Thread: Islamic Shadows over Spain

This is not a propaganda but a real danger which has already started to devour Spain. It is assumed that more than one million of illegal Muslim immigrants (in addition to legal ones) reside in Spain now.

Spain fears Al Qaeda’s dream of new Al-Andalus

(India eNews) When Islamist extremists killed 191 people in the Madrid train bombings in 2004, Spaniards felt they had had more than their share of the pain Al Qaeda could cause. Yet police fear the attack, staged by a Spanish cell inspired by the ideas of Al Qaeda, may have been only the beginning.

As Al Qaeda builds a new infrastructure in North Africa, there are increasing signs that it could reach across the Mediterranean to target Spain in an attempt to claim it as part of a historic Muslim territory.

Increased crackdowns by Spanish police on Islamist extremists could also prompt their allies to seek revenge, according to police sources.

The bombings of four Madrid commuter trains on March 11, 2004 shattered Spaniards’ sense of security in relation to Islamist terrorism, revealing how the authorities had underestimated the threat.

Spain has changed its terrorism policy since then, reallocating resources from the fight against Basque separatism to Islamist extremism.

The number of police specializing in that new, global threat has increased tenfold to about 1,500, and police coordination has been improved. More than 300 Islamist suspects have been detained since the Madrid bombings.

Spanish police are concerned about increased extremist activity in North Africa, where the Algerian-based Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) has renamed itself Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

Moroccan, Tunisian, Libyan, Mauritanian and Malian radicals are believed to be joining the new wing of Al Qaeda, which sends recruits to military training camps in Mali and other Sahel countries.

Spain is especially worried about the growth of extremism in neighbouring Morocco, where most of the Madrid train bombers originated.

Dozens of young Moroccans are constantly crossing over to Algeria to join Al Qaeda, according to Moroccan journalist Ali Lmrabet.

Radical groups in countries ranging from France to Pakistan are looking for potential attackers also in Spain, where more than 3,000 people consult Islamist websites, the daily El Pais reported.

Dozens of fighters have already been sent from Spain to the Sahel camps and to Iraq. Police fear they could return to Spain and make use of the experience they have gained when staging attacks in Iraq.

Attacks that have been carried out in Morocco and especially Algeria show that the new Al Qaeda branch is passing into action, and police see Spain and France as the European countries most likely to be targeted.

Ayman al-Zawahiri, one of Al Qaeda’s top leaders, refers to Spain as Al-Andalus, the name under which large parts of Spain were known when they were under the rule of Muslim Moors more than 500 years ago.

The Spanish secret service CNI has even detected the presence of the ‘Group for the Liberation of Al-Andalus’ on the internet.

Extremist websites are also calling for the ‘liberation’ of Ceuta and Melilla, the Spanish enclaves on Morocco’s northern coast.

‘Spain is a target for theological reasons,’ said Mathieu Guidere, expert on Islamist radicalism at Geneva University. ‘Al Qaeda is convinced that a land that was Muslim must return to the lap of Islam.’

With the verdicts of the Madrid train bombers about to fall in Spain, Al Qaeda may well feel that the time has come to take revenge for the imprisonment of the ‘heroes,’ according to police sources.

Al Qaeda could also target Spain over the presence of its troops in Afghanistan. Spain withdrew its troops from Iraq in 2004.

Yet, as Al Qaeda has metamorphosed into a loose network of cells, which often act on their own, it is impossible for police to monitor all potentially dangerous individuals, a police chief admitted to El Pais.

Police were doing what they could, but ‘in passing, we also light a candle for the Virgin Mary’ to ask for protection, he quipped.

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The ironic thing about all this is that the Spanish word RECONQUISTA originally referred to Spain's reconquest of Spain from the Muslims.

Ahorita, hacen (hacerian?) Reconquista Dos en Espana.

This is something we need to understand.

IT IS NOT the "muslims" that are bad. IT IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!

This is happening ALL OVER EUROPE. Their liberal ideals are doing this. Same thing in "OUR GOVERNMENT"! We have Bush and co. = neocons, who are just PRO-WAR LIBERALS. That is why this is happening.

The people of those countries have been bred to accept this and not speak out, because it is Politically Incorrect! Same here, to a great extent.

