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    Quote Originally Posted by Hylander_1314
    As reguarding the 13th 14th and 15th Ammendments, you may want to see this: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... h&rclk=pti

    The 14th Ammendment was one of the worst pieces pf legislation due to radical republicans like Thaddeus Stevens. He was a big backer of this ammendment, which in essense disovles state's rights. And it along with the 13th Ammendment gave for the first time congressional authority where none had existed prior, and with the backing of the Supreme Court, it has flourished. Not saying that the 13th Ammendment was wrong, as it is right. Slavery in a nation who's ideology is individual liberty, is just flat out wrong. There should not have been any need for either the 14th or 15th Ammendments, as with slavery being abolished, those who were held in bondage should have been afforded the same principals of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness as outlined in the Declaration. Without congressional interference.

    Concerning the equal rights issue for women, Nicholas Rockefeller gave Aaron Russo an interesting reason behind it, which takes something that should be noble, and corrupts its pretense.

    Start listenning for that part at about 42 minutes into it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msfxiodoMQQ

    With fighting the Fed Res Act, there was concern and disdain on both sides of the fence on that one. One who was very vocal was Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. But there were many against it, even the likes of Henry Cabot Lodge. But how the Act was passed was very underhandedly done. There were 3 senators holding down the fort for the Christmas Holiday and congress hadn't adjourned "sine die", like they should have done, so the skids were greased as the 3 remaining senators were pro-banking senators, and it passed on a unanimous voice vote.

    And all the warnings of the people who spoke out against it, have come to pass, or will in the future. Even Andrew Jackson warned against it after he killed the 2nd Bank of the United States which operated like the Fed Res does.

    So all I say is be careful. The best way to find out if a candidate is for us the people or not, is to see if they belong to or are affiliated with the Council on Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission, or the Bilderberg / G20 organizations. Just finding that out will tell volumes.

    Just knowing that will tell you who's side the person is on.
    Yes, that's true. There should have been no need even for a 13th Amendment because in my view our Constitution already secure the blessings of liberty for everyone in our country. But some states didn't understand that so thus we had a war and the 13th Amendment was passed for those who didn't understand the US Constitution. Then, the radical Republicans thought all was well, UNTIL not long after, the assassination of Lincoln and the swearing in of the Democrat, Andrew Johnson, who immediately established black codes and canceled slavery reparations.

    The Republicans upon learning about black codes through their Governors in the South, then passed the 14th and 15th Amendments to end black codes and passed their second 1875 US Civil Rights Act to secure the liberty and equality of all Americans, which was unfortunately over-turned in 1883 by the US Supreme Court because it was argued under the 14th Amendment instead of the Commerce Clause as it should have been and as later US Civil Rights Act were.

    The work of the Republicans has been a long and enduring process of horrific chess games with the Democrats who wanted slavery and second class citizenship, who even in the defeat of war found despicable ways to try to continue to have it in one form or another.

    Their support for illegal immigration, slave workers, and their generational welfare and HUD Slave Cabins, for trapped and enslaved voters, and their Free Trade Globalist-Socialist endeavors, are just another modern manifestation of that agenda.

    It's time to expose it, root it out and dispense with it once and for all in our little free nation of free people.
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    With Andrew Johnson as his vice president, was how things were done back then. It gave balance to the presidency. Your opponent would become the vice president. Which to me is a actually better than we have today, as it is completely polarised now.

    You may wish to look up a book that I have, on the War Between the States. It had very little to do with slavery as our government sponsered uneducation teaches us. It was mostly about state's rights. That was where some of the biggest debates during the Reconstruction were oriented. That is why there were many who wanted the 14th Ammendment passed, so it would get rid of those pesky state's rights and the individual freeman's rights and place the entire population under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government thereby creating an entire nation of 2nd class citizens. So instead of a nation of truely free people, we have a nation of people who were freed from one form of bondage, but the remainder were lumped in with them to create another form of bondage of the entire population to the DC Plantation.

    Here's the book I have of the era:

    http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Ci ... 0812931143

    It is a good read, and very informative. Yes that is George Armstrong Custer on the cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hylander_1314
    With Andrew Johnson as his vice president, was how things were done back then. It gave balance to the presidency. Your opponent would become the vice president. Which to me is a actually better than we have today, as it is completely polarised now.

    You may wish to look up a book that I have, on the War Between the States. It had very little to do with slavery as our government sponsered uneducation teaches us. It was mostly about state's rights. That was where some of the biggest debates during the Reconstruction were oriented. That is why there were many who wanted the 14th Ammendment passed, so it would get rid of those pesky state's rights and the individual freeman's rights and place the entire population under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government thereby creating an entire nation of 2nd class citizens. So instead of a nation of truely free people, we have a nation of people who were freed from one form of bondage, but the remainder were lumped in with them to create another form of bondage of the entire population to the DC Plantation.

    Here's the book I have of the era:

    http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Ci ... 0812931143

    It is a good read, and very informative. Yes that is George Armstrong Custer on the cover.
    Andrew Johnson was not an opponent of Lincoln. Andrew Johnson, a Democrat, was Lincoln's Vice President running mate by his choice, on the National Union Party Ticket in 1864. The Radical Republicans and the some of the rest of the Republicans were having a dispute because the Radicals were insisting upon the passage of the 13th Amendment. The Radicals ultimately prevailed as we know. God Bless Them for that, too, because without the 13th Amendment I do believe the proponents of slavery would have us all in chains by now.



    Someone should make a movie about the Radical Republicans. Next to our founding fathers, they were some of the most important heroes of our country yet few even know their names.

    The only problem I have with the 14th Amendment is that our stupid Executive Branch doesn't understand that it doesn't apply to children of aliens for automatic birthright citizenship, because they aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, they're citizens of another nation,the nation of citizenship of their parents. Other than that, there's no problem that I see with the 14th Amendment. But there's no question at all that the granting of automatic birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens by the Executive Branch needs to cease and desist.
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