Thread: Milwaukee police to release video showing arrest of NBA's Sterling Brown

Originally Posted by Judy

Right, we'll have to rely on the cops for that. But they're going to be trusted on it, because he resisted producing his driver's license and resisted taking his hands out of his pockets because he "had things" in his hands in his pockets. Cops aren't going to wait around messing with someone who has "things" he's holding in his hands hiding in his pockets, could be a grenade "thing", a knife "thing", a gun "thing", a personal "taser" thing, a bomb controller "thing", it could be any number of dangerous "things". A group of cops aren't going to wait to find out, you're going down and laying still so they can cuff your butt and examine the "things" in your pockets you don't want them to see and arrest you for illegal parking, driving without a license, refusal to present the license, etc., etc., etc.

No other Mayor would be apologizing for this arrest, and the only reason the Milwaukee Mayor is apologizing is because it was an athlete. Wrong move, Mayor. You defended a guy that your voters think got what he deserved for stealing handicapped parking spaces and his color had nothing to do with it.

The cops are not always to be trusted as I gave an example in the video I posted. Furthermore, there is no law, that I am aware of, that says I have to keep my hands out of my pockets. At the very most you can charge the guy with disorderly conduct if he doesn't follow an order to keep his hands outside. Or you could have patted him down and cuffed him during a "field interview".
No other mayor would apologize is because the average citizen doesn't have the means to challenge mistreatment in the courts or they are ignorant of the methods to get injustice corrected. It doesn't mean that injustice doesn't happen on a wider scale.

I can't believe that someone would just believe the cops without confirmation.
A group beat Rodney King. Many more injustices are happening, too.

Animal

Notice this man claimed he was in fear of his life...
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...437933363.html

There is a mental disease that many are suffering from

Originally Posted by Boomslang

I don't like when able bodied individuals park in handicap spaces, either!
But I am a law and order stickler, and the law says that the penalty for such a crime is $500 Class C Misdemeanor. If he blocked three spaces the fine triples.
End of story on the punishment. No tasers, no dogs, no guns. Just three tickets and a court date(s). Even if he did it on purpose.

In some states you do not have to show you license. In my state, if you don't show your license (ID yourself), you can be charged with a Class B Misdemeanor: up to $1000 fine and a maximum of 6 months in county jail.

Who do they write the ticket to if he hasn't produced a license or ID? How do they track the court appearance if they write a ticket to an anonymous person? He didn't identify himself, he didn't produce his license, he wouldn't take his hands out of his pocket. If he doesn't have a license or wasn't willing to show it, they can't let him drive the car, they would have to tow it. How do they let someone go in a vehicle without a license who refused to take his hands out of pockets because he "has things in his hands" in his pocket?

On this one, all the mistakes were made by Sterling Brown. And what's worse, he's exploiting the victims of real police brutality to try to defend himself. It won't work for him. From this point forward, he'll always be that guy who stole handicapped parking spaces, refused to produce his driver's license, refused to show his hands which were in his pockets holding "things", and then in the absolute worst sports PR mishap of all time, tried to make himself into a victim by hiding behind the tragedies of other people.

DISGUSTING!!

Originally Posted by Boomslang

The cops are not always to be trusted as I gave an example in the video I posted. Furthermore, there is no law, that I am aware of, that says I have to keep my hands out of my pockets. At the very most you can charge the guy with disorderly conduct if he doesn't follow an order to keep his hands outside. Or you could have patted him down and cuffed him during a "field interview".
No other mayor would apologize is because the average citizen doesn't have the means to challenge mistreatment in the courts or they are ignorant of the methods to get injustice corrected. It doesn't mean that injustice doesn't happen on a wider scale.

I know you can't always trust the police, in fact I would say you can only rarely trust them when things go bad, because of the "thin blue line". But this time it's on tape. It's just however you view it. I view it, the mistakes were made here by Sterling Brown. He should have apologized for abusing the handicapped parking spaces, explained why he refused the most basic of normal required behavior with police who caught him violating parking laws, and never have pretended to be a victim to defend his own bad acts by exploiting victims of real police brutality.

