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    Home: No place for Bible study County demands permit to hos



    FAITH UNDER FIRE
    Home: No place for Bible study
    County demands pastor spend thousands on 'Major Use' permit to host friends

    Posted: May 22, 2009
    5:13 pm Eastern

    By Drew Zahn
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    A San Diego pastor and his wife claim they were interrogated by a county official and warned they will face escalating fines if they continue to hold Bible studies in their home.

    The couple, whose names are being withheld until a demand letter can be filed on their behalf, told their attorney a county government employee knocked on their door on Good Friday, asking a litany of questions about their Tuesday night Bible studies, which are attended by approximately 15 people.

    "Do you have a regular weekly meeting in your home? Do you sing? Do you say 'amen'?" the official reportedly asked. "Do you say, 'Praise the Lord'?"

    The pastor's wife answered yes.

    She says she was then told, however, that she must stop holding "religious assemblies" until she and her husband obtain a Major Use Permit from the county, a permit that often involves traffic and environmental studies, compliance with parking and sidewalk regulations and costs that top tens of thousands of dollars.

    And if they fail to pay for the MUP, the county official reportedly warned, the couple will be charged escalating fines beginning at $100, then $200, $500, $1000, "and then it will get ugly."

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    Dean Broyles of the Western Center for Law & Policy, which has been retained to represent the couple, told WND the county's action not only violates religious land-use laws but also assaults both the First Amendment's freedom of assembly and freedom of religion.

    "The First Amendment, in part, reads, 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,'" Broyles said. "And that's the key part: 'prohibiting the free exercise.' We believe this is a substantial government burden on the free exercise of religion."

    He continued, "If one's home is one's castle, certainly you would the think the free exercise of religion, of all places, could occur in the home."

    Broyles confirmed the county official followed through on his threat. The pastor and his wife received a written warning ordering the couple to "cease/stop religious assembly on parcel or obtain a major use permit."

    "The Western Center for Law and Policy is troubled by this draconian move to suppress home Bible studies," said the law center in a statement. "If the current trends in our nation continue, churches may be forced underground. If that happens, believers will once again be forced to meet in homes. If homes are already closed by the government to assembly and worship, where then will Christians meet?"

    On a personal note, Broyles added, "I've been leading Bible studies in my home for 13 years in San Diego County, and I personally believe that home fellowship Bible studies are the past and future of the church. … If you look at China, the church grew from home Bible studies. I'm deeply concerned that if in the U.S. we are not able to meet in our homes and freely practice our religion, then we may be worse off than China."

    Broyles also explained to WND that oppressive governments, such as communist China or Nazi Germany, worked to repress home fellowships, labeling them the "underground church" or "subversive groups," legally compelling Christians to meet only in sanctioned, government-controlled "official" churches.

    "Therein lies my concern," Broyles said. "If people can't practice their religious beliefs in the privacy of their own homes with a few of their friends, that's an egregious First Amendment violation."

    WND contacted a spokeswoman for San Diego County, who acknowledged the description of the incident seemed "bizarre," but who was unable to locate the details of the account. She simply could not provide comment yet, she said, until she could become familiar with the case.

    Broyles said the WCLP is nearly ready to file a demand letter with the county to release the pastor and his wife from the requirement to obtain the expensive permit. If the county refuses, Broyles said, the WCLP will consider a lawsuit in federal court.

    Broyles also told WND the pastor and his wife are continuing to hold the Bible study in their home.

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    This will be interesting to follow. Next thing you know we will not be able to snore too loudly in our homes, must wash hands after touching nose and speak no ill of any government.
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    This is down right offensive. What is the problem with practicing religion in your home...even if you have other people there? I would like to know what is the problem with this? Its not 100 people or anything like that. I dont see why these people should not be able to continue to do this without a permit. We have freedom of religion in this country. It is one of the cornerstones of our culture and our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vortex
    This will be interesting to follow. Next thing you know we will not be able to snore too loudly in our homes, must wash hands after touching nose and speak no ill of any government.
    Thats right vortex. This is an invasion of the privacy of home. Look...people have parties in their private homes all the time and they need no permit. And I dont see how this is different in terms of parking and so on. And it is a small number of people.
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