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Legal Fight Over Obama's Citizenship Boils

From Joel Skousen
Editor - World Affairs Brief
Commentary and Insights on a Troubled World
10-24-8

I'm putting the economic issues in second position this week to cover an important and ongoing election story with tremendous legal consequences to the issue of presidential qualifications. The election's most under-reported story, among many, is the story of Obama's origins in Kenya and the evidence indicating that Obama's subsequent birth certificate from Hawaii was falsified to give him citizen status. There are two court cases pending on the issue, and it seems obvious now that the courts are dragging their feet to evade a ruling until the election is over. The State of Hawaii appeared to be complicit in the forgery when it happened and is now equally reluctant to come forth and certify the bogus copy of a birth certificate. The US government Election Commission has also failed to do its due diligence in certifying Obama's citizenship and right to be a US President. Don't expect this important legal technicality to stop the Obama steamroller. There exists a major conspiracy of silence.

The notoriously liberal debunking website www.snopes.com dismisses the legal challenges to Obama's citizenship as typical of many "unsuccessful challenges" common to US elections. That's a bit premature to label a current case as "unsuccessful," especially when they don't have the courtesy to air any of the powerful evidence submitted in this legal challenge nor comment on its veracity. This is typical of debunking sites that are propaganda arms of the establishment. They never attempt to answer the tough questions, only the easy straw man arguments.

Dockets.justia.com gives us a summary of the issues in the case: "A Mr. Philip Berg [a Clinton Democrat] presented a case before Federal District Court (Philadelphia), last summer, to have Obama, DNC and Federal Elections Commission show evidence, in the face of Berg's powerful evidence to the contrary, that Obama is a "Natural Born Citizen." The defendants moved to dismiss, but the judge denied the motion (9/29) and seemed to think Berg's documented evidence, that Obama was born in Kenya and then naturalized into Indonesia, was powerful enough to order defendants to produce verified documentation to support Obama's "Natural Born" claim and status. The judge ordered defendants to produce a birth certificate verified by Hawaii, which seems to be a problem, as well as other documents. On 10/6/2008, defendants filed for protection until they can argue it out. They filed for relief in DC and several levels of government agencies.

"On 10/7/2008, a Psychiatrist Dr. Bradley filed a motion to intervene on Berg's behalf. The "friend of the Court" [amicus brief] asked to be placed in the records as 'Jane Doe,' citing professional and family reasons. She presented documentation from Obama's grandmother, stepbrother and stepsister that Obama was born in Kenyaand, after birth, was rushed to Hawaii to fraudulently file for birth certification. She further documented that Obama's Indonesian step sister was also rushed to Hawaii for US certification after her birth.

"Further, Bradley produced documentation that Obama had Indonesian citizenship under the name of Barry Soetoro. He also had an Indonesian passport up to and beyond age 18. After moving in with his Grandmother in Hawaii he did not 'naturalize,' as would be required. Bradley's motion is that Obama is actually an illegal alien. 10/9/2008: In response to defendants' request for evasion and continued secrecy, Berg filed a summary motion for a speedy trial date ... against BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (his post Pakistan trip name), a/k/a BARRY SOETORO (his Indonesian name), a/k/a, BARRY OBAMA (his American nickname), a/k/a, and BARACK DUNHAM (another formerly used name)."

Obama has claimed at various times to have been born at either Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii. Public records do not show any record of his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to anyone in either place. There is no record of Obama being a naturalized US. Citizen. Thus, the court must rule by default judgment that Obama was born in the Coast Province Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, as per evidence present by Mr. Berg and that he is not a US citizen.

But, the court is stalling. According to the Philidelphia Daily News, "Mike Finney, deputy clerk to Judge Surrick, says that their office has gotten a blizzard of phone calls about the suit. 'Within the past week the calls have instensified,' Finney told us. 'People from all across the country have been calling.' He said we should expect a ruling soon. We'll see. I suspect the judge will either grant a further delay to produce evidence or will find some other technical excuse to stall. Default of a court order is an open and shut cause for affirming the case. The judge is obviously consulting with the PTB on how to get out of this predicament without declaring Obama's candidacy illegal. This is further evidence that the judicial branch of the US is compromised and the Constitution is dead whenever it gets in the way of the establishment agenda.

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One fact that I find rather ironic, if Obama was trying to get a job guarding the president, he would be unable to pass the security clearance.

I'm confused.......they keep talking about documentation which proves the case against Obama.

What documentation? And, has it been provided to the judge presiding over this case?

If it was.....and I know he already ordered Obama to present proof...why is he even entertaining motions to dismiss and whatever else?

Some people are asking for the hospital certificate (the one with the footprint) but many families don't save that because it's not an official document and can't be used to prove anything.

Some people complain about the lack of information on the Obama certificate. But I have my mother's birth certificate before me (Harrisburg, Dauphin County, PA), and it also doesn't list a hospital or even an address of the parents. Her's doesn't even list race.

Some people complain about apparent technological discrepancies. But my mother's birth certificate, with an official raised seal, is an official document that was acceptable to establish her citizenship. It was issued back in 1960 and was produced using the technology of 1960, not that of 1928 when she was born. That's because it is an official copy from a master record, certified to be a true copy by the issuing authority.

Medical records are not kept forever, and are private (especially in these days of HIPAA). Before the advent of digital storage, the norm for keeping paper medical records in most places was 7-10 years. Now, a longer retention is being recommended.

The only way to tell if Obama's birth certificate has a raised seal is to feel it. A raised seal may or may not show up in a photocopy or scan. There are people outside of Obama's organization who claim to have handled the certificate and are claiming that it does so have a raised seal. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

Another claim I sometimes hear is that there is a difference between a 'birth certificate' and a 'certificate of live birth.' No there isn't. People may be confusing the record from the department of vital statistics with the more impressive looking, yet unofficial, hospital issued certificate.

If Obama really was born in the US, then the court cannot magically rule otherwise and change the facts of his life. Obama has filed a response: a request for dismissal of the suit. So has the FEC. The judge hasn't ruled on anybody's filings yet.

She presented documentation from Obama's grandmother, stepbrother and stepsister that Obama was born in Kenyaand, after birth, was rushed to Hawaii to fraudulently file for birth certification. She further documented that Obama's Indonesian step sister was also rushed to Hawaii for US certification after her birth

By not answering the "Request for Admissions" in 30 days, Obama declared, by default, that the accusations are true. So from a legal standpoint, Obama is not a citizen, because he didn't present the proof in a timely manner.

Maybe Obama, himself, was unaware of what happened with his birth. Wouldn't that be a kick in the head??

Another important piece of evidence is the birth announcement that was published in the paper. I am old enough to remember when this was a commmon practice, but the information on the announcement was not provided by the parents directly. You had your baby, took him home, and the announcement appeared without the family having to do anything. You can see that in the entire birth announcement - it is published as "Heath Bureau Statistics" and is not limited to Obama's birth but lists other births as well.