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    John McCain and Lindsey Graham Declare War on Rand Paul

    John McCain and Lindsey Graham Declare War on Rand Paul


    Brian Doherty|Mar. 7, 2013 12:09 pm

    The anti-Rand Pauls, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, took to the Senate floor this morning to defend killing American citizens at presidential discretion. Graham is doing so live on C-SPAN2 right now, saying that everything you do is a danger to America no matter who or where you are, as long as the U.S. government has decided you have "joined al-Queda," whatever the hell that means.

    Earlier John McCain said, as Business Insider reported:
    "Calm down, Senator," McCain said, in an admonition to Paul. "The U.S. government cannot randomly target U.S. citizens."
    McCain argued that Paul's warning that the Obama could target would U.S. citizens in "cafes" on American soil, and his related "Jane Fonda" analogy, bring the debate into the "realm of the ridiculous."
    "If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids," he said. "I don't think what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people."
    The Republican Party is at war, folks, and let's hope Rand Paul and his troops win.
    UPDATE: Sen. McCain was apparently quoting a crummy Wall Street Journal op-ed in the portion quoted above about "libertarian kids."

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    RINO Senators McCain, Graham Charge At Paul

    March 7, 2013 by Sam Rolley

    Senators John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) took to the Senate floor Thursday to denounce Senator Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) effort to ensure balance of government and respect of Constitutional rights.

    Here’s what happens when you corner a RINO:



    And Graham brought this stupid, condescending chart:



    McCain also made clear that he doesn’t care about the concerns of the thousands of Americans who have backed Paul’s position.
    “If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids,” he said. “I don’t think what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people.”
    Both Graham and McCain were at dinner with President Barack Obama at a swank Washington D.C. restaurant while Paul’s filibuster was underway last night.
    Which lawmaker do you trust the most: McCain, Graham or Paul?


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    Worthless RINO's

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    If you arent aware of it, Rand Paul had the floor for over 12 hours. Now we get alot of liberals blasting away about the GOP filibustering. If you arent watching or paying attention then follow the link to get to CSPAN2. Thankfully someone has brought up the fact that using drones to kill Americans on American soil is a bad idea. Libtrolls, if you dont think it will happen, then you better refresh your knowledge of Kent State, I am sure those students never thought they would be fired on by their own government either.

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    Americans flocking to support Sen. Rand Paul for his tireless defense of the Constitution

    Thursday, March 07, 2013 by: J. D. Heyes

    (NaturalNews) American patriots have a bright new star in Congress these days, and his name is Rand Paul.

    The junior U.S. senator from Kentucky calls himself a Republican, but he could just as easily label himself a constitutionalist, because he - like his long-serving U.S. representative father before him, the now-retired Ron Paul - won't settle for anything less than the rule of law. What's more, his no-compromise stance is not only empowering to his constituents, but it is inspiring tens of millions of Americans from all over the country who have grown more than just a little weary ofbusiness as usual in the nation's capital.

    The two most current crusades that Paul has embarked on involve the Obama administration's potential use of armed drones against American citizens on American soil, and the White House's nomination of John O. Brennan to head up the Central Intelligence Agency.

    Saying no to would-be tyrants

    First the drone issue. The day before the Senate Intelligence Committee voted March 6 to confirm Brennan's nomination, Paul told Fox News he had received two letters from Holder regarding the constitutionality of drone strikes on U.S. soil against American citizens that he said did not directly address the issue of whether such strikes could be carried out within the parameters of the nation's founding document.

    Per Fox News:

    In the letter, Holder says the U.S. has never carried out a drone strike against one of its citizens on American soil, and calls a situation where such a strike may occur "entirely hypothetical" and "unlikely to occur."

    However, Holder does not entirely rule out that such a scenario may occur in the future, and indicates that such a strike would be legal under the Constitution.

    "It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the president to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States," Holder said.

    Holder just won't say no

    In a follow-up response, Paul laid bare the administration's "frightening" claim that the president somehow believes he has authority to order such strikes against American citizens who may be associated with terrorist or other groups bent on attacking the country, but who do not pose an imminent threat to do so (that's why the founders included due process in the Constitution).

    "The U.S. Attorney General's refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening, it is an affront on the constitutional due process rights of all Americans," he said.

    Enter Brennan.

    Even the CIA nominee approves...of Holder's point of view

    During questioning by the members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Brennan would not specifically and adamantly disavow the use of armed drones in American skies targeting American citizens who are not, at the time of targeting, engaged in terrorist acts. For that, Paul vowed to filibuster Brennan's nomination for as long as he physically can (remember, many of the armed drones being used overseas to target actual terrorist enemies are CIA-owned and operated).

