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    The Cat Is Out Of the Bag...

    Ron Paul Is a Top Tier Candidate!
    USA Daily Staff
    Published 08/31/2007 - 12:25 p.m. EDT

    The media monopolies seem to be only fooling themselves; the cat is out of the bag, Ron Paul is a top tier candidate. Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul is a force to be reckoned with within the GOP.

    According to the last quarter filings he has more money in the bank than John McCain and sources tell USA Daily that Paul’s next quarter numbers will surpass expectations. Fund raising ability is as much an indicator of a campaign’s popularity as are poll numbers. Whether you agree with Paul or not on the issues, his campaign is serious and has national support despite media censorship.

    Paul’s campaign is a coalition of Libertarians, Traditional Conservatives, Constitutionalists, Independents, Anti-war voters, and those opposed to establishing what they perceive as a global tyranny via an unelected world government or precursors like the North American Union. It is even attracting some traditional Liberals opposed to the Iraq war that like his support for the Constitution. Â*

    Whether this translates into a majority of voters or not remains to be seen but Paul has demonstrated fund raising ability, organization, and the ability to build a coalition. His volunteers go beyond just the internet. Home made signs and other forms of promotion are popping up all across America in support of Ron Paul. Often with a creativity that reflects the wide range of the type of supporters he attracts.

    Paul has bold positions including opposition to income taxes, the Patriot Act, the Iraq war, and the Federal Reserve. His call to abolish the Federal Reserve may play well with voters as the mortgage crises deepens if he can frame the issue to point to the soft money policies of the Federal Reserve as the contributing factor to the crises. Â*
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    While FCC laws exempt debates from the equal time requirement, the modern notion of fairness in a free society would suggest that broadcast networks provide candidates with equal time during the debates.
    The 2008 campaign is different from previous elections. In the past third party candidates have been censored from debates but candidates involved in the actual major party debates were usually given a fairer distribution of time. Major media attempts at manipulating this election are more blatant than in the past.

    It remains to be seen whether the upcoming Fox News Republican debate will break that trend. With many states moving their primaries up there are likely to be many more debates in various states that are now more involved with the election process which may help media non preferred candidates get the message out.

    Paul’s campaign will likely win his home state, delegate rich Texas, one of the many states up for grabs on February 5th.Â* That prospect will likely keep his campaign viable until the Texas primary even if he doesn’t win any of the early primary elections.

    Chances are the February 5th election will not have a decisive winner in all 23 states up for grabs.

    Tancredo’s campaign is also likely to remain viable until February 5th when his home state of Colorado and other western states are up for grabs where his signature issue of immigration reform will play well as will Paul’s message.

    Giuliani’s home state of New York and other states in the north east will also be decided that day. As will Fred Thompson’s home state of Tennessee and Mike Huckabee’s home state of Arkansas.

    The unpredictability of having so many states that in the past voted in the primary only when the nominee was already a forgone conclusion, now having a real input and influence over the election, may make this presidential contest a free for all.

    There are demographics and regional influences that never really had a chance to participate in the presidential primary election that may turn out to be the king makers. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*

    A look at the primary calendar, competing ideologies, and regional factors, point to a slight chance that the GOP nominee will be decided at the convention.

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    Tell that to Reader's Digest . Just got this today:

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    Subject: [ Reader's Digest poll leaves Ron Paul out of the choices

    Reader's Digest poll leaves Ron Paul out of the choices
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    Would it be smart for all of us to combine our choices...half of us are for Tom Tancredo and the other half are for Ron paul...If we continue that way, they won't have as strong a showing ...can we get together and combine our power behind one? and then that one will be awesome and the media can't ignore that....
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    Readers Digest:

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    Any questions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    Would it be smart for all of us to combine our choices...half of us are for Tom Tancredo and the other half are for Ron paul...If we continue that way, they won't have as strong a showing ...can we get together and combine our power behind one? and then that one will be awesome and the media can't ignore that....
    I posted the same question some time ago.
    I also sid that Tom Tancredo I think is a great patriot and a great person , but in states like Florida, California and others with a lot of hispanic people , his openlly talking about 3rd world states, and immigration, legal and illegal, would be a problem. I myself thnk that he is such a good person that his candidacy was launched to open the discussion about this criminal invasion, the media had to start talking about .
    As I said also, Duncan Hunter is also a great candidate but he is for the war so I don't think he can get much support when most Americans want to bring our troops home, including me.
    Ron Paul for me is the one, the prove is all over the country people are waiking up and supporting him, even with the media boycot.
    I also think we cannot go to the primaries divided. If we cannot get into an agreement ourselves how can we expect to get some real American as President ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie
    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    Would it be smart for all of us to combine our choices...half of us are for Tom Tancredo and the other half are for Ron paul...If we continue that way, they won't have as strong a showing ...can we get together and combine our power behind one? and then that one will be awesome and the media can't ignore that....
    I posted the same question some time ago.
    I also sid that Tom Tancredo I think is a great patriot and a great person , but in states like Florida, California and others with a lot of hispanic people , his openlly talking about 3rd world states, and immigration, legal and illegal, would be a problem. I myself thnk that he is such a good person that his candidacy was launched to open the discussion about this criminal invasion, the media had to start talking about .
    As I said also, Duncan Hunter is also a great candidate but he is for the war so I don't think he can get much support when most Americans want to bring our troops home, including me.
    Ron Paul for me is the one, the prove is all over the country people are waiking up and supporting him, even with the media boycot.
    I also think we cannot go to the primaries divided. If we cannot get into an agreement ourselves how can we expect to get some real American as President ?
    Then again, Hunter just won the Texas Straw Poll.....

