal not only of his administration but of all New York mayors since Ed Koch.
‘We’ve tried to make the police force of New York City as proportionate as we possibly can. We go out of our way to do that. I think we do a pretty good job, not a perfect job.’
He quickly diverted from that subject, arguing with MSNBC contributor and Georgetown professor Michael Eric Dyson about black crime.
‘I find it very disappointing that you’re not discussing the fact that 93 percent of blacks in America are killed by other blacks,’ said Giuliani.
Read more: Daily Mail

'The white police officers wouldn't be there if you weren't killing each other': Rudy Giuliani provokes anger with TV outburst over black-on-black inner city crime

• The former New York mayor was on Meet the Press to talk about racially proportionate police forces
• He proclaimed it was 'very disappointing' the conversation wasn't about blacks killing blacks
• A study from the Bureau of Justice Statistics found in 2005, 93 percent of black homicide victims were killed by another black person
• The same study found 85 percent of white murder victims died at the hands of a white person

By Pete D'amato for MailOnline

Published: 00:23 EST, 24 November 2014 | Updated: 10:56 EST, 24 November 2014

Rudy Giuliani turned an MSNBC segment about racially proportionate police forces in the wake of Ferguson into a soapbox for his thoughts on black-on-black crime.
The former mayor appeared on Meet the Press on Sunday to address a debate about disproportionately white police forces in predominately black cities like Ferguson.
Giuliani must believe there is value in making police forces representative of the population, stating it was a goal not only of his administration but of all New York mayors since Ed Koch.

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Sound off: Rudy Giuliani appeared on Meet the Press and turned a segment about racially proportionate police forces in the wake of Ferguson to say white cops wouldn't be needed 'if you weren't killing each other'

'We've tried to make the police force of New York City as proportionate as we possibly can. We go out of our way to do that. I think we do a pretty good job, not a perfect job.'
He quickly diverted from that subject, arguing with MSNBC contributor and Georgetown professor Michael Eric Dyson about black crime.
'I find it very disappointing that you're not discussing the fact that 93 percent of blacks in America are killed by other blacks,' said Giuliani.

• Ferguson woman accidentally shoots herself dead in car crash... Lawyer for Michael Brown's family slams grand jury process...

Giuliani did not mention the source used, though a study from the Bureau of Justice Statistics found in reported crimes from 2005, 93 percent of black murder victims were killed by someone black.

The study also found in the same year that 85 percent of white murder victims died at the hands of a white person.
Dyson pushed back against Giuliani, calling the link made by the mayor a 'false equivalency.'

'First of all, most black people who commit crimes against other black people go to jail,' Dyson said.

video at link below



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Back and forth: On a segment about racially proportionate police, Giuliani first stated he worked to keep a balanced force, then later argued in favor of more white cops in black neighborhoods

'Number two, they are not sworn by the police department as agents of the state to uphold the law,' he added.
Giuliani took off his glasses and cut in to argue for more police in black neighborhoods as Dyson questioned officers' ability to effectively police those communities.

'The police presence cannot make a distinction between those who are criminals and those who call the police to stop the criminals,' he stated.
The segment eventually turned into both talking over each other while Anthony Gray, attorney for Michael Brown's family, sat silent, before Giuliani capped his rant.

'Why don’t you cut it down so so many white police officers don’t have to be in black areas?' Giuliani shouted. 'The white police officers wouldn’t be there if you weren’t killing each other.'

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Certainly sounds as though they are trying to incite a riot!!! Hey "my opinion of course"!!!

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A review of the statistics, contained in a report, “Crime Enforcement Activity in New York City,” shows that minority-group members also represent 89% of murder victims — and 86% of murder suspects.

http://www.alipac.us/f9/nypd-statist...nic-mi-270837/

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