    "I rise today to begin to filibuster John Brennan's nomination for the CIA," Paul said as he began his filibuster around noon on March 6. "I will speak until I can no longer speak. I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our Constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court."

    Paul has said the authority the president and Holder are claiming means the government could literally send a drone-fired missile into a cafe where a suspect was having coffee, if they thought such an attack was warranted.

    And Holder, Paul says, would not specifically disavow that tactic.

    Tons of Americans lining up to support Paul

    For these stances, Paul is receiving widespread support and acclaim from tons of American citizens fed up with Obama and his thuggish governance. According to an aggregation of Tweets posted by the site Twitchy, here are just a few examples of what Paul's legions of supporters are saying about his constitutional stand:

    -- Rand Paul may be opposed to drone strikes but he is lobbing numerous truth bombs in his filibuster.

    -- Rock On! RT ?@jeremyscahill On Senate floor, Sen Rand Paul discusses Abdulrahman Awlaki, 16 yr old US citizen killed in drone strike

    -- Music to my ears from Rand Paul. "We're not a democracy and we were never intended to be a democracy." Damn straight.

    -- Rand Paul quoting Hayek on the Senate floor. I love this man.

    -- C-Span 2, America. For America. Rand Paul exposing sitting president who opposed waterboarding for what he really is...

    -- Pretty much everyone could benefit from @SenRandPaul's filibuster. It's so Constitutiony.

    Read more tweets of support here.

    Sources:

    http://www.foxnews.com

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com

    http://twitchy.com

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    GOP RINOs Attack Rand Paul's Filibuster

    By Associated Press March 7, 2013 12:25 pm

    WASHINGTON - Republicans split bitterly Thursday over a GOP senator's old-school filibuster of President Barack Obama's CIA nominee John Brennan amid claims that the administration could use drones to target Americans suspected of terrorism.

    Just hours after Sen. Rand Paul ended his nearly 13-hour talkathon - and got an endorsement from Minority Leader and fellow Kentuckian Mitch McConnell - two senior Republicans on the Armed Services Committee dismissed Paul's claims as unfounded and ridiculous.

    Both Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina also challenged members of their own party.

    "To my Republican colleagues, I don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that President Bush was going to kill anybody with a drone," Graham said in remarks on the Senate floor.



    McCain scoffed at Paul's contention that the U.S. would have targeted actress Jane Fonda during her trip to Hanoi during the Vietnam War.

    "I must say that the use of Jane Fonda's name does evoke certain memories with me, and I must say that she is not my favorite American, but I also believe that, as odious as it was, Ms. Fonda acted within her constitutional rights," said McCain, a prisoner of war in Vietnam for 5 1/2 years.

    Graham said he had planned to vote against Brennan's nomination but now plans to support the nominee because the confirmation fight has become a referendum on the drone program.



    Paul is pressing the administration for greater clarity on whether the Obama administration has the authority to use lethal force, such as a drone, against a suspected terrorist who is a U.S. citizen. Hours after the filibuster, the Republican leader said Paul deserves an answer.

    "It simply doesn't have that right, and the administration should just answer the question," McConnell said. "There is no reason we cannot get this question answered today, and we should get this question answered today. Frankly, it should have been answered a long time ago."

    The Obama administration has said it has not conducted such operations inside U.S. borders, nor does it intend to. Paul and backers said that wasn't good enough. They wanted the White House to rule out the possibility of them happening altogether.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said the Senate would vote to end the filibuster Saturday morning unless lawmakers can reach an agreement to vote earlier.

    Paul's performance, which centered on questions about the possible use of drones against targets in the United States, clearly energized a number of his GOP colleagues, who came to the floor in a show of support and to share in the speaking duties. And even as the night progressed, Paul appeared invigorated despite being on his feet for so long. Actual talking filibusters have become rare in the Senate, where the rules are typically used in procedural ways to block the other party's agenda.

    After Paul yielded the floor, Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., filed a motion to cut off debate on Brennan's nomination, setting up a vote for later this week.

    Paul, a critic of Obama's drone policy, started just before noon Wednesday by demanding the president or Attorney General Eric Holder issue a statement assuring that the aircraft would not be used in the United States to kill terrorism suspects who are U.S. citizens. But by the time he left the Senate floor, Paul said he'd received no response.

    Paul wasn't picky about the format, saying at one point he'd be happy with a telegram or a Tweet. Paul said he recognized he can't stop Brennan from being confirmed. But the nomination was the right vehicle for a debate over what the Obama White House believes are the limits of the federal government's ability to conduct lethal operations against suspected terrorists, he said.
    "No president has the right to say he is judge, jury and executioner," Paul said.

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee used Paul's stand to raise money for GOP candidates and said Thursday that they received donations "in the high five figures as of last tally."
    About a dozen of Paul's colleagues who share his conservative views came to the floor to take turns speaking for him and trading questions. McConnell congratulated Paul for his "tenacity and for his conviction," and he called Brennan a "controversial nominee."

    Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, read Twitter messages from people eager to "Stand With Rand." The Twitterverse, said Cruz, is "blowing up." And as the night went on, Cruz spoke for longer periods as Paul leaned against a desk across the floor. Cruz, an insurgent Republican with strong tea party backing, read passages from Shakespeare's "Henry V" and lines from the 1970 movie "Patton," starring George C. Scott.

    Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., made references to rappers Jay-Z and Wiz Khalifa. Rubio, a possible GOP presidential candidate in 2016, chided the White House for failing to respond to Paul. "It's not a Republican question. It's not a conservative question," Rubio said. "It's a constitutional question."

    The tea party-backed Paul first stepped onto the national stage in 2010 when he vanquished McConnell's chosen Senate candidate in a GOP primary in Kentucky. Since then, he's reveled in the popularity he has with the tea party and inherited his father's libertarian-leaning political network, built over two failed Ron Paul presidential runs. All that has stoked belief inside GOP circles that he may be positioning himself for a future national campaign, possibly as early as 2016.

    Along with Cruz, Rubio and McConnell, other Republicans who joined Paul on the floor included Sens. Mike Lee of Utah, Jerry Moran of Kansas, John Barrasso of Wyoming, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Tim Scott of South Carolina, John Thune of South Dakota and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., also made an appearance. Wyden has long pressed for greater oversight of the use of drones.

    Holder came close to making the statement Paul wanted earlier Wednesday during an exchange with Cruz at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, according to Paul.

    Cruz asked Holder if the Constitution allowed the federal government to kill on U.S. soil a U.S. citizen who doesn't pose an imminent threat. Holder said the situation was hypothetical, but he did not think that in that situation the use of a drone or lethal force would be appropriate. Cruz criticized Holder for not simply saying "no" in response.

    In a letter sent Tuesday to Paul, Brennan said the CIA does not have authority to conduct lethal operations inside the U.S.

    Holder told Paul in a March 4 letter that the federal government has not conducted such operations and has no intention of doing so. But Holder also wrote that he supposed it was possible under an "extraordinary circumstance" that the president would have no choice but to authorize the military to use lethal force inside U.S. borders. Holder cited the attacks at Pearl Harbor and on Sept. 11, 2001, as examples.

    Paul said he did not dispute that the president has the authority to take swift and lethal action against an enemy who carried out a significant attack against the United States. But Paul said he was "alarmed" at how difficult it has been to get the administration to clearly define what qualifies as a legitimate target of a drone strike.

    The record for the longest individual speech on the Senate floor belongs to former Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

    If confirmed, Brennan would replace Michael Morell, the CIA's deputy director who has been acting director since David Petraeus resigned in November after acknowledging an affair with his biographer.

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    Associated Press writer Jim Kuhnhenn contributed to this report.

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    The resistance is finally beginning:

    Stand Strong: Rand Paul Filibusters Against Domestic Tyranny

    After years of waiting for principled leadership, we're finally seeing it with Rand Paul. Don't give up. Stand strong. We're going to win this.
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    Stand Strong: Rand Paul Filibusters Against Domestic Tyranny

    Rand Paul
    inspired the world yesterday when he single-handedly got the entire world to talk about due process, civil liberties, the [COLOR=#BF0000 !important]constitution, and the old principles of a limited government. It really was beautiful.

    People from both parties supported him. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, a Democrat, and others helped him keep the filibuster going strong. People around the world Tweeted their support on Twitter, eventually making “#StandWithRand” trend worldwide, meaning a huge portion of the world’s population stood with Rand last night.

    Some people were confused, because they’re so caught up in partisan politics they don’t seem to understand that when you’re fighting tyranny, it doesn’t matter what your party is — you’re right. It doesn’t matter if it’s the tyranny of a man named “Bush” or “Obama”. Rand repeatedly said he would have given the same filibuster even if Bush had tried to claim the power to kill citizens without trial.


    In the end, it was a heroic day, and inspirational one for people who are looking for a comeback for American liberty, and our hats go off to Rand. We don’t agree with him on everything, but on this, we’re eternally thankful for his stand.

    You can read the first hour of his filibuster here. Browse around Rand’s Senate site, and you can see a transcript of the other hours of his speeches as well — they’re still typing them up.

    To close, here’s a short clip from one of my favorite movies — Mr Smith Goes to Washington. It’s about a young man who goes to the senate, finds out how corrupt it is, and he stands and he fights and he goes on a talking filibuster until the whole world finally woke up and paid attention.

    It’s a beautiful story:



    Mr Smith Goes to Washington-"Lost Causes" - YouTube

    Rand Paul went to Washington… and he won.

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