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    Judge to rule on man's attempt to kick Obama off ballot.

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    Judge to rule on local man's attempt to kick Obama off ballots
    By Justin McClelland

    Staff Writer

    Thursday, October 30, 2008

    LEBANON — A Warren County judge will decide whether Sen. Barack Obama's name can appear on Ohio election ballots after listening this morning, Thursday, Oct. 30, to a Turtlecreek Twp. man who claims that the Democratic presidential candidate is not a U.S. citizen and cannot be elected president.

    David Neal appeared in Warren County Common Pleas Court after filing a lawsuit on Friday. Neal wants a court order to remove Obama's name from ballots to be used in the general election on Tuesday, Nov. 4.

    Neal claims Obama was not born in the United States and cannot be president because the U.S. Constitution allows only native-born citizens to be elected to that post.

    "We're facing a constitutional crisis," Neal said this morning in court. "Until we get to the bottom of this, there's going to be disenfranchisement."

    Neal, who described himself as a retired "jack of all trades," said after the hearing that he filed the lawsuit himself and is not working with or for the Republican Party in the lawsuit.

    Appearing before Magistrate W. Andrew Hasselbach, Neal said he had researched questions about Obama's birthplace since 2006 and made several requests to the Hawaiian bureau of statistics, Democratic National Party and Ohio Democratic Party for a birth certificate that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii.

    "Wouldn't you think a doctor or nurse would have stepped up and said I was in the room when he was born?" Neal said.

    In his lawsuit and during the hearing, Neal cited numerous Web sites as sources of information to challenge Obama's birthplace. Neal added that he had to produce birth certificates to sign his children up for youth football.

    In a brief filed today disputing Neal's claim, the Ohio Attorney General's office said that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has "no legal authority to perform" the removal of Obama's name from ballots.

    "... the allegations in the Complaint are nothing but speculation and inadmissible hearsay. There is no evidence in the Record that Senator Obama was born in Kenya, or that he somehow lost his United States citizenship during his time in Indonesia. Mr. Neal's allegations are anything but 'clear or free from reasonable doubt' ," the attorney general's brief stated.

    Mike Schuler and Steven McGann, representatives from the Ohio Attorney General's office, also appeared this morning in Warren County Common Pleas Court, filed the state's brief and said nothing during the hearing.

    Hasselbach asked Neal why he had waited until 11 days before the election to file his claim. Neal said that he had hoped other cases in Philadelphia and Washington, D.C. would clear up questions about Obama's citizenship, and when they did not, he decided to take action.

    The judge said he would issue a decision on Neal's request for an injunction by noon on Friday, Oct. 31

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    Yeah, and we pretty much know how the judge will rule. Unfortunately for most of us, Senator Obama appears to be above the law. How dare any one question his close associations and relationships, his admitted hard drug use, his eligibility to serve as POTUS, his religious background, his wife's un-American attitude and statements, his refusal to say the Pledge, his somewhat shady campaign doners, ACORN, "spread the wealth", ....Oh, and Senator Obama, is it 250,000, 200,000 or as your running mate said, 150,000? Just how low will you go? Sorry. I forgot. I'm not allowed to ask.

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    Sure makes you wonder. I still think if this guy gets elected we're all in for a big surprise.....and not a good one Beware the two faces of eve!

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    This is the biggest scam ever run on the American voters basically the DNC wanted the world to know the Constitution does not matter.
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    Notice how our judicial system works harder to protect criminals and liars than american citizens!
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    Quote Originally Posted by florgal
    Yeah, and we pretty much know how the judge will rule. Unfortunately for most of us, Senator Obama appears to be above the law. How dare any one question his close associations and relationships, his admitted hard drug use, his eligibility to serve as POTUS, his religious background, his wife's un-American attitude and statements, his refusal to say the Pledge, his somewhat shady campaign doners, ACORN, "spread the wealth", ....Oh, and Senator Obama, is it 250,000, 200,000 or as your running mate said, 150,000? Just how low will you go? Sorry. I forgot. I'm not allowed to ask.
    And Let us not forget his removal of the US Flag from him Plane while campaigning
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    LEBANON, Ohio (AP) - A southwest Ohio magistrate has rejected a challenge to Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship.

    Friday's ruling from Warren County Magistrate Andrew Hasselbach came a day after a hearing on a lawsuit filed by Middletown resident David Neal.

    Neal argued that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner should confirm Obama's birthplace or remove him from the ballot. Brunner's office said Neal's case was based on rumor.

    The Democratic presidential candidate was born in Hawaii, two years after it became a state. But theories abound that Obama's birth certificate is fake and he was born abroad.

    Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

    Nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org says the birth certificate has all the signs of a genuine document.
    http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/co ... cs&sid=101

    TOTAL BS THIS GUY IS TOTALLY ABOVE THE LAW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93camaro
    LEBANON, Ohio (AP) - A southwest Ohio magistrate has rejected a challenge to Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship.

    Friday's ruling from Warren County Magistrate Andrew Hasselbach came a day after a hearing on a lawsuit filed by Middletown resident David Neal.

    Neal argued that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner should confirm Obama's birthplace or remove him from the ballot. Brunner's office said Neal's case was based on rumor.

    The Democratic presidential candidate was born in Hawaii, two years after it became a state. But theories abound that Obama's birth certificate is fake and he was born abroad.

    Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

    Nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org says the birth certificate has all the signs of a genuine document.
    http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/co ... cs&sid=101

    TOTAL BS THIS GUY IS TOTALLY ABOVE THE LAW!
    Did you expect anything different? No judge wants to be the guy to cause NObama problems. The only chance is to find a judge that is retiring and even then it may not happen.
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    I wouldnt doubt it if Obama paid off the judges.
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