There is a lot of injustice in the world, we know that, but what happened to Sterling Brown by his own hands, literally, is not one of them.

In my opinion.

Originally Posted by Judy

Who do they write the ticket to if he hasn't produced a license or ID? How do they track the court appearance if they write a ticket to an anonymous person? He didn't identify himself, he didn't produce his license, he wouldn't take his hands out of his pocket. If he doesn't have a license or wasn't willing to show it, they can't let him drive the car, they would have to tow it. How do they let someone go in a vehicle without a license who refused to take his hands out of pockets because he "has things in his hands" in his pocket?

On this one, all the mistakes were made by Sterling Brown. And what's worse, he's exploiting the victims of real police brutality to try to defend himself. It won't work for him. From this point forward, he'll always be that guy who stole handicapped parking spaces, refused to produce his driver's license, refused to show his hands which were in his pockets holding "things", and then in the absolute worst sports <acronym title="Google Page Ranking"><acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym></acronym> mishap of all time, tried to make himself into a victim by hiding behind the tragedies of other people.

DISGUSTING!!

In my state it is a crime not to ID yourself, so you will be arrested anyway: http://penalcode.austintexascriminal...com/38.02.html
Vehicle will be towed and the whole 9.

If he refused to take his hands out after being given a lawful order in an official investigation:

§ 542.501. OBEDIENCE[0] REQUIRED TO POLICE OFFICERS AND TO
SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS. A person may not wilfully fail or refuse
to comply with a lawful order or direction of:
(1) a police officer; or
(2) a school crossing guard who:
(A) is performing crossing guard duties in a
school crosswalk to stop and yield to a pedestrian; or
(B) has been trained under Section 600.004 and is
directing traffic in a school crossing zone.

I never stated that the basketball player didn't do anything wrong and I did tell you that I can only speak for my state. But generally, the investigaton needed to be done to see if the cops used lawful force over 3 $500 tickets for parking. PARKING!!!!!

Originally Posted by Judy

I know you can't always trust the police, in fact I would say you can only rarely trust them when things go bad, because of the "thin blue line". But this time it's on tape. It's just however you view it. I view it, the mistakes were made here by Sterling Brown. He should have apologized for abusing the handicapped parking spaces, explained why he refused the most basic of normal required behavior with police who caught him violating parking laws, and never have pretended to be a victim to defend his own bad acts by exploiting victims of real police brutality.

There is a lot of injustice in the world, we know that, but what happened to Sterling Brown by his own hands, literally, is not one of them.

In my opinion.

It all depends on the state as to if you have to show ID. In New York, I don't have to show the police nothing. I don't have to tell you my name. If you are going to arrest me, you are going to do that anyway.
All I'm saying is that this big mess would have been avoided if Mr. Brown had given his ID to the cops, and the cops could have wrote him a ticket and both would have been on their way. Brown could afford $500 easy, being a rookie professional player. Tasers were not needed unless Wisconsin law gave the police that option.
I know cops. Sometimes they want to "get into it" with young black men.
Nothing makes a cop angrier than an confident, rich, young black man. Fact!

I have no problem at all with an investigation of the use of the taser and agree there should be one.

Originally Posted by Boomslang

It all depends on the state as to if you have to show ID. In New York, I don't have to show the police nothing. I don't have to tell you my name. If you are going to arrest me, you are going to do that anyway.
All I'm saying is that this big mess would have been avoided if Mr. Brown had given his ID to the cops, and the cops could have wrote him a ticket and both would have been on their way. Brown could afford $500 easy, being a rookie professional player. Tasers were not needed unless Wisconsin law gave the police that option.
I know cops. Sometimes they want to "get into it" with young black men.
Nothing makes a cop angrier than an confident, rich, young black man. Fact!

Why didn't he show his license to the cops so they could process the parking violation? He wanted to hide who he was, because he didn't want the bad publicity of being one of those despised people who steal handicapped parking space.