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    Natural immunity AND the Covid vaccine may be the best course of action

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    A CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated


    JUL 30 2021



    • About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.
    • The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.



    So, 74% of the fully vaccinated getting covid seems to indicate the “vaccine” is not very effective. Not only that, but it seems that mother nature has a way of providing better protection to those who do get infected!


    See Previous COVID-19 may cut risk of reinfection 84%


    Apr 12, 2021


    ”People who had COVID-19 had an 84% lower risk of becoming reinfected and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection during 7 months of follow-up, according to findings from a large, multicenter study published late last week in The Lancet.”


    The article goes on to point out "the findings of the authors suggest that infection and the development of an antibody response provides protection similar to or even better than currently used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.”


    From the mountain of material I have read over the past two years, I am beginning to think the vaccine is probably a useful tool for those at high risk of seriously complications should they get covid, and that allowing nature to take its course with those at low risk of serious complications from covid, i.e., letting their body create a natural immunity to covid, may very well be the proper course of action, at least, the evidence seems to suggest this.



    One thing for certain, NYC's one size fits all __ No Vax, No Service __ is not only absurd, but destructive to the general welfare of the community.


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    More news about natural immunity from covid

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    Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

    July 13, 2021

    Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.


    "Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination."

    Also see: Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then Vaccine Immunity

    8/5/2021

    “Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at John Hopkins School of Medicine, during an appearance on The Vince Coglianese Show, said individuals formerly infected with COVID-19 are seven times more likely then vaccinated people to fight off the virus.”

    “It appears that natural immunity is better against the Delta variant. When you get infected with COVID, your body’s immune system develops antibodies to the entire surface of the virus,” Makary said. “Not just the slight protein that the vaccines gives you, but the entire surface. And so you get a more diverse antibody portfolio in your system.”


    JWK



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    covid vaccine may risk one's natural immunity to covid

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    As it turns out, the vaccine may actually interfere with one's natural immunity!

    See: Vaccination could jeopardize our natural immunity to COVID-19, virologist cautions

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    There is something very suspicious taking place in the United States regarding covid

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    What is very, very suspicious, at least to me is, while the overall survival rate to covid is about 98%, and we know who the most vulnerable to the virus are and we can treat and protect them, why has our mainstream media been so intent on ignoring these factors and instead, generating mass hysteria and suggesting 24/7, “get the vaccine or die”?


    It seems to me from the very beginning of the covid outbreak there has been a concerted effort by our mainstream media to encourage a course of action destructive, in many ways, to the general welfare of the United States rather than advocating a common sense approach avoiding a total undermining of America’s way of life.


    What I’m seeing, in the big picture is, our mainstream media is constantly promoting actions destructive to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens [i.e., immigration policy; monetary policy; foreign policy; etc.] and its current handling of the Covid outbreak is just one more opportunity to help weaken and destroy America and subjugate the American people.


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    We need to bankrupt the mainstream media, social media, and big corporate PIGS by boycotting their sports, their news outlets, their websites, and their products the best we can.

    We can fight back buy not spending our $$$$$$$ on them! That is our power.

    Amazon should be boycotted 100%. One man is filthy rich while destroying our Malls, local jobs, and too much power.

    And dump the big banks too!
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    Covid cases on the rise in Florida

    See: COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations on the rise in Florida …

    "MIAMI (AP) – Hospital admissions for coronavirus patients continue to rise in Florida, with at least two areas of the state surpassing previous peaks in the summer 2020 rebound, prompting local authorities to urge the governor to declare an emergency."


    Of course cases are on the rise . . . the vaccine is not preventing the fully vaccinated from still getting covid, and in large numbers.

    Breakthrough cases count for a large number of the rise in cases, e.g., in Massachusetts we find “More than 3,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts tested positive for the coronavirus last week, a daily average of nearly 450 people in the Bay State as breakthrough infections keep rising amid the delta variant.” LINK



    Now, let us talk about the benefits of “natural immunity”, one benefit is ”People who had COVID-19 had an 84% lower risk of becoming reinfected and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection during 7 months of follow-up, according to findings from a large, multicenter study published late last week in The Lancet.”


    The article goes on to point out "the findings of the authors suggest that infection and the development of an antibody response provides protection similar to or even better than currently used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.” See Previous COVID-19 may cut risk of reinfection 84%



    Is it not common sense that those least likely to have complications from covid, if allowed to beat the virus on their own, would be a giant step forward in creating “herd immunity”?



    Unfortunately, we are now finding that the covid vaccine may risk one’s natural immunity to covid. See: Vaccination could jeopardize our natural immunity to COVID-19, virologist cautions

    Those shouting "get the vaccine or die" need to be confronted and made to support their outlandish claim.



    JWK



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