I mean, I am very pissed at the TENS OF MILLIIONS OF MEXICANS streaming over the border, BUT I am MUCH MORE upset at our Government for allowing this, and promoting it.

Do you think "spain" is a victim. I am SURE there are those in power who want this. How else could this happen. I mean, you ENFORCE THE LAWS.

More Poor = More dependents = bigger government = more power to the top.

You are right. Both their conservative and socialistic governments have been responsible for that. Particularly socialists.

I don't know why we do tend to vote monsters.

Originally Posted by BrightNail

This is something we need to understand.

IT IS NOT the "muslims" that are bad. IT IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!

This is happening ALL OVER EUROPE. Their liberal ideals are doing this. Same thing in "OUR GOVERNMENT"! We have Bush and co. = neocons, who are just PRO-WAR LIBERALS. That is why this is happening.

The people of those countries have been bred to accept this and not speak out, because it is Politically Incorrect! Same here, to a great extent.

I mean, I am very pissed at the TENS OF MILLIIONS OF MEXICANS streaming over the border, BUT I am MUCH MORE upset at our Government for allowing this, and promoting it.

Do you think "spain" is a victim. I am SURE there are those in power who want this. How else could this happen. I mean, you ENFORCE THE LAWS.

More Poor = More dependents = bigger government = more power to the top.

Originally Posted by BrightNail

This is something we need to understand.

IT IS NOT the "muslims" that are bad. IT IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!

Yes, islam really is the "religion of peace" isn't it BN? Let's just ignore 9-11, the Sudanese Genocide of infidels, the Darfur genocide of infidels (going on now) and Armenian Genocide. Let's just forget 9-11, the Munich Olympics, the
Achille-Lauro incident, 7-7 (in London), the Madrid Train bombings and the systematic oppression of other faiths carried out in EVERY islamic state.

You're quite the cheerleader for Islam aren't you?

Originally Posted by Lugundum

You are right. Both their conservative and socialistic governments have been responsible for that. Particularly socialists.

I don't know why we do tend to vote monsters.

I don't know why America does either. Same problem here, same causes. Both the capitalists and the socialists are screwing our respective nations. We are dealing with Third World invaders that our ancestors had conqoured. We are told that we have to accept them and their Third World ways. Moral deprivety, loss of culture, low child-birth, race to the bottum cheap labor have sacked our respective lands. The same problems exist in America and Europe, and I honestly believe we must solve them together Lugundum. Get some of your Euro friends to register here, and link us to the nationalist movements in Europe.

WESTERN WORLD UNITE!!

Get some of your Euro friends to register here, and link us to the nationalist movements in Europe.


That is something that kinda floated through my mind - not just regarding Muslims - but just globalism as a whole.

Wouldn't it be great to get united with people around the world to try to do something about this?

BearFlagRepublic & nntrixie, I'm intrigued by your proposal and we should start the cooperation if we want to succeed.

There are few problems I see:
Europe is fragmented by its many languages. This leads to many unfortunate impacts.
a) there is no central movement but rather isolated national groups handling globalization/islam/immigration issues locally and with varying intensity.
b) Those sites are in national languages preventing the cross-interaction between members
c) British people as the only English speaking nation (Ireland is too small) in the EU are unable to organize anything more than a tea at 5 for three persons.
c) many of my friends sharing my opinion simply don't understand English so they cannot join. (which is related to points a )and b)).

But however you are right I will refer to ALIPAC whenever possible as the example of people who are defending themselves.

And just another idea: what about to launch a blog in more languages with contributors from more countries? That would allow exchange of experience, spreading information beyond particular states and at the end of the day more cross - border cooperation.

A long time ago I saw a video of Nestle guy hiring illegals in California and lambasting American people. Nestle is to my knowledge a Swiss firm. It would be perfect to have quite a few hundreds Europeans writing to Nestle headquarter in the Switzerland that their mischief in the USA has been spotted and wouldn't be tolerated.

But before that I will have to improve my English significantly

Originally Posted by nntrixie

Get some of your Euro friends to register here, and link us to the nationalist movements in Europe.


That is something that kinda floated through my mind - not just regarding Muslims - but just globalism as a whole.

Wouldn't it be great to get united with people around the world to try to do something about this?

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