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    HEALTH CARE.....

    Today I received an email from Gov.Tim Kaine telling me to notify my friends on the issues of this new Health plan that Obama is pushing...this is what I wrote the Gov. of VA back.......I received a message from you today. I am against anything the government wants to put their hands in because what little we now have will go down the toilet....once the politicians can figure out how they can personally line their own pockets and take from the 'average Joe'. Illegal immigrants are topping 39,927,913 last count ....but with the 2 I saw today in town ready to give birth that number has increased. I, nor any of my 7 adult children want to support illegals and pay for THEIR health care. The US harbors these illegals with complete disrespect for our Constitution and you dare send me an e mail asking me to support our President's push for socialized medicine. What in Heavens Name is wrong with you politicians? ???Lets First Take Care of ....AMERICANS.......GA. Needs to reduce its deficit by sending its Illegals’ to CA , Felons-Gang Members and Drug Lords as a top priority. They will be closer to home when our government decides to enforce our Constitution TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part VIII > § 1324. Country south of Texas have given us 39,927,913 illegals and the swine flu. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 75000 Americans killed by illegal aliens since 9-11.

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    Welcome to ALIPAC kingston and very good letter............definitely has some meat in it
    "When you have knowledge,you have a responsibility to do better"_ Paula Johnson

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    Read this... Hidden in the over 1,000 pages of Obama's dictatorial health plan...


    Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS WHO SELF-INSURE!!

    Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE which decides what treatments & benefits you get.

    Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt WILL RESTRICT ENROLLMENT of Special Needs people.

    Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you.

    PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC WILL BE PROVIDED TO ALL NON-US CITIZENS, illegal or otherwise.

    Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill- ALL NON-RESIDENT ALIENS will be exempt from individual taxes. (Resident Americans will pay)

    Pg 58 HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals
    finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued.

    Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, no choice.

    Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC EXCHANGE to bring private HC plans under Govt control.

    PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs for private HC plans in the Exchange.

    PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs. for of Benefit Levels for Plans.

    Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

    pg 124 Lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Government on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly.

    pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill -DOCTORS/ AMA - The Govt will tell you what your salary will be TAX.

    Pg 145 Line 15-17 All Employers MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE

    Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

    Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll 400k & above, who does not provide public option, pays 8% tax on all payroll.

    pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

    Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to the Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

    Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances & personal records.

    PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax".


    And there's even more astonishing Marxist domination and control...


    Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill- Govt WILL REDUCE PHYSICIAN SERVICES for Medicaid Seniors, and low income people.

    Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same

    PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. (seniors)

    Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

    PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.

    PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends

    Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

    PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may include an ORDER FOR END OF LIFE plans. AN "ORDER" from the GOVERNMENT on when your life ends.

    Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

    PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.


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    Read this... Hidden in the over 1,000 pages of Obama's dictatorial health plan...


    Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS WHO SELF-INSURE!!

    Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE which decides what treatments & benefits you get.

    Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt WILL RESTRICT ENROLLMENT of Special Needs people.

    Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you.

    PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC WILL BE PROVIDED TO ALL NON-US CITIZENS, illegal or otherwise.

    Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill- ALL NON-RESIDENT ALIENS will be exempt from individual taxes. (Resident Americans will pay)

    Pg 58 HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals
    finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued.

    Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, no choice.

    Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC EXCHANGE to bring private HC plans under Govt control.

    PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs for private HC plans in the Exchange.

    PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs. for of Benefit Levels for Plans.

    Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

    pg 124 Lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Government on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly.

    pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill -DOCTORS/ AMA - The Govt will tell you what your salary will be TAX.

    Pg 145 Line 15-17 All Employers MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE

    Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

    Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll 400k & above, who does not provide public option, pays 8% tax on all payroll.

    pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

    Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to the Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

    Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances & personal records.

    PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax".


    And there's even more astonishing Marxist domination and control...


    Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill- Govt WILL REDUCE PHYSICIAN SERVICES for Medicaid Seniors, and low income people.

    Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same

    PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. (seniors)

    Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

    PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.

    PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends

    Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

    PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may include an ORDER FOR END OF LIFE plans. AN "ORDER" from the GOVERNMENT on when your life ends.

    Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

    PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.


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