Thread: Justices eye suit on Obama citizenship

Justices eye suit on Obama citizenship

December 4, 2008

CHICAGO – The U.S. Supreme Court will consider tomorrow whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by many opponents of Obama's election.

The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.

Legal experts say the appeal holds little chance for success, despite appearing on the court's Dec. 5 schedule. The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an authentic birth certificate, and is a “natural-bornâ€

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Hawaiian officials agree, reporting that Obama's original birth certificate is locked in a state vault.
Chicago Tribune

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib ... nation.htm

Trust us.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=79174

Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor
Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document
Posted: October 26, 2008
9:54 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

HONOLULU, Hawaii – Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation – and even several lawsuits – WND has learned that Hawaii's Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate's birth certificate under seal and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances.

The governor's office officially declined a request made in writing by WND in Hawaii to obtain a copy of the hospital-generated original birth certificate of Barack Obama.

"It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information.

Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant.

WND was told the official reason for denial of access to Obama's birth certificate would be authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, a provision the anonymous source claimed was designed to prevent identity theft.

Still, the source told WND confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama.

The source also refused to answer WND's question whether the original document on file with the Department of Health was a hospital-generated birth certificate or a registration of birth that may have been filed subsequent to the birth.

The anonymous source made clear the Hawaii Department of Health would immediately release Obama's original birth certificate, provided Obama requested the document be released, but the Department of Heath has received no such request from the senator or from anyone acting officially on his behalf.

WND also found on microfilm in the Honolulu downtown public library a notice published under the "Births, Marriages, Deaths" section of the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser for August 13, 1961, on page B-6, noting: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack II Obama. 6085 Kalanianaole-Hwy, son, Aug. 4."

In searching through the birth notices of the Honolulu Advertiser for 1961, WND found many birth notices were published between one and two weeks after the date of birth listed.

The notice in the Honolulu Advertiser does not list the hospital where the Obama son was born or the doctor who delivered the baby.

In a startling development, Obama's Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama's birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

Friday, U.S. Federal judge Richard Barclay Surrick, a Clinton appointee, dismissed a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania attorney Phillip J. Berg who alleged Obama was not a U.S. "natural born" citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency under the specifications of the U.S. Constitution, under Article II, Section 1.

Berg told WND last week he does not have a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama that he alleges exists.

In Kenya, WND was told by government authorities that all documents concerning Obama were under seal until after the U.S. presidential election on November 4.

The Obama campaign website entitled "Fight the Smears" posts a state of Hawaii "Certificate of Live Birth" which is obviously not the original birth certificate generated by the hospital where Obama reportedly was born.

"Fight the Smears" declares, "The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America."

Although the Obama campaign could immediately put an end to all the challenges by simply producing the candidate's original birth certificate, it has not done so. And the "Fight the Smears" website offers no explanation as to why Obama has refused to request, and make public, an original hospital-generated birth certificate which the Hawaii Department of Health may possess.

Legal experts say the appeal holds little chance for success

How do they Figure? If they just look at Obama's actions alone you can tell he is hiding something!

Legal experts say the appeal holds little chance for success, despite appearing on the court's Dec. 5 schedule.

Why not? If there is even a small DOUBT shouldnt Obama have to prove he is a natural born citizen? I think the courts should ORDER Obama to prove it.

IF you or I were in this situation, WE would have to show our birth certificate and prove we were born in the U.S. I don't know what makes him think he's any better than the rest of us.

Originally Posted by florgal

IF you or I were in this situation, WE would have to show our birth certificate and prove we were born in the U.S. I don't know what makes him think he's any better than the rest of us.

He has already shown it to the federal election officials and they said that it proves he is a citizen. He is under no obligation to anything else.

Originally Posted by 93camaro

Legal experts say the appeal holds little chance for success

How do they Figure? If they just look at Obama's actions alone you can tell he is hiding something!

Obama is the point man picked by the CFR and the Trilateral Commission to head up the final phase of the dismantlization of the United States and to usher in the north American union. They ARE NOT about to disqualify him. But if they did, riots big time would ensue and martial law would go in effect..leading us to the end of our Constitution and then the new world order will follow..NAU, NWO, all the same thing. The bankers have already stolen 8.8 trillion dollars and the last pickings are for the rest of the banks and corporations..after that, a depression so bad that all of us will welcome the Amero as a solution that the Obama administration will end up proposing to us and implementing whether we like it or not.

Obama, for the globalists is a win win situation. His disqualification is almost moot.

Originally Posted by Rockfish

Originally Posted by 93camaro

Legal experts say the appeal holds little chance for success

How do they Figure? If they just look at Obama's actions alone you can tell he is hiding something!

Obama is the point man picked by the CFR and the Trilateral Commission to head up the final phase of the dismantlization of the United States and to usher in the north American union. They ARE NOT about to disqualify him. But if they did, riots big time would ensue and martial law would go in effect..leading us to the end of our Constitution and then the new world order will follow..NAU, NWO, all the same thing. The bankers have already stolen 8.8 trillion dollars and the last pickings are for the rest of the banks and corporations..after that, a depression so bad that all of us will welcome the Amero as a solution that the Obama administration will end up proposing to us and implementing whether we like it or not.

Obama, for the globalists is a win win situation. His disqualification is almost moot.

All is lost then, what do I fight for if it is already laid out and imminent?

I don't know, 93camero, to be honest. The way things are going are totally against our sovereignty, our economy, our culture, our representation, our way of life. Those who are in power and are extremely rich want absoulte power. They have no alligence and answer to no one. They remind me of those who dwell in the mountain..(LOTR) But all kidding aside, stockpile food and amo and save any money you can, it may help you near the end. Keep up the fight because I may not be right. I wish I could be more optimistic, but what is there to point at?

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by florgal

IF you or I were in this situation, WE would have to show our birth certificate and prove we were born in the U.S. I don't know what makes him think he's any better than the rest of us.

He has already shown it to the federal election officials and they said that it proves he is a citizen. He is under no obligation to anything else.

My understanding is that he or someone from his campaign provided, via a far left website, a document stating he had been born. NOT unquestionable proof that he was born in Hawaii. Oh, and did I mention that a documents expert claims even that was a fake?

I don't KNOW all the facts. What I do know is that if he had any balls he would put this to rest once and for all. Provide the actual document, if it exists, the long version, the real thing. Answer to the facts that HAVE BEEN PRESENTED as to his Indonesian citizenship during the time he attended school there, did he regain his U.S. citizenship after that, and just HOW was he able to travel to parts of the Middle East during a time which Americans were not allowed to do so. What's so hard about that? He needs to provide real answers, real proof to the people on this matter.