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    41.1% Duncan Hunter (534 votes)
    20.5% Fred Thompson (266 votes)
    16.17% Ron Paul (217 votes)
    6.4% Mike Huckabee (83 votes)
    6% Rudy Giuliani (78 votes)
    4.7% Mitt Romney (61 votes)
    .46% Sam Brownback (6 votes)
    .62% John McCain (8 votes)
    .46% Tom Tancredo (6 votes)
    2.2% Ray McKinney (28 votes)
    .23% Hugh Cort (3 votes)
    .77% John Cox (10 votes)


    A few points:

    1. From what I've read on different Ron Paul blogs, it was reported that 50 Paul delegates were blocked from voting because their bus was late by 2 minutes!

    2. Only previous delegates were allowed to vote. Not regular supporters.

    Here are some posts from dailypaul.com to put things in perspective:

    Here is the problem with Dr. Ron Paul having a good showing in his OWN STATE OF TEXAS. The only people who can vote in the Texas Straw Poll are people who have been delegates in the past! IN other words, I, a Texas Republican cannnot go to Fort Worth on Sept 1 and vote for Dr. Ron Paul in my own state.

    Doesnt everyone see a problem with this?? The straw poll will be attended by hard-core Neo-Con Republicans from past primaries and people who are just now jumping on the political bandwagon for Ron Paul have no opportunity what-so-ever to be involved in the Texas Straw Poll .

    http://dailypaul.com/node/1350


    The Texas Republican Party set up its straw poll to hurt Ron Paul. That's why the voters were restricted to past delegates and alternates from Texas Republican conventions, that is neocons and party hacks for the most part. Ron Paul was supposed to get zero. Instead, he got more than 16%.

    The Republican Party of Texas has been controlled by the Bushes since 1980.


    In Iowa, Huckabee was the surprise with second. However, that didn't persist in other polls. Even Romney's lead hasn't persisted throughout the nation. This is Duncan Hunter's only first place ranking. However, Ron Paul is consistently in the "top tier" like none of the others.

    Ron Paul winning in overall results of 11 Straw Polls since Iowa


    % Votes
    Ron Paul, 24.9% 782
    Mitt Romney, 16.0% 583
    Fred Thompson, 18.9% 483
    Rudy Giuliani, 8.1% 247
    Sam Brownback, 4.4% 169
    Mike Huckabey, 5.3% 131
    John McCain, 3.0% 111
    Duncan Hunter, 14.1% 34
    Tommy Tancredo, 0.5% 16
    Other, 4.2% 22

    Total of 2578 votes cast in 11 straw polls

    Polls included:
    Texas GOP 1-Sep-07
    Allegheny County (Pittsburgh, PA) 26-Aug-07
    Dekalb County, GA 24-Aug-07
    Ronald Reagan Club (Washington) 21-Aug-07
    Strafford County, NH 18-Aug-07
    West Alabama 18-Aug-07
    West Lafayette, Indiana 18-Aug-07
    Illinois State Fair 17-Aug-07
    Students for Life of America 16-Aug-07
    Western Montana Fair 15-Aug-07
    Gaston County, NC 14-Aug-07


    http://dailypaul.com/node/1766

    It has been discussed that the reason Hunter won in TX was because of his pro-war stance. (I doubt it was due to illegal immigration since the delegates are neo-cons) Also, it's been discussed that the TX GOP can't stand Paul and wanted him to look bad in his own state. So since Hunter was the only one other than Paul to show up, they placed all their votes with him.

    Paul has tremendous support and as long as the donations keep on coming, he should be ok. I don't believe Hunter has that kind of support. What do you guys think? Aren't these straw polls all about gaining votes in order to raise more money?

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    I've said Duncan Hunter is a good guy and will make a good president, the only problem is to win the presidency he needs to unite Independents, some Democrats and Conservatives, I don't think with his stand on the war we can get this support, because the majority wants to withdraw the troops from Iraq. I think enough of our kids loosing their lives and being mutilated for Senor bos ..a greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    Would it be smart for all of us to combine our choices...half of us are for Tom Tancredo and the other half are for Ron paul...If we continue that way, they won't have as strong a showing ...can we get together and combine our power behind one? and then that one will be awesome and the media can't ignore that....
    I don't think it is time yet. They would make an awesome ticket together though wouldn't they!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    Would it be smart for all of us to combine our choices...half of us are for Tom Tancredo and the other half are for Ron paul...If we continue that way, they won't have as strong a showing ...can we get together and combine our power behind one? and then that one will be awesome and the media can't ignore that....
    Personally I like Tom Tancredo because he talks about immigration almost every day. On the other hand it seems Ron Paul has a lot of general support on other issues also, so he would probably be the best one to unite behind.

    I am not making any commitments yet, but I do urge everyone no matter how much you might hate the Republican Party right now, to register Republican so you can vote in the primary for Paul, Tancredo, or Hunter. After the primary you can change your registration.
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