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    New Study Looks at Challenges Faced by Germany's Muslims

    Please note that this study was done by a George Soros funded organization.

    01/26/2010

    'We Are Not Really Germans'

    New Study Looks at Challenges Faced by Germany's Muslims

    By Sheila Lalwani in Berlin


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    Many women in Germany who wear the headscarf say they experience barriers to employment, according to a new survey published by the Open Society Institute.


    It's no secret that many immigrants have a hard time in Germany. A new study has found that women wearing headscarves have a particularly hard time on the job market and a quarter of those with Turkish backgrounds face discrimination when looking for work.

    It is early afternoon at Internet Treffpunkt, a convenience store in Kreuzberg, a neighborhood in Berlin that is home to many Turks and other minorities. Hedi Dashti, the store's proprietor, is busy. One customer hands over her parcel to send through his DHL counter. Another customer buys cigarettes. The door swings open, ushering in the blustery winter wind, and a third customer waves hello.


    Dashti -- an immigrant from Iraq who fled to Germany 20 years ago with his family -- speaks to customers in English, German and his mother tongue, Kurdish. He has adjusted to life in Germany and made German friends, while also maintaining his religious identity: Dashti is a practicing Muslim, abstains from eating pork and observes Friday prayers.

    And despite occasionally feeling like an outsider, he really wishes he had German citizenship. ''We are not really Germans, but Germany is our country,'' Dashti said.

    It is a dilemma shared by many of Germany's approximately four million Muslims. And a new survey supports the widespread feeling of dislocation that many of them feel.

    Far from Encouraging

    Released in Berlin on Monday, the Open Society Institute's report entitled "Muslims in Europe: A Report on 11 EU Cities" paints a familiar picture of stunted integration among the some 15 to 20 million Muslims living in the European Union. The number is expected to double by 2025. Two German cities, Berlin and Hamburg, are among the cities the report focused on.

    It's findings are far from encouraging. The report says that unemployment is twice the national average for Turkish nationals in Germany, and that 28 percent of Turks reported discrimination when looking for work. Twenty-three percent said they encountered it at work.

    In particular, "things are getting worse for veiled women" in Germany, according to one survey respondent, referring to the headscarf, which is widely prevalent in Germany. The report points out that women wearing headscarves are vulnerable to discrimination on the job. Wearing religious symbols such as the headscarf is banned in certain German government jobs, but women said the attitude has spilled over into the private sector. Some women in the study also said wearing headscarves prevented them from participating in all areas of work, or from securing apprenticeships or internships at all.

    The report also focused on education, and again found Germany wanting. Survey respondents reported a culture of low aspirations and discouragement by schoolteachers grounded in assumptions and stereotypes about students based on their religious or cultural backgrounds. The report cited improving access to education, particularly at a young age, as critical with German language knowledge prior to entering school seen as a key.

    A Favored Destination

    ''Unless you get that right, you are going to have problems,'' Nazia Hussain, director of the project, told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

    The study's findings correspond with a number of similar surveys undertaken in Germany and Europe in recent years. A Jan. 2009 study conducted by the Berlin-based Institute for Population and Development found that Turkish immigrants in particular are faring badly, with many struggling to integrate even if they come from families which arrived in Germany generations ago. A 2009 study by the Bertelsmann Foundation found that failed integration was costing Germany up to €16 billion per year.

    Much of the problem is rooted in a German society that has yet to come to grips with having become a favored destination for immigrants. While the Open Society Report points out that citizenship in adopted nations is essential to building social cohesion, many immigrants in Germany do not have German passports. Indeed, even children of immigrant families born in Germany are not automatically granted citizenship.

    As a result, immigrants in Germany -- even those who have achieved citizenship -- often feel excluded, the study found.

    Such attitudes are not surprising, says Dr. Ruth Mandel, whose 2008 book, "Cosmopolitan Anxieties: Turkish Challenges to Citizenship and Belonging in Germany," largely focuses on Turks in Berlin. Even if German laws allow immigrant children born in Germany to apply for citizenship, German society as a whole may not consider them German. ''It will take the German masses quite a while to accept it,'' Mandel says

    Still, Dashti says from behind his counter, things could be worse. ''Germany -- as the Kurdish people say -- is safe from war. It is in Europe. Every immigrant thinks Europe and America is great.''

    But then again, things could be so much better.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/spi ... 40,00.html

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    "Muslims in Europe: A Report on 11 EU Cities"
    http://www.soros.org/initiatives/home/a ... e-20091215
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    Actually, the Germans did this to themselves as I remember from the 1970s in Hamburg. They started loving the gast arbeiters (guest workers) who would do the jobs Germans wouldn't. Turks, Slavs, Palestinians, Morroccans, Jordanians, Egyptians came pouring in to clean public bathrooms, etc. Then they had children, that never learned to speak the language of the homelands -- and I remember there was a lot of talk about not sending these people home because Germany was the only country they had ever known.
    Sounds kinda familiar, doesn't it?
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    Good for Germany! They are keeping their heritage and not losing it like we are.

    I especially like this law below.

    "children of immigrant families born in Germany are not automatically granted citizenship. "
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    It's not only happening in Germany, but France, Holland and Switzerland are beginning to stand up against the infliction of Islamic ideals in those countries that are calculated to eradicate those nations' own cultural traditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkM
    It's not only happening in Germany, but France, Holland and Switzerland are beginning to stand up against the infliction of Islamic ideals in those countries that are calculated to eradicate those nations' own cultural traditions.
    In other words those countries have seen what happens and the fools running America are still in the politically correct mode.......... Our country is being ruined by Liberals.
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